Mix Master
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Speaking of Shane black I dont see the love IM3 gets, the movie is all over the place and is barely better than IM2. Both are "Fun" but that about the only positives I can give them. And Gwyneth remains the First Lady of the MCU
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They are both important. You just can't use good characters in bad stories, for a good character to be actually good story can't be braindead, that's all I'm asking for.
Unlike BvS, I'm not. You just like what you like, there's lot to love if you're willing to look hard enough. Emphasis on willing. Ha.
One of the most important things in Lord of the Rings are the characters. It's not all about Frodo after all. You still have Sam, Gimli and Legolas, Gollum, Saruman etc.
The Hobbit fails to make the dwarfs memorable
BronsonLee
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Frodo is a little bitch and Sam should've chucked him into that Tekken Volcano
Stopped at the first line, couldn't be further from the truth.
Discotheque
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Lotr is a better ensemble series than any mcu film or justice league will be. Believe that
The Hobbit is more on their level but I found the first two more enjoyable than the avengers movies honestly.
And nah salsa you literally just said nice guys is ONLY about the characters. I don't get what youre saying at all with that. Shane Black says hes inspired by a lot of crime novels. Many of which are very much plot-oriented page turners. Just because he has very likeable characters given plenty of time on screen with doesn't mean they're all of a sudden character studies or some shit. Nice guys and kiss kiss bang bang are your standard murder mysteries.
The Hobbit is more on their level but I found the first two more enjoyable than the avengers movies honestly.
And nah salsa you literally just said nice guys is ONLY about the characters. I don't get what youre saying at all with that. Shane Black says hes inspired by a lot of crime novels. Many of which are very much plot-oriented page turners. Just because he has very likeable characters given plenty of time on screen with doesn't mean they're all of a sudden character studies or some shit. Nice guys and kiss kiss bang bang are your standard murder mysteries.
Obliterator
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Well LOTR has writing at a level no comic film can even dream of touching so it's kinda hard comparison to make
Shane Black got to direct Iron Man 3 cause the MCU school of film was completely taking his ideas since day 1
each time people go see one of those film and cum in their pants when Bucky / Falcon gives a slight "we are great friends" eye to Cap or that approving face when he kisses a lady Shane Black should get a dollar
each time people go see one of those film and cum in their pants when Bucky / Falcon gives a slight "we are great friends" eye to Cap or that approving face when he kisses a lady Shane Black should get a dollar
Mix Master
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Fast and Furious Questions your resolve Disco. (Barring the boringness of Furious 7)
The Driver
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It's 3 hours+ tho and the plot is bare as fuck so you can line the skeleton with lots of awesome character moments and lore building.
Extended cut of Fellowship is a perfect fantasy adventure film.
The other 2 are garbage.
BronsonLee
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More like he was persona non grata until RDJ used his 'I own you' button on Disney
Disco hates family brah
Why don't they just get those writers?
The Hermit
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but BvS was a sequel of an already terrible movie that tried to link 3 different stories at once (Dark Knight, Doomsday and the birth of Justice League)
It had NO right to work.
SS was a cool idea that had no expectation at first and gained momentum to crash and burn. I still have to see it, but apparently the movie ends up like another dark, emo crap like Man of Steel.
old manatee
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Nah they should have Thelma and Louised it into the Tekken Volcano.
That's not the main criticism at all, if anything it seems to be too shallow, the jokes are in there, but it flies dangerously close to cartoon levels.
ElBoxyBrown
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I'd argue other directors have been doing what Black does just with a different style.
not like anyone is gonna dispute that but it's beside the point. the similarities lie within caring about the characters and the relationship between em enough to give a fuck about stakes. that's a huge part of why these movies succeed
it's not like Shane Black invented that sort of "buddy cop" movie but Marvel always got real close to 80s Black with its approach
thing is, it's the way to go. Shane Black sure took a lot from comics too
it all works out
Discotheque
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No way. Salut la familia. One quarter mile at a time etc.
The Driver
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I'm pretty sure it was Jackson, his wife and another who did both trilogies? Seems like they only write the shit they are gonna direct. Besides we saw how the hobbit turned out lol.
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Obliterator
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I mean they could but LOTR also has the huge benefit of its source material being legit incredible and written by a Linguist Professor. As much as I love comics, they aren't anywhere near Tolkien.
There is great stuff to be inspired by in the comics, they need talent, good talent.
Mix Master
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We usually wait for Thor Expert Toa Tak to tell us how great thor is and how fine Kat dennings is.
I think at this point more people have asked if we've talked about Thor 2 than we have actually talked about Thor 2
BronsonLee
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The stupid part about the whole thing is that the most quotable movie in the whole franchise is the first one
BULLSHIT ASSHOLE
NOBODY LIKES THE TUNA HERE
Maybe that's why he spends all his time on GAF.
You bastardo
Pandora012
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That was like 40 pages ago.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Maybe that's why he spends all his time on GAF.
Don't we all?
Speaking of Dark Worlds, we should talk about THOR!
But honestly, I very much agreed with the sentiment given earlier that Marvel movies are mostly just inoffensive boring movies made to watched once, because on the second run they're so fucking boring. Except for Guardians of the Galaxy and Iron Man, which both finer writing to them. On the DC end, it's either animation, Tim Burton, or Nolan's first two Batman's, the rest is so far kind of underwhelming too. But points for Batman and Robin for trying though. For a bad movie, it sure is quotable.
ElBoxyBrown
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What we need is new leadership from WB.
AlfredX1990
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Fuck it, let me derail the conversation about IM3 and let's go straight to Thor 2 is the best movie ever
Please no.
Shane Black did one movie and it was so tonally different than the rest of the MCU movies that it was his last. The character treatment in MCU movies is nothing like Shane Black's movies.
P. S. I liked IM3 and made a thread about it last year.
Mix Master
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Hey guys remember how forgettable Thor 2 was? movie deserves a -100 RT score!
well i'd argue that's just factually wrong but im gonna go ahead and say "opinions" cause I feel like I already had this conversation just now and the examples are too obvious to point out
i'll say this: Iron Man 3 is easily his most different movie, so that's to your point
Absofuckinglutely.
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Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
This thread, like the movie Suicide Squad, is a disaster.
Some observations:
- The Ultimate Edition of Batman V. Superman remains the superior movie, though I'd-Rather-Die-Than-Watch-This Squad tried it's best.
- Marvel won. Civil War remains the best live action film of 2016, with triple the rottentomato percentage of Kill-Me-Now Squad.
- The Nolan Batman trilogy is garbage. Affleck is a better Batman than Bale could ever HOPE to be.
- Chris Evans is coming for that Oscar.
Some observations:
- The Ultimate Edition of Batman V. Superman remains the superior movie, though I'd-Rather-Die-Than-Watch-This Squad tried it's best.
- Marvel won. Civil War remains the best live action film of 2016, with triple the rottentomato percentage of Kill-Me-Now Squad.
- The Nolan Batman trilogy is garbage. Affleck is a better Batman than Bale could ever HOPE to be.
- Chris Evans is coming for that Oscar.
Mix Master
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Scarjo is baby momma material in TWS, but the film does fall apart in the final act.
Avengers is the best Superhero movie of all time IMO, but TDK is the best general film based on a comic property.
broncobuster
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Saw that Alan Taylor's Terminator Genisys is on Amazon Instant. Between Thor 2 and Jai Courtney talk, is it at all worth watching?
George Oscar Bluth II
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I love the engaging cinematic masterpiece that is Thor Two: The Darkest World!
Lifejumper
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Bruh.. I think you need a break from the internet.This thread, like the movie Suicide Squad, is a disaster.
Some observations:
- The Ultimate Edition of Batman V. Superman remains the superior movie, though I'd-Rather-Die-Than-Watch-This Squad tried it's best.
- Marvel won. Civil War remains the best live action film of 2016, with triple the rottentomato percentage of Kill-Me-Now Squad.
- The Nolan Batman trilogy is garbage. Affleck is a better Batman than Bale could ever HOPE to be.
- Chris Evans is coming for that Oscar.
Mr. Pointy
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Furious 7 is a wonderful film about a bunch of people talking about family to a CGI stand in.
Seriously. They need to replace them with someone who watch DC Animated Universe and Young Justice.
first time with enigmatic_alex?
Mix Master
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Dont you mean THOR 2 THE DANKEST WORLD??
dancingphlower
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Plot doesn't mean anything if the characters suck. Character comes first, always. Why care about what's happening in a story if you don't care about the characters? The success of the MCU is based on the characters. If you don't dig the characters, it would make sense that you don't dig the movies that they star in.
Also, the Hobbit movies are terrible, just though I would throw that out there.
Also, the Hobbit movies are terrible, just though I would throw that out there.
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