Aaron-Lagann
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"There are more moves on the buttons." And I don't even know how true that is, since I only played the first God of War and mashed square-square-triangle the whole time.
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"There are more moves on the buttons." And I don't even know how true that is, since I only played the first God of War and mashed square-square-triangle the whole time.
Glitchesarecool
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I had an argument with a guy on here who said GOW3 was deeper than any DMC game.
Haven't had the opportunity to play anything but DmC Devil May Cry, but the fuck is he on?
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"There are more moves on the buttons." And I don't even know how true that is, since I only played the first God of War and mashed square-square-triangle the whole time.
There's really not, at least not in the first two games and I really didn't care about the third.
Haven't had the opportunity to play anything but DmC Devil May Cry, but the fuck is he on?
Fix that
Phantasmal Repose
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"There are more moves on the buttons." And I don't even know how true that is, since I only played the first God of War and mashed square-square-triangle the whole time.
I guess they meant deeper combat. Still, how would you even compare how "deep" a combat system is?
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I guess they meant deeper combat. Still, how would you even compare how "deep" a combat system is?
By the amount of moves the buttons do!
I had an argument with a guy on here who said GOW3 was deeper than any DMC game.
For a second i thought you meant gears of war and I was like yea marcus phoenix doing sick chainsaw combos
Glitchesarecool
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Fix that
I plan to. Have DMC4 in my Steam library for the weekend, and will get DMC3 when it goes on sale again.
DoktorEvil
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I guess they meant deeper combat. Still, how would you even compare how "deep" a combat system is?
I guess the idea would be "how many button presses and stick motions are required to do super cool moves", right?
I plan to. Have DMC4 in my Steam library for the weekend, and will get DMC3 when it goes on sale again.
Ha, do not do that!
zedreamcast
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Glitchesarecool
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Ha, do not do that!
?
Ha, do not do that!
...why?
Phantasmal Repose
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DMC3 on PC is a terrible port. Grab the DMC collection.
...why?
The steam version of DMC3? It's the worst port of all time. Saints row 2 and Dark Souls could only dream of being that bad
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I guess the idea would be "how many button presses and stick motions are required to do super cool moves", right?
I'm a scrub at character action, even beating 3 on Dante Must Die I was dying every two seconds and had terrible rankings, but I'd say it's combo potential through the varied moves you have and what options you have to use them together, a high level timing and button memorization for the execution of those combos and enemy AI difficult enough to necessitate the use of those systems, otherwise the depth isn't important and you just press square-square-triangle.
The steam version of DMC3? It's the worst port of all time. Saints row 2 and Dark Souls could only dream of being that bad
Ahh, makes sense. That sucks, I was gonna replay it on steam but if that's the case I'll stick to my ps2 version.
Glitchesarecool
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The steam version of DMC3? It's the worst port of all time. Saints row 2 and Dark Souls could only dream of being that bad
Oh chirst.
zedreamcast
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I assumed the Dark Souls steam port would be good.The steam version of DMC3? It's the worst port of all time. Saints row 2 and Dark Souls could only dream of being that bad
Ahh, makes sense. That sucks, I was gonna replay it on steam but if that's the case I'll stick to my ps2 version.
Oh chirst.
DMC collection for Xbox or PS3, get that instead
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I assumed the Dark Souls steam port would be good.
Out the box it's unplayable, but even with the Durante fix, the frame rate is all over the place and it has a bunch of bugs and shit. I honestly prefer the console version despite a slightly worse frame-rate in places, as it's more stable.
I assumed the Dark Souls steam port would be good.
Why? It's Japanese, most Japanese games have terrible PC ports
Nova Bovington
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DMC collection for Xbox or PS3, get that instead
I have neither of those consoles shut up ;_;
Phantasmal Repose
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I'm a scrub at character action, even beating 3 on Dante Must Die I was dying every two seconds and had terrible rankings, but I'd say it's combo potential through the varied moves you have and what options you have to use them together, a high level timing and button memorization for the execution of those combos and enemy AI difficult enough to necessitate the use of those systems, otherwise the depth isn't important and you just press square-square-triangle.
That's all true, however, when I first got DMC4 all I did was mash attack and I still beat the game.
I assumed the Dark Souls steam port would be good.
You thought wrong.
I have neither of those consoles shut up ;_;
Then get fucked
zedreamcast
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Why? It's Japanese, most Japanese games have terrible PC ports
Well DS2s PC port seems great but then again that could just be pats PC.lOut the box it's unplayable, but even with the Durante fix, the frame rate is all over the place and it has a bunch of bugs and shit. I honestly prefer the console version despite a slightly worse frame-rate in places, as it's more stable.
DoktorEvil
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I'm a scrub at character action, even beating 3 on Dante Must Die I was dying every two seconds and had terrible rankings, but I'd say it's combo potential through the varied moves you have and what options you have to use them together, a high level timing and button memorization for the execution of those combos and enemy AI difficult enough to necessitate the use of those systems, otherwise the depth isn't important and you just press square-square-triangle.
I barely remember GOW 2. I remember the Hydra fight from GOW1 and the sex with 2 women QTE but for the most part GOW2 and 3 for me isn't memorable.
RecursiveFault
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Out the box it's unplayable, but even with the Durante fix, the frame rate is all over the place and it has a bunch of bugs and shit. I honestly prefer the console version despite a slightly worse frame-rate in places, as it's more stable.
It's actually super playable. It's just a literal port of the console version. Locked to 720p/30fps.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
It's actually super playable. It's just a literal port of the console version.
Isn't the resolution completely fucked to the point where it's postage stamp without the fix? I was there when my friend loaded it up the first time and it didn't even really work.
Well DS2s PC port seems great but then again that could just be pats PC.l
What? DS 2 has a bunch of problems. The gameplay is tied to the frame rate meaning things like equipment degradation and I-frames are built for 30FPS and playing in 60FPS breaks that
zedreamcast
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Oh I guess im just a fucking idiot then ;-;What? DS 2 has a bunch of problems. The gameplay is tied to the frame rate meaning things like equipment degradation and I-frames are built for 30FPS and playing in 60FPS breaks that
Oh I guess im just a fucking idiot then ;-;
Pat rants about it a whole bunch.
RecursiveFault
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Isn't the resolution completely fucked to the point where it's postage stamp without the fix? I was there when my friend loaded it up the first time and it didn't even really work.
No... sounds like something on your end. It's 720p locked, but you can set it to fullscreen and stuff like normal. There's not really any bugs either and while it's not as optimized as Dark 2, it runs decently.
For a port that was only made because we asked them to make a PC port, by people who don't make PC games, it's pretty amazing how good it is.
DoktorEvil
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Pat rants about it a whole bunch.
Pat rants about a lot of things tbh that we barely pay attention to.
But degradation tied to FR sounds like a gameplay nightmare.
zedreamcast
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Yeah I thought thst was an issue with all of DS2 not just the pc port.Pat rants about it a whole bunch.
Aaron-Lagann
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But degradation tied to FR sounds like a gameplay nightmare.
It's not a problem if you play the game correctly.
AKA WITH MAGIC.
Pat rants about a lot of things tbh that we barely pay attention to.
But degradation tied to FR sounds like a gameplay nightmare.
I listen to all of Pat's rants.
Essentially weapons degrade twice as fast.
I listen to all of Pat's rants.
Essentially weapons degrade twice as fast.
That would suck for katana users like me.
That would suck for katana users like me.
I just used two katanas
I just used two katanas
I dual-wielded unique katanas, can't swap them out. I usually used that ring that decreases durability decay though.
RecursiveFault
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The DS port was definitely playable. The resolution and fps were locked but it full-screened okay. The most annoying things about it for me were GFWL and that the mouse pointer would stay in the middle of the screen. Also, the unskippable logos.
Those are definitely the worst things, thankfully Durante totally fixed the pointer thing. That was actually what motivated me to find DSfix early on.
I listen to all of Pat's rants.
Essentially weapons degrade twice as fast.
But hey!
The roles have more invisibility frames
I dual-wielded unique katanas, can't swap them out. I usually used that ring that decreases durability decay though.
Yeah so did I, but dual-wielding katanas never seemed very efficient. The damage output seemed to be the same as just two handing one katana instead.
DS2 port has some odd flaws, but it still plays with 2-3 times the framerate compared to DS1 with Durante fixWell DS2s PC port seems great but then again that could just be pats PC.l
RecursiveFault
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But hey!
The roles have more invisibility frames
Noooo, if anything they should be halved. I think.
I've yet to see any real tests on that.
Talking about Dark Souls with this avatar is weird. I feel self-aware.
Yeah so did I, but dual-wielding katanas never seemed very efficient. The damage output seemed to be the same as just two handing one katana instead.
Dual-wielding is shit in general. You're removing the ability to block with a shield for negligible damage gain relative to the fatigue cost, and you also sacrifice range since most two-handed weapons are large.
I just did it because I wanted to look cool, but it's a bad build.
Those are definitely the worst things, thankfully Durante totally fixed the pointer thing. That was actually what motivated me to find DSfix early on.
He also made the logos skippable, which made leaving items in the nest much easier.
Dual-wielding is shit in general. You're removing the ability to block with a shield for negligible damage gain relative to the fatigue cost, and you also sacrifice range since most two-handed weapons are large.
I just did it because I wanted to look cool, but it's a bad build.
That was my reason too. "A cool new mechanic that makes using two weapons viable!" Nope.
I still don't use shields though. I have seen the light and it is shieldless
zedreamcast
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Why didnt you just leave an item, kill yourself and then get the item??? Its much faster.He also made the logos skippable, which made leaving items in the nest much easier.
This should be written on my grave stone, this or "At least he tried"
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