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Super Best Friends Thread 8: "You know, we really are the Super Best Friends Play"
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Romars202129
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You know what's weird for me, is the only one of the original characters of that game I legit love the design is Ms Peacock, but I hate keep away characters sadly.
Besides Yukiko from Persona anyways...
Also, I said original for a reason. Of course I think Big Band is rad, and Eliza is decent too.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
You know... If you watch streams that have good Peacocks, they usually don't play her fully keep away. They mostly combo from her keep away.
RecursiveFault
Banned
Peacock is like a 1930s punk-ish Disney character. She looks so cool. I wish I didn't hate everything else about fighting as or against her.
I'd say you're just getting gud at playing Souls. If you thought bosses so far were easy though, you're coming up on a real fun one soon enough.
By one, I mean three at once.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Man. So, the dangers of playing Dark Souls 2 without using a guide (somewhat, I've been drifting in and out of using it).
So I'm in No-man's Wharf and I've got like 10k souls and zero Estus Flasks and I come across a fog door and I'm like "Pfft, this can't be the boss, I'll be fine" and then WHAT THE FUCK FLEXILE SENTRY OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT but then I beat him on my first try so it was okay but man was that shit tense for a minute. Especially the last hit where he charged at me and I charged at him and only had enough stamina for one swing and I was just hammering the attack button hoping to hit him before he hit me and thankfully I did.
This game is pretty good (as expected). Though I have to say, when I beat Flexile Sentry, that was two bosses in a row I'd beaten without dying (beat Dragonrider before him), and that never happened in previous Souls games. Wonder if the bosses in DS2 are maybe a little too easy.
So I'm in No-man's Wharf and I've got like 10k souls and zero Estus Flasks and I come across a fog door and I'm like "Pfft, this can't be the boss, I'll be fine" and then WHAT THE FUCK FLEXILE SENTRY OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT but then I beat him on my first try so it was okay but man was that shit tense for a minute. Especially the last hit where he charged at me and I charged at him and only had enough stamina for one swing and I was just hammering the attack button hoping to hit him before he hit me and thankfully I did.
This game is pretty good (as expected). Though I have to say, when I beat Flexile Sentry, that was two bosses in a row I'd beaten without dying (beat Dragonrider before him), and that never happened in previous Souls games. Wonder if the bosses in DS2 are maybe a little too easy.
Romars202129
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I'm not coming out against Keep away characters, I don't mind fighting them at all actually. It's just, as I figured out with Yukari in Ultimax, they are definitely not for me.
This man gets it.
Anyways, VGA vid froze on me, so I'm hitting the sack. Plan to hook up my Wii U tomorrow, so I might be able to play some smash with you guys hopefully!
We'll see.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I feel like I'm leveling my character all wrong, though. I usually run with Dex/Str builds in these games, and from what I'm reading now, Dex isn't very important in this game at all. Which sucks because my Dex is sitting at like 19 right now.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
Yeah I can see that... I really wish she didn't have the coolest super since most people won't even use it...
DoktorEvil
Banned
DS2 Spoiler:
Soul Vessels can be used at the witches in the beginning of the game to respec.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Just start and continue putting points into strength. Str is the Int of 2, it makes the entire game brain dead easy.
RecursiveFault
Banned
Quality builds are still ok, anything you're reading about dex being worthless is really just talking about specifically Dex weapons. As always, you should just build your stats towards the weapon you wanna use and go from there.
There's a lot of general upkeep stats in DkS2 though. VGR/VIT/END/ADP are all important to keep at a reasonable level. So you end up dumping a lot more points into your character overall.
DoktorEvil
Banned
It's not the end of the world so you have options.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It drops you in a spot that it can't see you, it pulls out its big dumb video game weak point eye and tries to find you with it, in a game full of stealth simple experimentation would lead you to find out that it's blind, and even without that it's clear at the beginning of the fight that its weak point is its big dumb eye just like any other boss in any other game with an eye like that. When I played the game I figured it out immediately, the only way it could be more obvious is if they had fuckin Sonic like dialogue saying, " Wow, this big dumb blind monster's weak point must be its eye!"
DoktorEvil
Banned
I don't recall seeing the big eye until it started glowing purple.
Mind you, I just played that fight a couple of Hours ago.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Alright cool, thanks for the advice. I'll probably end up respeccing at some point anyway, just to be safe.
Another thing I've noticed that I don't like, though, is that spears seem to have been suuuuuper nerfed this time around. Spears got me through the entirety of Demon's and half of Dark 1 until I got Queelag's Flamesword, but in DS2 my stamina runs out after like three jabs with one. Am I crazy or do spears take a hell of a lot more stamina than they used to?
ArchedThunder
Banned
When you start the fight you are behind a pillar, it then immediately extends a stalk with an eye on it, it retracts the eye if you go guns blazing on it. They even saw the eye at the beginning of the fight more than once and ignored it, once even saying "Oh he's just Saddler."
DoktorEvil
Banned
I wish the game conveyed that better then, because the first thing I had to do was run out of the way to dodge that fucker charging at me.
Pumping it with harpoon bolts and kicking fire barrels at it was how I killed it.
RecursiveFault
Banned
We've already had a huge discussion on this when that part came out, but I'll just address your points really quick.
There's no indication that being seen/heard is negative. If it did something as simple as starting out with the eye out instead of giving you time to be seen by walking out before it does that, it would be much clearer. Hell if they started you crouching it would help to imply stealth.
There's also no real visual indication that it's blind until it pulls out that eyestalk and you try stealth. If it started the fight with it out, looking for the player, it'd be a really simple way to show that, instead of giving you enough time to not even see it.
It makes sense when you know that, but there's not much to suggest that you should try it. Heck they even tried stealth on the doge boss earlier, and then people got mad about that.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
People are saying that Lucky Chloe is "Too dumb for Tekken."
RecursiveFault
Banned
I think the dummy made of Wood, Bear, Panda, and Muscle Tiger man are extra super cereal.People are saying that Lucky Chloe is "Too dumb for Tekken."
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Not to mention the disco breakdance fighter, the boxing dinosaur, the cartoon dinosaur, the literal angel, the devil gene and the fuckton of robots, one of which is a cute anime robot lady, are all the most serious and legitimate fighting game characters ever, but this vocaloid girl is completely and 100% unacceptable.
Ultimate_Trainer
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Hey Eddy as the capoeira guy shouldn't be compared to those... Unless there is another disco breakdancing fighter?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Ultimate_Trainer
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I guess I haven't been up to date with Tekken...
Chloe does look fun to play tho...
zedreamcast
Member
Fuck my sleep schedule has been fuckediup these past few days, ive been going to sleep at like 6 am
RecursiveFault
Banned
Me too, high five, I'm gonna try to sleep now g'night.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I don't even know what a sleep schedule is anymore. I just sleep whenever I can.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Tiger's literally just as old as Eddy. He was a secret character in Tekken 3 accessed by pressing Start on Eddy on the character select screen. Since then he's become his own character (but still functionally an Eddy clone).
zedreamcast
Member
Oh god why is sleeping so hard...
Yeah you do that, ill stay on 4chan and talk about naruto....
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
Hmmm I think I would actually take him more than Eddy, I need to check him out in Tekken 3 then.
It's rougher than rough, I just got to some of the longer shooting sections. Okay, having worse platforming than Jak is not great, but I can live with it. But the gunplay is worse than in Jak 2 and 3. How the fuck does that happen?
I'd rather play Spec Ops: The Line on the hardest difficulty than the BS this game calls combat. Aiming is awful, guns are inaccurate, enemies are bullet sponges, cover doesn't really work, there's no sprint, and any progression done mid-combat is punished by having some of the enemies spawn behind you if you managed to beat the final guy in a "wave" in melee combat.
This. Is. Garbage. How the fuck did both Naughty Dog and Insomniac (Resistance 2 campaign) get so bad all of a sudden? They both made consistently great games on the PS2
Unfortunately Pat isn't here to yell at him about how dumb that boss is.
misses bull
Banned
Just drop uncharted 1 and play uncharted 2 its like the best ps3 game.
Eh, it's okay. The new Tomb Raider is much better IMO
I'll still try give it 2 more hours before I wipe this bloated game from my PS3 and just watch the ChipCheezum and Ironicus LP of it.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I stopped playing Uncharted a couple hours in and went straight to 2 and 3. I'm the camp of preferring 3.
DoktorEvil
Banned
You're better off.
They make the game experience much more enjoyable to watch than play.
I never played 3 but what made it so much worse than 2?
DoktorEvil
Banned
If I had to guess, by playing 2 and not touching 3, is that the series suffers the same way DS1 and DS2 does.
2 blew a lot of gamers out of the water.
It wasn't that much worse, but I thought 2 had a better story and cooler levels. I thought the MP was much better too.
I still think Tomb Raider beats Uncharted, but I can't wait to see how the next games turn out
They made the setpieces first, then tried to tie them together with a story afterwards. It should be the other way around.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I don't know why so many people disliked reboot Tomb Raider, because I loved playing Through that game. Combat was a breath of fresh air an I loved the new mobility option Lara now had. Story was flimsy and pacing was a bit ridiculous, but new Lara is exactly how I want a tomb raider game to play.
The MP was surprisingly solid as well.
QTEs and Lara being this weak woman that you feel you must protect, blah blah blah. I went in with low expectations and loved it. It had a bit of a metroidvania feel to it as well.
I feel the same way. I enjoy the gameplay of tomb raider infinitley more than uncharted, it's just that the story/characters are weaker. I'm not much of a MP person anyways, but from what I've played, it wasn't bad at all.
Nothing special but neither was Uncharted to me, TR just did the gameplay better. I liked exploring areas for all the secrets and I really liked the upgrade system.
DoktorEvil
Banned
The big issue I had was for a game called Tomb Raider, we were barely raiding tombs and grabbing treasure.
All of the tombs IIRC were optional.
The plot and characters are bad yes. But that didn't matter to me at all. I didn't play it for that, were the previous Tomb raider games a sterling example of plot and character? I wanted a fun third person shooter and that's what I got.
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