So who is everyone's absolute worst characters? I'm not talking about characters you just kinda suck with and would rather not use; I mean characters you literally cannot play for shit with, like it's not even worth trying. For me, that list looks something like:
- Charizard: I'm not one for big, slow characters, and I just can't use any of his moves properly. He just feels awkward to me. I felt the same way in Brawl.
- Duck Hunt: Sadly.I love the character but can't figure out their kill moves and how best to utilize their smashes, which have terrible KO power.
- Falco: As always, to me he's like a slower, more awkward Fox. I hate his weird high jumps with almost no horizontal movements, his slow blaster, and the fact that he throws his reflector. Still like Fox, but I can't stand using Falco for anything. Which is too bad, because he's cool as a character!
- Ganondorf: Again, big/slow characters are not for me. I'm okay with Bowser and King Dedede because of their specials and the way they move, but Ganondorf just feels horrible to even try to move around. I have a lot of respect for pro 'Dorf players.
- Lucario: I just don't understand this character. My best friend is amazing with him, but I can't ever seem to hit with his normals or airs and it always feels like his specials like Force Palm and whatever his down special is have less range than they should. Clearly that's not the case, though, because pro Lucario players are horribly difficult to deal with.
- Meta Knight: I was pretty crappy with him in Brawl, but he might very well be my absolute worst character in this one. That probably has to do with his nerfs, but I also just don't like the way he plays at all. His specials are awkward to use and his flurry attacks are weird.
- Rosalina & Luma: This is mainly because I haven't put in time to learning how exactly Luma works; I think I could be good with her once I do.
- Samus: She's always been way too floaty for me, her smashes lack killing power, and I absolutely *hate* her slow Morph Ball dodge. If only it was faster!
- Villager: Love the idea of the character, but he/she's just too niche and gimmicky for me to use effectively. I prefer characters with more straightforward strategies (which is ironic, since I'm maining Mega Man to good effect).
- Zelda: I'm really sad to have to put her on this list. She was my second-best in Brawl and I could absolutely wreck shit with her, but she seems to have been nerfed to hell here... or at least, I can't do anything with her anymore. Her up smash and Din's Fire both suck now, she has more ending lag on Nayru's Love, and it feels like she was made even slower than she already was. R.I.P. in peace Brawl Zelda.
I feel like I should maybe add Olimar/Alph to this list, but I somehow seem to do all right when I play them. I'm not sure how that makes any sense, but yeah.
He and Villager are the only newcomers I am using. Well, Pac-Man too, but I can't say I am putting effort in getting better with him (yet).
Pikachu is my mainest main since 64 too and it is really hard to kill with him in Smash 4 ): Racking up damage is not a problem, though... It is the same problem Bowser Jr. have.my list:
Rosalina and Luma: I just don't get it... and I constantly kill myself with her Up + B special
Metaknight: exactly same case that you. I never managed to master him in Brawl, and now I feel him even worse.
R.O.B: I just can't get right the timing of the hits, keeps messing up confusing specials.
Villager: I don't know how to get KO's other than the bowling ball smash, and I can't find myself comfortable with his air game.
Little Mac: I just don't know how to play with no aerial game
SPECIAL MENTION:
Pikachu: He has been my main since the N64 days... but I feel he is TOO nerfed on this game... I just don't manage to beat anyone under 150% now... all of his attacks feel extremely weak. I'm very sad about what they did to my little yellow friend
with every other character I at least manage to be "decent".
Pick Ness with Bowser as your dummy, and set his damage to 999%. Grab him and keep on pummeling -- you'll be able to land 100+ hits before he breaks out of the combo.
I'll be able to help you out tomorrow, hopefully! Or tonight depending on how things go.
It's better now. It's probably unstable.
Welp. It's time to get a replacement battery. My 3ds barely lasts 10 minutes now even on the lowest brightness.
Ooh good call, I forgot link. A lot of those.
Greninja is who I see the most. Online is much more varied with their characters tho.
Where do you find those stats? Like how many wins/loses each character had?
So who is everyone's absolute worst characters? I'm not talking about characters you just kinda suck with and would rather not use; I mean characters you literally cannot play for shit with, like it's not even worth trying. For me, that list looks something like:
- Charizard: I'm not one for big, slow characters, and I just can't use any of his moves properly. He just feels awkward to me. I felt the same way in Brawl.
- Duck Hunt: Sadly.
- Falco: As always, to me he's like a slower, more awkward Fox. I hate his weird high jumps with almost no horizontal movements, his slow blaster, and the fact that he throws his reflector. Still like Fox, but I can't stand using Falco for anything. Which is too bad, because he's cool as a character!
- Ganondorf: Again, big/slow characters are not for me. I'm okay with Bowser and King Dedede because of their specials and the way they move, but Ganondorf just feels horrible to even try to move around. I have a lot of respect for pro 'Dorf players.
- Lucario: I just don't understand this character. My best friend is amazing with him, but I can't ever seem to hit with his normals or airs and it always feels like his specials like Force Palm and whatever his down special is have less range than they should. Clearly that's not the case, though, because pro Lucario players are horribly difficult to deal with.
- Meta Knight: I was pretty crappy with him in Brawl, but he might very well be my absolute worst character in this one. That probably has to do with his nerfs, but I also just don't like the way he plays at all. His specials are awkward to use and his flurry attacks are weird.
- Rosalina & Luma: This is mainly because I haven't put in time to learning how exactly Luma works; I think I could be good with her once I do.
- Samus: She's always been way too floaty for me, her smashes lack killing power, and I absolutely *hate* her slow Morph Ball dodge. If only it was faster!
- Villager: Love the idea of the character, but he/she's just too niche and gimmicky for me to use effectively. I prefer characters with more straightforward strategies (which is ironic, since I'm maining Mega Man to good effect).
- Zelda: I'm really sad to have to put her on this list. She was my second-best in Brawl and I could absolutely wreck shit with her, but she seems to have been nerfed to hell here... or at least, I can't do anything with her anymore. Her up smash and Din's Fire both suck now, she has more ending lag on Nayru's Love, and it feels like she was made even slower than she already was. R.I.P. in peace Brawl Zelda.
I feel like I should maybe add Olimar/Alph to this list, but I somehow seem to do all right when I play them. I'm not sure how that makes any sense, but yeah.
I'm currently sitting at a 153 wins and 16 losses....and I still feel like I have a lot of room to improve. 90.53% win rate.
Anybody up for some matches? 2 to 3 matches before I go to bed
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Thanks so much for this. I'm a low-to-midlevel player who has spent the last 5 days using Palutena exclusively and this is exactly the sort of information I had been looking for to take my game to the next level. I had observed a lot of these move-properties but it is greatly helpful to see everything codified like this so I can consciously process it and deliberately build better tactics.
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