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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT3| Little Mac and Cheese
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Matt Attack
Member
I'd bet a lot that it's Olimar. I play him fairly often but I've only ever seen two or three out of the 500 or so matches I've player. Poor guy.
MrSaturn99
Member
awww man so close! Great games man
Anonymous Tipster
Member
Definitely! Thanks for playing!
KittenMaster
Member
Take a character that already barely anyone cared much about to begin with (besides competitive players that discovered his tier potential), drastically change the core formula of the character, and have 30 FPS attacks, and I imagine you have a very obscure population of mains.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I played him a lot in brawl, but it's easy to get annoyed by his unneeded nerfs while every basically every other character was buffed and just say screw it and play someone else.
KittenMaster
Member
What nerfs did he get that made so many people drop him? Is his new recovery just not that much better than even the tether?
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
New recovery can easily make you lose your pikmin, of which you have less of than before. It is a good really good recovery, but a lot of characters have really good recoveries while also being heavier and thus harder to outright kill.
Forward smash has less KO potential.
Grab has less range and less knockback. Or at least that's how it feels on the small screen.
White pikmin do far less damage when thrown.
Pikmin don't keep up as well, making mobility slower if you want a pikmin close enough to be used, especially with only 3 pikmin to work with.
He's not useless. It's just annoying he's not quite as good.
Matt Attack
Member
I've loved Olimar (okay, Alph now) since Brawl but I'm feeling the nerfs pretty hard. I agree though that I think he'll be at least a little better on Wii U. It's hard enough grappling with the controls as it is, but the small screen and low Pikmin fps aren't helping. Nerfs or not, I'm going to play him because he and his Pikmin are adorable.
In other news, it makes me sad how easily D3's Gordos can be reflected. They're good as a surprise move every now and then but I feel like half the time they get reflected without the opponent even intending to do so.
In other news, it makes me sad how easily D3's Gordos can be reflected. They're good as a surprise move every now and then but I feel like half the time they get reflected without the opponent even intending to do so.
Masked Man
I said wow
Yeah, I was surprised at how many people could just eat right through the Gordos and punish D3 instead. Then again, as a Lucas main from Brawl, I have a secret vendetta against all characters who chain-grabbed my boy, so I can't say I'm too upset.
KittenMaster
Member
It's pretty good that they can easilly be knocked back by pretty much anything because otherwise they control absurd amounts of space on their own due to how they move.
I was just informed that I had collected every Mii outfit... each fighter type only has 4 unlockable outfits? :/
I mean, the way they're unlocked maybe I shouldn't complain, but I was hoping for more (or better) options for the brawler. Matter of fact, why do they even have to be separate for each fighter type?
I mean, the way they're unlocked maybe I shouldn't complain, but I was hoping for more (or better) options for the brawler. Matter of fact, why do they even have to be separate for each fighter type?
Why can't my Brawler wear the fancy suit to go with his top hat? :c
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KittenMaster
Member
Yeah, many of my concepts are limited by often the right costume being put on the wrong Mii Fighter type.
Masked Man
I said wow
I had to make Asuka into a Swordfighter because that was the only type with an outfit that looked like the plug suit. :/
Masked Man
I said wow
I'm convinced that the CF players on For Glory are the biggest dicks in the world, lol.
1) Spam dash grab
2) Land a KO
3) Spam taunt
4) Quit game after one round regardless of outcome
1) Spam dash grab
2) Land a KO
3) Spam taunt
4) Quit game after one round regardless of outcome
ColossalLazy
Member
Anyone up for some FFAs with items?
CreeperBlocks
Banned
I love these so much.
Man, the thing I hate the most about Smash 4 is having a really intense, tight battle with an opponent on a first stock. You're both at high percentages, your opponent manages to land a K.O. move and then when you're down to your last stock you can never manage to land that final attack to get the other down to their last stock.
You end up getting two stocked, happens more often that I'd like to admit. That's all me though.
You end up getting two stocked, happens more often that I'd like to admit. That's all me though.
Geminosity
Member
After discussing it here and people changing my mind, I've started staying on against opponents that I'm beating a lot to give them a chance to learn stuff. That said, this new change in my play policy means I'm starting to notice a trend on 'For Glory' of people giving up in the middle of a fight :/
Just today after pummelling someone with Palutena for a bit (gotta get Palu those conquest points!,) I decided to let Lucina stretch her legs for a bit and she took my opponent's first stock without even taking a hit. My foe's response on respawning was to jump up and down a bit then run off the stage and Self-Destruct, which struck me as both odd and a bit disappointing.
They stayed around in the lobby though so I figured maybe they felt their sonic wasn't good enough and were getting their 'main' so we fought again and Bowser appeared... until I KO'ed him too with very little damage received after which the king of koopas stood stock still until i got bored and put him off the edge (shouldn't have been a disconnect as there was no lag spike nor the smash symbol showing up. Plus the computer that replaces a disconnect tends to walk about)
I don't hold it against people to leave after a match if they're not winning (personally, I tend to stick around to the bitter end unless there's lag. I'm more interested in opponents who can beat me anyhoo :3 ) but giving up mid-match is kinda bleh and I feel like it's disrespectful to your opponent not to give your all until the end
Just today after pummelling someone with Palutena for a bit (gotta get Palu those conquest points!
,) I decided to let Lucina stretch her legs for a bit and she took my opponent's first stock without even taking a hit. My foe's response on respawning was to jump up and down a bit then run off the stage and Self-Destruct, which struck me as both odd and a bit disappointing.They stayed around in the lobby though so I figured maybe they felt their sonic wasn't good enough and were getting their 'main' so we fought again and Bowser appeared... until I KO'ed him too with very little damage received after which the king of koopas stood stock still until i got bored and put him off the edge (shouldn't have been a disconnect as there was no lag spike nor the smash symbol showing up. Plus the computer that replaces a disconnect tends to walk about)
I don't hold it against people to leave after a match if they're not winning (personally, I tend to stick around to the bitter end unless there's lag. I'm more interested in opponents who can beat me anyhoo :3 ) but giving up mid-match is kinda bleh and I feel like it's disrespectful to your opponent not to give your all until the end
Spinosaurus
Member
This is the worst when you're using characters with bad KO options like Junior.
I love kyle Hyde BTW, I even imported last window to play the sequel to hotel dusk
Masked Man
I said wow
After discussing it here and people changing my mind, I've started staying on against opponents that I'm beating a lot to give them a chance to learn stuff. That said, this new change in my play policy means I'm starting to notice a trend on 'For Glory' of people giving up in the middle of a fight :/
Just today after pummelling someone with Palutena for a bit (gotta get Palu those conquest points!
They stayed around in the lobby though so I figured maybe they felt their sonic wasn't good enough and were getting their 'main' so we fought again and Bowser appeared... until I KO'ed him too with very little damage received after which the king of koopas stood stock still until i got bored and put him off the edge (shouldn't have been a disconnect as there was no lag spike nor the smash symbol showing up. Plus the computer that replaces a disconnect tends to walk about)
I don't hold it against people to leave after a match if they're not winning (personally, I tend to stick around to the bitter end unless there's lag. I'm more interested in opponents who can beat me anyhoo :3 ) but giving up mid-match is kinda bleh and I feel like it's disrespectful to your opponent not to give your all until the end
That happened with this guy's Ganondorf earlier. He just started walking around and I was totally confused. We had gone through a number of characters, but he just gave up when Mac came out. Now that I know what happened, I'm a little irked, haha.
Geminosity
Member
I think I groan inwardly whenever I see litlte mac turn up now, even though some of them are hilariously bad and SD themselves off the end with their running punch half the time :3
It took me a bit to realise that disconnects get replaced with a level 3 NPC instead of just going to the menu too. The very sudden and noticable change in behavour is quite off-putting and I'm not sure why they did that outside of maybe hoping people wouldn't notice and would feel good about getting a win against an opponent that basically just walks about and randomly attacks on the rare occasion
Dr. Buni
Member
I sigh every time I face a Little Mac online. The character isn't that hard to beat most of the time, but his moveset is so annoying, full of bullshit moves with super armor, not to mention the stupid KO punch. Ugh ): I am starting to dislike Mac, but in the end it isn't even the character's fault. Poor Mac.
She's one of my tertiary mains and I really like her. She's not quite Melee level but her aerials are damn good and she has tremendous off stage capabilities. Her big problems seem to be speed and that exacerbates the fact that she's easily KO'd. Also pound got nerfed.
RomanceDawn
Member
Yeah, Bair and Nair just about the only things you can do when approaching an opponent. Getting back on stage is a chore as well.
I still haven't found a use for mid air down B. I used it once in the air successfully for spike like thing but it's super unsafe in a short hop with the opponent already touching the ground.
What do you think of his ground up B?
It's funny because Olimar was literally a character in Brawl people used because of tiers, honestly. If not that, then just his potential.
It's better than it was in Brawl but the only use you have for it is as an out of shield option to get out of pressure and/or just to get someone off of you. It doesn't really KO because of how often you're going to use it but it's at least much more consistent as an OoS option than it was in Brawl.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting much from it with my own experiences. I hate how his neutral B takes so long to charge up, and then depreciates over time as well.
I need 3 more. But god damn it is the worst.How manys headgears yous guys gots?
You can't, afaik.
I've only fought one online with Ike and it was the most annoying match I've ever played.
Roll to edge, throw Pikmin, spot dodge approach, shield grab, roll to other side.
I still won, but it made me realize that there's camping, and then there's Olimar. Glad he doesn't get any use.
Airdodge first and then ZAir.
Karsticles
Member
What do you all think is more disrespectful after an opponent loses a stock and suicides the second one out of rage?
1) Taunt all the way down, and then leave.
2) Taunt all the way down, and then stay to beat them again, taunting every time you hit them.
1) Taunt all the way down, and then leave.
2) Taunt all the way down, and then stay to beat them again, taunting every time you hit them.
Thanks! That worked.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I am still miffed there is no Pushmo stage/trophy
Masked Man
I said wow
I think that's only a US thing. I almost never run into Mac on JP For Glory--and when I do, it's usually an opponent I just beat with Mac who decides they want to use him against me in hopes of winning this time. (Unfortunately for them, they rarely do, haha.)