You use Bowser so getting rid of Luma isn't too difficult compared to some other characters. Some characters like Megaman can struggle pretty badly against competent Rosalinas. It should be a bad matchup but it is still irritating that Luma came back so quickly after I get rid of it.
It's not really a lack of sympathy, more just saying that if touching a thorn hurts you then the best strategy is to not grab handfuls of thorns :3
This obviously isn't an issue against bowsers that know what they're doing and isn't a reason I'd make any changes to it personally :3
Gah. Sucks for his fans.
Can't you do something like hop past Luma and bair her off the stage?
5 seconds is a lot of time in a fighting game.
Bowser actually isn't that great at KOing people if they know his tricks and gimmicks. His fsmash is the most stuffable move in the game, usmash has a small hitbox, dsmash has weak knockback, bowser bomb and dair require an opponent to make a big mistake, and bair has a very small hitbox that is easily stuffed. I get most of my kills either from a really good read with bowser bomb, or fairing people off-stage, which usually kills at ~120%. That's not too bad, but it's quite high for a heavy character like Bowser. If they are good at dodging fairs and turtle a lot, I might even have to wait until 160%, when Fortress starts to kill.It's not really a lack of sympathy, more just saying that if touching a thorn hurts you then the best strategy is to not grab handfuls of thorns :3
I don't really have any real strong feelings on bowsercide personally, though it can get somewhat tiresome against low level bowsers who start spamming it as soon as you lose a stock with no clear understanding that I'll be the one in control of the direction because I have less % than them on the rare occassion that their predictable repetions connect
As for it being situational... I main Palutena. half her default moves/normals are situational and the situations for a good few of them might as well be 'never'
Was the damage from Bowsercide hitting the stage not worth it or something? It still works fine if you have a stock lead and unless I'm mistaken it's not like Bowser lacks for KO options outside of it, or have you been struggling to knock people out?
I wouldn't say "crap", but it's a struggle.
I rarely, rarely Bowsercide, because if I land Klaw I am confident that I can get a lot of % as a follow-up.
If Link was in blockstun from using the shield, it would be a drawback in a lot of situations.
In this case it sounds like if you are in the situation of 1 stock each, them with a % lead then it's still useable in the central areas of the stage where it's too far from the edge to control off (again, depending on the control amount they currently would get from it) Less agreeable is examples like Ibuki's slide in SSF4 where if not spaced perfectly the opponent will recover from hitstun (yes, hitstun, not blockstun ) before you finish the recovery animations and you can be punished. It doesn't render the move useless (if anything it's still very useful) but it does mean you have to be pretty careful with it's use if you plan on hitting with it
In Brawl he beat out pretty much any move with his sword, had kill moves with instant start-up that were very safe, it was too difficult to hit him out of his tornado move, limited how characters could kill him due to having near infinite recovery, and so forth.
Most of his moves have more lag (even if you don't land, it takes at least twice as long to do a repeated up air). Tornado is smaller, has way less priority and mobility, (and I think less damage?). Almost all of his attacks also have deceptively small hitboxes now. Where before they would hit where ever you saw the sword, now they hit throughout around 3/4 of the visible sword. So if you hit opponents with the tips of your attacks, you just miss.
Also, that video of his new hitboxes...does anyone have a link? I can't find it.
You should never, ever be punished for hitting your opponent unless it is some kind of character theme (take damage as they do, or something like that).Interesting to know. Keep in mind I didn't say "don't use the move" I said "don't use the move in the specific situations where it is bad to use it." Hence the 'dont grab thorns' analogy... I'm not telling you to never pick up plants in general
As for downsides on hit, it happens in some fighting games and it's not always a bad design. For example, if I land a grab on someone in UNIEL but afterwards they break the throw then I'll lose a metric ton of meter and they'll gain it. It's a punishment for grabbing someone who was ready for it/being predictable and despite the system I still get a lot of successful grabs
That all said, there's one thing I'm curious about: I assumed the Klaw was a command grab (aka unblockable) but I'm going to guess that it's maybe an attack grab instead? (aka blockable and only becomes a grab if not blocked)
Also, keep in mind that I'm not actually defending this change and I appreciate that for the moves it affect that it's no small change either, just saying that it's not like the move has been stripped off Bowser or made utterly useless :3
Yes, thank you! Steve, this is the new Meta Knight.
Beaten by someone who mains the slowest character in the game.
Doesn't stop me pegging people with Auto-reticule constantly whenever they try to create space, nor occasionally countering little mac :3Oh, play smart. That's what we've all been forgetting.
Get in your opponent's head. Recognize that he is a turtle that can breathe fire.
Sadly I have no way of posting a vid
You don't own a phone with recording capabilities? That's what I used.
I could try recording on my phone. At work now so will try later tonight. I will pm you my code when I get off work as well. I'm on the west coast
That and the mega upper feel very good to land.
luckily for the Bowser guys, actual tournaments will likely continue granting wins for Bowsercides
luckily for the Bowser guys, actual tournaments will likely continue granting wins for Bowsercides
luckily for the Bowser guys, actual tournaments will likely continue granting wins for Bowsercides
Yeah, just:
There's a great video of it on TS Ninja's YT account I think.
Weird fact: when I play Bowser, I find a ton of people who attack me from the air so that I shield -> fortress. When I play Mega Man, I never get the opportunity to shield -> utilt. :-(
I want it to go *SMASH*, followed by "GAME!" I already do a fist pump every time I land his side B. :-/ Feels so damn satisfying.luckily for the Bowser guys, actual tournaments will likely continue granting wins for Bowsercides