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[Dead Prince]

It's showing on media go! $39.99

 

[robotzombie]

Okay, I tend to like physical type characters, especially stylish ones. In general I like samurai, dragoons, all different types of cool warriors. In terms of characters you can only get on one path or the other, which path (Law, Neutral, Chaos) would you suggest so I could get cool characters that fit my style? Luckily Diego seems to be gotten no matter the path, so I'm happy with that

 

[KaYotiX]

It's UP! via search GO!

Can't wait to get home and DL it

 

[Gattsu25]

It's UP! via search GO!

Thanks! Downloading now

 

[platypotamus]

Amazon still hasn't shipped my game. :\

Also, I'm going to have to remember how to update my CFW, forgot about that.

 

[Dead Prince]

1.10GB btw

 

[Sallokin]

Just got mine delivered, which is great because I need a break from MvC3

 

[Snaku]

DLing now.

 

[Volcynika]

Mine delivered from Amazon earlier. Looks nice!

 

[kafka rock opera]

DLing now.

Me too! im excited to get to play it soon! hopefully the DL doesnt take too long.

 

[oracrest]

Damn these tarot cards are beautiful. Probably the coolest pre-order item I have gotten before.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Saw it on PSN!

*sniff*

(Wipes away the tears!)

 

[John Harker]

Got it!

$39, damn! But how could I say no?
(okay, granted, my limited experience with the Ogre series, see: Ogre Battle SNES, was so poor it turned me off from the entire series, HOWEVER... FFT and War of Lions are like Top 3 all time, so heeeeeeeere weeeeeeee goooooo)

 

[Dead Prince]

7 minutes left to download through Media Go.

 

[Blast Processing]

What the goddamn fuck! I'm getting "credit card info is not valid" with 2 different cards!

edit: weird, it works fine on PS3. 0% and 434 minutes left....

 

[Dead Prince]

What the goddamn fuck! I'm getting "credit card info is not valid" with 2 different cards!

is it the right billing address? like have you gotten it changed or is it the same card you used before?

 

[Lumpy Onion]

Damnit, four Gamestops near my house got TO today, except for the one I preordered it from. Oh well I can wait.

 

[Blast Processing]

is it the right billing address? like have you gotten it changed or is it the same card you used before?

No idea. It was a no go on the PSP, fine on PS3. My PSP is not CFW or anything.

 

[aceface]

It's making me update damnit...and of course it's not charged enough to update! AHHHHHHHH

 

[Minsc]

Tarot cards are very sweet, love how the intro questions are random too, and it's nice having the cards you see in the intro. Game is top notch so far. Can't wait to dive in more this weekend, hopefully!

 

[709zzy]

Is anyone able to level up any of the character base stats?
I wonder if the English version is similar to the Japanese one in terms of
the leveling system.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

Another "how long is this game" question.

I know SRPGs last a long time, but how long can this game go in a single play through?

 

[Basileus777]

Is anyone able to level up any of the character base stats?
I wonder if the English version is similar to the Japanese one in terms of
the leveling system.

I checked against an earlier save, and the base stats definitely increase. It's just not a very fast process. The characters who leveled up more, such as Denam who started as a Knight and later leveled up as a Ninja from level 1, had the largest increases.

 

[Borman]

Amazing game! Been waiting for a strategy rpg this awesome

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Guys, ill be honest. I loved FFTA but had a ton of trouble with war of the lions. I could only get a couple hours into the game before getting my ass kicked and having no way to grind. Will i be able to enjoy this "remake" if its as old school as FFT? Im updating my psp go firmware right now to download it but im scared. Im scared im throwing that money away to never touch it again after 2 hours like i am kind of doing right now with NiTN.

 

[careful]

Guys, ill be honest. I loved FFTA but had a ton of trouble with war of the lions. I could only get a couple hours into the game before getting my ass kicked and having no way to grind. Will i be able to enjoy this "remake" if its as old school as FFT? Im updating my psp go firmware right now to download it but im scared. Im scared im throwing that money away to never touch it again after 2 hours like i am kind of doing right now with NiTN.

Where did you get stuck in FFT? The beginning can be a bit tough, but it wasn't that bad. Maybe you weren't using an optimal strategy?

 

[Yaweee]

Guys, ill be honest. I loved FFTA but had a ton of trouble with war of the lions. I could only get a couple hours into the game before getting my ass kicked and having no way to grind. Will i be able to enjoy this "remake" if its as old school as FFT? Im updating my psp go firmware right now to download it but im scared. Im scared im throwing that money away to never touch it again after 2 hours like i am kind of doing right now with NiTN.

I won't say it isn't as hard as FFT, but a few things:

1) Chapter 1 of FFT was easily its hardest stretch of battles.
2) You can rewind in the middle of battle instantly, so losing isn't as frustrating.

 

[kafka rock opera]

Download done! Installing now, impressions later.

 

[Blast Processing]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but what benefit does the install process give when the whole game is already on the memory stick (PSN download)?

 

[Yaweee]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but what benefit does the install process give when the whole game is already on the memory stick (PSN download)?

It actually makes it worse

 

[kafka rock opera]

It actually makes it worse

Is this different from the initial install that the game does when you download it?

 

[Snakeyes]

I finally beat

Spoiler

the necromancer

at level 3!

 

[Sallokin]

Great so far. Also the Tarot Cards bonus is slick as hell.

 

[Wazzim]

DL done, all I can say: It's fucking beautiful. And the flag at the end of a battle must be one of the most impressive things on the psp lol.

 

[Seda]

Got the game from Amazon today.

Before I start, anything I should know from the get go to get the most out of this game? And are there any significant "missables"?

 

[Basileus777]

Got the game from Amazon today.

Before I start, anything I should know from the get go to get the most out of this game? And are there any significant "missables"?

Nothing is really "missable" because of the wheel of fate system, which lets you replay earlier parts of the game once you've finished it. But yeah, there are characters and sidequests you can miss, especially in chapters 3 and 4. There's actually a decent guide for that here.

 

[Seda]

Nothing is really "missable" because of the wheel of fate system, which lets you replay earlier parts of the game once you've finished it. But yeah, there are characters and sidequests you can miss, especially in chapters 3 and 4. There's actually a decent guide for that here.

Thanks. I usually don't like following guides, but this seems convenient enough.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Nothing is really "missable" because of the wheel of fate system, which lets you replay earlier parts of the game once you've finished it. But yeah, there are characters and sidequests you can miss, especially in chapters 3 and 4. There's actually a decent guide for that here.

What's the deal with characters 'having something to say'? Does it unlock sidequests or something?

 

[Seda]

What's the deal with characters 'having something to say'? Does it unlock sidequests or something?

The guide writer (Last Cetra) says that he includes "...the conditions for dialogues to take place in each battle". Looks like many don't do anything. Fire Emblem games have a lot of these.

 

[TheSeks]

2) You can rewind in the middle of battle instantly, so losing isn't as frustrating.

Doesn't that count against the "no one KO/died" title? Or is that just reloading the battle to make it right?

Is this different from the initial install that the game does when you download it?

Yes. The PSN version installs/decompresses and removes the download stuff to where it's smaller than the initial download package is due to DRM/game stuff in it.

Installing the data while the game is already on the memory stick probably won't do anything given it's loading from the stick. Think Halo 3 being installed on the 360 when it's designed to be streamed from the disc. Probably makes things worse. I wouldn't use it, personally.

 

[Basileus777]

What's the deal with characters 'having something to say'? Does it unlock sidequests or something?

Some of it is required to recruit certain characters, but mostly it's just optional dialogue. I've only played the Law path so far and on that route, the only thing I've found essential

Spoiler

is a bunch of Jeunan's dialogue in chapter 3. It's needed if you want to recruit Ravness. If it's like the original, this dialogue is needed t recruit Oxyones too.

 

[ixix]

The leveling mechanic in this game seems awfully exploitable. If I'm understanding this correctly:

- Classes gain experience at the end of battle, and the more members of that class that participated in the battle, the more experience is gained.

- When a class levels up after a battle all members of that class that participated in the battle get a permanent stat increase.

- Class level ups are permanent, and any character who changes to that class in the future will be whatever the level of the class is, even if they are a just-recruited neophyte still wet behind the ears.

Given all that, it really seems like the game wants the player to maximize the number of members of a single class in every battle. If you take that idea to its logical end and make all 12 members of your battle party the same class then not only are you gaining class levels more quickly, you're also getting a stat gain for every single member of the battle party every time the class gains a level.

Unless I'm missing something or the game throws in a confounding factor at some point this seems like a system that massively rewards grinding.

Which is a prospect that I have absolutely no objection to.

 

[Yaweee]

The leveling mechanic in this game seems awfully exploitable. If I'm understanding this correctly:

- Classes gain experience at the end of battle, and the more members of that class that participated in the battle, the more experience is gained.

- When a class levels up after a battle all members of that class that participated in the battle get a permanent stat increase.

- Class level ups are permanent, and any character who changes to that class in the future will be whatever the level of the class is, even if they are a just-recruited neophyte still wet behind the ears.

Given all that, it really seems like the game wants the player to maximize the number of members of a single class in every battle. If you take that idea to its logical end and make all 12 members of your battle party the same class then not only are you gaining class levels more quickly, you're also getting a stat gain for every single member of the battle party every time the class gains a level.

Unless I'm missing something or the game throws in a confounding factor at some point this seems like a system that massively rewards grinding.

Which is a prospect that I have absolutely no objection to.

The permanent stat increase with each level really isn't that big, and there's the increasing amount of exp per level to contend with.

 

[ixix]

But it seems to me that the increase being small makes it even more conducive to grinding. The smaller the individual increase the more increases a character needs for them to make a noticeable difference, meaning that maximizing the number of increases each character receives becomes even more important.

The increasing experience is a con, it's true, but any old hand at grinding is well used to contending with it, and at this point I don't particularly view that as an inherent negative so much as I view it as a challenge to be accepted and overcome.

 

[Basileus777]

Enemy levels don't scale with you infinitely on your first playthrough. On story battles, there is very little scaling at all. I imagine you'd reach a point fairly early where you stop gaining meaningful experience even with the benefits of using all the same class.



The game isn't really difficult enough to make that sort of grinding worthwhile. There's no real incentive to do it unless you're a completionist who wants all his characters' base stats maxed at 100.

 

[Unknown One]

Let me get this straight.

So if I made everybody the same class and max that out and repeat that for the next class my main character will be beasting?

I'm too far ahead to start over. I'll do it for the next playthrough.

 

[Varth]

If I remember correctly, in fft I was able to check which place in the turn list I would end up by performing a certain action. Is there a way to do that here? So far is the most annoying problem for me.

 

[Basileus777]

If I remember correctly, in fft I was able to check which place in the turn list I would end up by performing a certain action. Is there a way to do that here? So far is the most annoying problem for me.

There are no charged abilities in this game, so I'm not sure why you would need a list like that.

The turn order is shown on the bottom of the screen.

 

[Snaku]

Finally finished downloading, but I'm too exhausted to play. So glad I I'm off work today.

 

[ixix]

Enemy levels don't scale with you infinitely on your first playthrough. On story battles, there is very little scaling at all. I imagine you'd reach a point fairly early where you stop gaining meaningful experience even with the benefits of using all the same class.



The game isn't really difficult enough to make that sort of grinding worthwhile. There's no real incentive to do it unless you're a completionist who wants all his characters' base stats maxed at 100.

I should note that I'm not pursuing this avenue of inquiry because I'm afraid that the game's difficulty will prove more than I can handle, but rather because I want to ensure that Warren Moon Jumbledlastname dutifully records my exploits for posterity as "Textiles McJeanyjeans and the Curbstompin' Campaign for Walisterian Independence."

Essentially when the game is done and the credits are rolling I want to be secure in the knowledge that Den(i/a)m will be recalled by future generations as a folk hero on par with Johnny Appleseed, but instead of apple trees he will be remembered for planting genocide.