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Tales of Xillia 2 |OT| Return of the Bazongas
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Mattakuevan
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So I just finished chapter 7 and really not feeling it. I'm not entirely sure why but so many things seem off about this game.
I mean, its objectively better than Xillia 1, but I like it considerably less.
I think its a combination of the characters just kind of "being there" other than Ludger/Elle/Julius and many frustrations with the content walls. Its easy to say "just go hunt a gigantos" but its still quite frustrating and insulting of my time.
The silent protag thing is also killing it for me. Normally I don't care, but Tales games usually have a lot of great character interactions. Since Ludger basically says nothing the skits feel really off.
The gameplay is fine in-battle, but the rest of the game is just kinda meh. I absolutely cannot stand how much backtracking there is. The fast travel helps, but having to go through the same areas again via a plot device
is frustrating since they were never interesting even in Xillia 1.
/rant
I mean, its objectively better than Xillia 1, but I like it considerably less.
I think its a combination of the characters just kind of "being there" other than Ludger/Elle/Julius and many frustrations with the content walls. Its easy to say "just go hunt a gigantos" but its still quite frustrating and insulting of my time.
The silent protag thing is also killing it for me. Normally I don't care, but Tales games usually have a lot of great character interactions. Since Ludger basically says nothing the skits feel really off.
The gameplay is fine in-battle, but the rest of the game is just kinda meh. I absolutely cannot stand how much backtracking there is. The fast travel helps, but having to go through the same areas again via a plot device
yay demensional crap
/rant
You can unlock his voice for New Game+. All of his choices, skits etc will be voiced.
Liferebooted
Banned
Elle is fucking adorable.
That's really weird, she's honestly the worst Tales child to me and I've played them all. Really bratty voice, attitude, smart mouthed. She's the cliche of these characters.
I agree about the addition of the old characters. It's like they have nothing better to do so they tag along. I like to believe its because only a year has passed so they aren't fully settled from the events of the last game, but eh.
That's Anise.
Her personality was annoying true but the voice was okay. Elles voice is the cherry on the sundae of disaster.
Even the skits? That's the first time I've heard anyone mention his skits will be voiced too. That's great news.
what's even the point of having it only in ng+, I don't get it.
I mean, I understand that they probably wanted to add something for the ng+ and add some replay value, but they could have thought of something better. if you want to "enjoy his voice" you have to play the whole game again. meh.
WTF, no she's not. Emperor Peony was the best thing about that game.
Elle's voice is indeed awful during the skits and in game cutscenes but when there's anime cutscenes I don't mind her that much. And she is less annoying as the games goes on I think.
Basileus777
Member
It is dumb, that's why I grabbed a clear save online before starting so I could play it voiced the first time through. I think I'd like Ludger much less if he was silent.
Spectrasonic
Member
I'm not a fan how Elle is the mouthpiece for Ludger. Since she even appears in his status screen image, I guess she's around for the entire story :/
Novum_Veritas
Member
Well just play further, you'll see soon enough, if your thesis proves right
Real spoilers below (late game)
It is kinda amusing that Elle isn't around for post-game stuff
Yeah, I don't get it either. I think it is a damn stupid decision from Bandai Namco's side. Hopefully they won't do something like this with the main characters and voices again.
It's more of Hideo Baba's decision. Meh. I would like my protagonist voiced as well, but I guess he's open to experimenting here and there. They can't keep the voices out forever since the female fanbase of Tales Of generally love the male protagonists and the voice actors that voiced them. They are very popular during the Tales Of Festival.
If the Tales Of fanbase are generally against the idea after trying it once, I don't think he will be inclined to pull the same thing again.
"Hideo: In Tales of Xillia 2, I would like players to be able to reflect themselves into the main character, so I felt we could achieve this by removing the voice of the main character and by introducing the choice system. This is why I removed the voice. But actually, even in Japan, some of the players appreciate listening to the voice overs in the game. In the first round, I like players to enjoy the game under the conditions we want to describe. In the second round, there are so many people who want to hear the voice overs and I think they can enjoy the second playthrough with different impressions and feelings."
Taken from "http://www.mcmbuzz.com/2014/05/26/interview-with-hideo-baba-designer-and-producer-of-tales-of-xillia-2/"
Liferebooted
Banned
Is there anyway to check what jobs I'm on without going to town to see the job board? Getting sick of needing more info on them that I've forgotten but I can't find them in the menu.
Novum_Veritas
Member
Yes, go under Library Tab and then under Events, you can check the jobs, and what you have todo.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I'm only a few hours in, but I'm really enjoying the game. It just feels right playing a Xillia game again.
Xenoflare
Member
You can only have 4 people with you, meaning you can't swap the members
But benched characters will still receive aillum orb points and exp, so don't worry too much.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Does this game have the arts item that lets you equip more artes to L1+O etc? I've finished up to main story chapter 5.
How so?
Novum_Veritas
Member
You'll get it later, not sure after which chapter though, but you'll get it through story progression.
Ahh, I did not know this. Thanks for the heads up.
Xenoflare
Member
yeah I know that but like.. who is she? is she really just a random girl who Ludger took a fancy to?
not exactly random but business partners at least. I was expecting more lol
edit: oh wait, doesn't Elle introduce herself using her full name? oh man guess that's all there was to it. so Ludger went running because the girl he was meeting had Elle's last name and she must be her mom... or will be her mom
not exactly random but business partners at least. I was expecting more lol
edit: oh wait, doesn't Elle introduce herself using her full name? oh man guess that's all there was to it. so Ludger went running because the girl he was meeting had Elle's last name and she must be her mom... or will be her mom
Xenoflare
Member
It's basically Devil Trigger.
People weren't kidding when they said Ludger is Dante.
Mystic Artes actually do damages now, cool.
Magic attacks are finally not useless, I remember I was flabbergasted on how the magic attacks are so weak. (Except Rowen's fireball and tidal wave)
dakkumauji
Member
We surprisingly got the sports DLC this week.
There is still the cameo, school, swimsuit for the new playable cast members of this game.
There should also be more attachments (more hats, elemental spirits) as well.
And that's about it. We probably won't get the Code Geass Akito costumes nor the Madoka costumes either.
i never even use it
I stopped using it after a while and then only used it when it seemed like fights would take forever.
blankempathy
Member
I dont understand the logic behind this unless its plot related some how. The option should be there from the start.
nintendoman58
Member
Holy crap at the Chapter 10 boss. Worst designed boss battle I've ever experienced in a Tales game.
I don't know why I wasted all my life bottles since soloing him seemed like the only solution.
All you can do is basically gunspam him because he hits so hard at close range and permanently enters a mode later on where he resists all attributes. You gotta use Chromatis to actually inflict damage on him. Rinse and repeat while dodging his attacks and then you win.
I don't know why I wasted all my life bottles since soloing him seemed like the only solution.
Ludger being kind-of-silent-but-not-entirely isn't nearly as awkward as everyone made it out to be. Besides, if it guarantees we don't get another protagonist like Asbel, I'm all for it.
Nova seems to not give a single fuck that her friend(?/classmate?) just got saddled with a 20 million glad debt, on top of what's going on with his brother.
Nova seems to not give a single fuck that her friend(?/classmate?) just got saddled with a 20 million glad debt, on top of what's going on with his brother.
Xenoflare
Member
As I said earlier, a shame that you can't beat her and Vera as optional bosses.
and why the hell those two would be in the true ending picture near the end of the credits, totally ruined a good photo
Haha, that's how I feel so far. I keep wanting to completely clear the board of all the missions even if I have to go around one shotting weak enemies.
The game sure opens up a lot after dripfeeding towards Rieza Maxia, I'm really liking the focus on weaknesses.
Mattakuevan
Member
Well... based on playing only through ch.7: Combat, the meat of the gameplay, is considerably better overall than Xillia 1 with the weakness system, multiple weapons, and over all better link system. Also there is simply more to do, more akin to the other tales of games. Xillia 1 was very "light" on anything interesting outside of the main story.
So from a "game" standpoint I'd say its better, but it falls flat on its face with other aspects like story and characterization.