Sorry I left so early this evening. I wasn't really feeling TF2 as it was, and metaphorically had already gotten some (imo) bullshit kills on me throughout the hour, but when he got an ambassador headshot from all the way across the room in gorge I just said fuck it and ragequit.
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Team Fortress 2 |OT3| - Murder-based Hat Simulator
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Acerac
Banned
I can totally understand Zero, I was feeling the same way when that sunbitch facestabbed me multiple times. The worst part is when I know he's there and I'm actively attacking him, yet he still manages to backstab me.
Killing some non-ridiculous spies as a medic calmed me down pretty quickly however. It's amazing how easy they are to take down when Meta is your standard for the class.
After that it was pretty smooth sailing. It's amazing how quickly I've been able to get decent enough at medic to get a 1:1 uber:death ratio off fairly consistently on most maps. Not gonna lie though, the obliviousness of some of my teammates who I was healing got old pretty damned quick, but I'm developing a list of GAFfers who are worth pocketing.
That's the nice thing about medic, no matter how much somebody cries for healing, you have absolutely no obligation to give them shit if they won't help you when you need it (or if they attack your spray pre-match
). Healing good teammates on the other hand can be a wonderful thing.
Killing some non-ridiculous spies as a medic calmed me down pretty quickly however. It's amazing how easy they are to take down when Meta is your standard for the class.
After that it was pretty smooth sailing. It's amazing how quickly I've been able to get decent enough at medic to get a 1:1 uber:death ratio off fairly consistently on most maps. Not gonna lie though, the obliviousness of some of my teammates who I was healing got old pretty damned quick, but I'm developing a list of GAFfers who are worth pocketing.
That's the nice thing about medic, no matter how much somebody cries for healing, you have absolutely no obligation to give them shit if they won't help you when you need it (or if they attack your spray pre-match
). Healing good teammates on the other hand can be a wonderful thing.Watched a few of Metaphorically's Spy videos on youtube and he seems easy enough to kill. Uses a lot of the same paths, decloaks in the same areas, doesn't shoot at all when blending in with the opposition. What you need is a proper Spy-checking Pyro.
The problem with being a Spy-checking Pyro is that you forsake a lot of bullshit for the objective of protecting the team; the only time you will get killed is when you move out of support and actively hunt the Spy down. Saw a few too many Pyros getting killed by standing still and not spraying everywhere. All you need is a Pyro who plays like a Medic (i.e. constantly on the move, observant) but keeps their back to the wall during downtime. Also the flanks are exposed and CP maps are a nightmare at times.
The good side of that is you dominate the Spies even though you will be mid-tier on the scoresheet. Also even though the Spy will decloak to get a few headshots with their revolvers if they know they can't get too close to the nucleus due to the Pyro, it gives them up and any teammate can usually find the source of the shots from the sound.
The problem with being a Spy-checking Pyro is that you forsake a lot of bullshit for the objective of protecting the team; the only time you will get killed is when you move out of support and actively hunt the Spy down. Saw a few too many Pyros getting killed by standing still and not spraying everywhere. All you need is a Pyro who plays like a Medic (i.e. constantly on the move, observant) but keeps their back to the wall during downtime. Also the flanks are exposed and CP maps are a nightmare at times.
The good side of that is you dominate the Spies even though you will be mid-tier on the scoresheet. Also even though the Spy will decloak to get a few headshots with their revolvers if they know they can't get too close to the nucleus due to the Pyro, it gives them up and any teammate can usually find the source of the shots from the sound.
ArtistDude88
Member
Last 3 pages of this thread has been about Metaphorically, Spies, and Doucheringers. He has made quite the topic
!
to rage about
ArtistDude88
Member
Argh, I have such a love/hate relationship with the matchmaking servers. It's fun to kick ass and get a ridiculous amount of points, but man I getting to the point where I loathe the people on them. I can understand there's new people, but goddamn. When I take the time to explain something, then totally ignore it... Just really grinds my gears.
Like just now... I was Demo, and the opposite team had 3 sentries I could of easily taken out. I told the Medic on my team I could really use the uber. He gives it to the Heavy, who doesn't kill shit. Next time I say that I could make better use of the uber than the Heavy because I know where the sentries are, etc, etc. He gives it to the Heavy again. Then again. And again. Finally a Spy saps their shit and I quickly ran in and blew them up. Proceeded to cap point, and left the server with twice as many points as anyone else.
Like just now... I was Demo, and the opposite team had 3 sentries I could of easily taken out. I told the Medic on my team I could really use the uber. He gives it to the Heavy, who doesn't kill shit. Next time I say that I could make better use of the uber than the Heavy because I know where the sentries are, etc, etc. He gives it to the Heavy again. Then again. And again. Finally a Spy saps their shit and I quickly ran in and blew them up. Proceeded to cap point, and left the server with twice as many points as anyone else.
tangmaster96
Member
ArtistDude88 said:
Wow when i was knew i took all the advice i could
i quote ron burgundy "The times are a changin"
ArtistDude88
Member
Needless to say I carried this team (Tang had just joined, so he's exempt!). After this round, the teams were scrambled. But the funny thing was, whenever there were 4 Snipers or 4 Spies, I'd yell. "I'M GOING TO BE THE 5TH SPY/SNIPER!". Then I'd go out and slaughter everyone. I ended the map with 198 points, pfft.
HeadlessRoland
Banned
No melee demo versus the pug?! For shame sir, for shame.
ArtistDude88
Member
If there were 4 Demos I would of went 5th Demo! But if we had 4 Demos instead of 4 Snipers or Spies, then we would of probably won a lot quicker in the first place.
HeadlessRoland
Banned
ArtistDude88 said:
I just recently started playing. Been experimenting with demo sword swinging. Got something like 10-14 heads on my claymore and was an unstoppable pug slaying beast.
divisionbyzorro
Member
speedpop said:
I really think that Valve needs to reward spy-checking Pyros more. A single point for exposing an enemy spy using fire would probably be enough. Although, the bonus point for extinguishing teammates doesn't typically convince pyros to puff me out on a regular basis so...maybe not. :/
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
I think valve needs to make flame crit spies more...divisionbyzorro said:
tangmaster96
Member
ArtistDude88 said:
Just got a Noh Mercy drop. Silly drop system. Why you give me so many hats?
Also, I forgot all about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63rxTZfX77g&hd=1
Just watched the other two parts in the replay editor and I think I'm going to edit them and upload them when I get home from work.
Also, I forgot all about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63rxTZfX77g&hd=1
Just watched the other two parts in the replay editor and I think I'm going to edit them and upload them when I get home from work.
HeadlessRoland
Banned
Yeef said:
Ive gotten like 2 hats and 4 pages of other crap...
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I extinguish people!divisionbyzorro said:
JakkuFurosu
Member
The_Technomancer said:
any 1/2 decent pyro would...I find it hard to believe a pyro on gaf server wouldn't extinguish or spy check (unless outta ammo which happens sometimes w/backburner).
You need to update the tf2 price spreadsheet link they redirect now.
UnluckyKate
Member
JackFrost said:
Playing on korean server from here. I'm amazed by how people ditch the Pyro. I'm always the only one. Worst, I don't think they are aware that they can airblast stuff.
JakkuFurosu
Member
UnluckyKate said:
Ive been playing on valve servers (or wherever play now PL dumps me) and tbh im tired of playing pyro but no1 wants to play her. after getting backstabbed and watching the whole team get stabbed right after kinda forces my hand and i hate it (i dont mind pyro, but ive been trying my ass off to learn demo). everyone wants to be sniper/spy.....meh guess thats what all the cool kids are doing....idk
ArtistDude88
Member
JackFrost said:
Yep. Everyone wants to be Sniper or Spy. Regardless if you're offense or defense.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Steel feels so limiting to me. Its one giant series of choke points.
Hooray, most scattergun kills and most flag caps. I feel special.
Also, I was the one person killed by the overdose, haha.
If I'm playing against a team with four snipers and four (bad) spies it is great fun running around the map killing them, especially with no sentries around to ruin my fun. The spies are all obvious and get extremely mad when you find them and the snipers all stand in the same spot no matter how many times I ambush them.
If I'm playing on a team with four snipers and four spies it's time to try a different server.
Also, I was the one person killed by the overdose, haha.
ArtistDude88 said:
If I'm playing against a team with four snipers and four (bad) spies it is great fun running around the map killing them, especially with no sentries around to ruin my fun. The spies are all obvious and get extremely mad when you find them and the snipers all stand in the same spot no matter how many times I ambush them.
If I'm playing on a team with four snipers and four spies it's time to try a different server.
Except for on Jank when at least two of our spies are Meta.
wartime1020
Member
The_Technomancer said:
Really? That isn't my problem with steel. My problem with steel is that it seems many new players don't know the alphabet or can't read a fucking map.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
shaddap and get killed by me more!wartime1020 said:
wartime1020
Member
Kuro Madoushi said:
I have like never claimed to be good, I am glad you think killing me is some sort of big accomplishment.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
D:wartime1020 said:I have like never claimed to be good, I am glad you think killing me is some sort of big accomplishment.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
People want either to show their leet aiming skillz or try to show their mastery of backstabbering instead of working as a team and winning. Why do you think 2fort is so popular?JackFrost said:
HeadlessRoland
Banned
Sgt.Pepper said:
Don't worry after you kill half a dozen of them in one go the entire server will switch to your class.
JakkuFurosu
Member
HeadlessRoland said:
which always does more damage then good.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
That too. I was dominating as a Pyro and then there were other 4 pyros. The only class people don't change to is Medic. Probably the most important class in the damn game lol.HeadlessRoland said:
Grimm Fandango
Member
HeadlessRoland said:
Fucking hate that shit. I'm the only Scout on defense then suddenly 3 more pop up.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
hmm...if this many are on now, anyone wanna get the server going? i can send an invite if there's interest
JakkuFurosu
Member
Kuro Madoushi said:
I would but your a prick.
JK, yeah im just goofing off in payload anyhoo
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
YOU'RE - YOU AREJackFrost said:
YOUR - POSSESSIVE! AS IN I CAN'T HEAR YOU CAUSE YOUR MOM'S LEGS ARE BETWEEN MY HEAD!
JakkuFurosu
Member
Kuro Madoushi said:
gross
and kinda impossible
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I guess. I don't expect more than 8 people on it though.Kuro Madoushi said:
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
ehhh we'll give it a try
CornBurrito
Member
Kuro Madoushi said:
At least you can't use The Enforcer and the Saharan Spy set at the same time.
Everyone is praising Meta, and he's a great spy, but Artist is the original rage-inducing spy. A few days ago we were on Barnblitz, he joins the last point on defense, and then he jumped to the top of the scoreboard with like 40 points in a mere matter of minutes. Plus Big Kill > Enforcer.
CornBurrito
Member
Forkball said:
Metaphorically works magic with the shitty knife/backstab hitboxes. He's the only spy I've ever seen that could manage to backstab you while you are facing directly at him.
What pisses me off is that I'll be a Medic, and I fucking notice him. If by some miracle another team member notices and attacks him they WONT CHECK THEIR FUCKING KILL COUNT and will then just leave after "killing him" while I feel obligated to run away from the battle to hunt him down.
What's worse is when my teammates "kill" him, walk the fuck away, and then moments later I hear a loud piercing scream. Am I the only one that can hear the scream, because oftentimes Metaphorically will get chain stabs and I just don't get how. If you hear a goddamn scream TURN THE FUCK AROUND.