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[Interceptor]

I feel pity too but I dont blame the entire french society for the views of ultra nationalists. I dont compartmentalize and I dont generalize, I see the people who hate and only view them as haters not their families and friends who share the same goals of society as free but in a better way. If you looked in that lens to Muslims you would also only blame radicalists not the religion. As I said before. Blame the rotten Apple, not the fruit

French society shares a border, a belief shares a border in your mind. I make fun of the border in peoples minds. There is a difference. Deal with it.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

This is the kind of attack I'm MUCH more fearful of than a plane or a bomb.

I'm stunned this hasn't happened here in the states yet.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I don't understand the Islam religion. Wasn't the whole thing with Mohammed was that he didn't want to be worshipped and he emphasized that he's just a messenger for the real god who you should worship? But many of these people seem to just worship him anyways? Am I missing something?

you are beginning to understand why they are extremists and wandered off islam

French society shares a border, a belief shares a border in your mind. I make fun of the border in peoples minds. There is a difference. Deal with it.

I deal with love for everyone. I dont hate and generalize like some people

 

[marrec]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

I wish I had more time to discuss with you just how ignorant you really are of the vast majority of the people you're lambasting.

Instead I will just use your post as an example of why many of us conflate islamophobia with racism. Because people like you tie islamic extremism with national identity and place of birth.

 

[Irminsul]

They were filmed shouting their motivations on video...

Err, do you mean the part about "avenging the prophet" against Charlie Hebdo? Because I didn't say anything to the contrary, in fact, I did say that these specific attacks aren't really a good basis to talk about Western meddling in the Middle East as they were targeting caricatures; Maninthemirror disagreed with that notion and that's why I asked him why he knew the motivations.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

I don't really agree the Thirty Years War was entirely about religion. I think in large part it was about the power of the Habsburg dynasty within the Holy Roman Empire (and the strength of the Holy Roman Empire as an entity) and beyond, certainly that's what it was about towards the end of the Thirty Years War anyway.

Sure, but the Treaty of Westphalia was put together to end the constant meddling in the internal affairs of other sovereign states in Europe, a large aspect of which concerned the religious character of states.

 

[thelatestmodel]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

This post is a disgrace to Canada. Fuck off eh.

 

[DrGonzo615]

I'm generalizing here, but since so many European countries already ban speech like hate speech and Holocaust denial, why is "images of Muhammad" the line they refuse to cross? I mean, as an ardent free speech advocate, I'm glad they have a line they won't cross, but I don't get why that's the hill they chose to literally die on.

Nobody ran around with AK-47s or blew themselves up to prevent hate speech and holocaust denial.

I cant believe I have to actually type out this distinction. Those are laws that a civilized society came to enact and not something they were bullied into by thugs and murdering cowards.

 

[FlyingSaucer]

I'm generalizing here, but since so many European countries already ban speech like hate speech and Holocaust denial, why is "images of Muhammad" the line they refuse to cross? I mean, as an ardent free speech advocate, I'm glad they have a line they won't cross, but I don't get why that's the hill they chose to literally die on.

I don't even begin to understand how you can put on an equal footing a genocide with satire.

 

[Interceptor]

you are beginning to understand why they are extremists and wandered off islam



I deal with love for everyone. I dont hate and generalize like some people

The irony is strong in this one. ^^

 

[Funky Papa]

Who the hell is we? The terrorists argument of 'because western countries are democracies all their citizens should be held responsible for the actions of their governments and therefore are legitimate targets' is right? Because now that's bullshit.

"We" as "in the nations that foolishly invaded those countries" and created a bigger mess.

The rest is indeed bullshit and I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth.

 

[victreeb3l]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

Haha wow. Let us know how you really feel.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

eh? really?

The irony is strong in this one. ^^

So you think I hate?

 

[sammich]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

You are an utter embarasment.

 

[BaronLundi]

Good job on the censoring NYdailynews

 

[ComputerMKII]

"Tragic Bullets/Ball at Charlie Hebdo - 12 Dead"

This is a reference to the infamous 1970 Hara-Kiri headline ("Tragic ball at Colombey - 1 dead") reporting on former President Charles de Gaulle's passing, which occurred as several people in his hometown got killed in a fire during a ball. Hara-Kiri was subsequently banned and its authors revived it under the name Charlie Hebdo.

 

[Dennis]

Sums up what is at stake nicely.

 

[Arksy]

Speaking of which, Angela Merkel, chancellor of a country that doesn't have free speech and freedom of the press, was talking about how these principles must be defended.

 

[metalslimer]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

Goodbye, and you won't be missed

 

[Alx]

I don't understand the Islam religion. Wasn't the whole thing with Mohammed was that he didn't want to be worshipped and he emphasized that he's just a messenger for the real god who you should worship? But many of these people seem to just worship him anyways? Am I missing something?

It's true, but the common issue with religious extremists is they're taking their holy texts too literally, without trying to understand their true meaning.

 

[liger05]

@24news_EN have said IS has claimed responsibility calling it revenge.

 

[chadskin]

Speaking of which, Angela Merkel, chancellor of a country that doesn't have free speech and freedom of the press, was talking about how these principles must be defended.

Go back to RT, please.

 

[iceatcs]

Good job on the censoring NYdailynews

That's really shame.

 

[Doc Holliday]

 

[thelatestmodel]

Good job on the censoring NYdailynews

I can't stand this. Everyone should be showing the cartoons now. Bombard the little shits with cartoons, don't censor them more.

 

[slit]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

Wow and Canadians are supposed to be such nice people.

 

[metalslimer]

@24news_EN have said IS has claimed responsibility calling it revenge.

The anti immigration sentiment is going to swell, so I hope these fuckers are happy, not that they seem to feel any emotions.

Edit: And censoring those cartoons are terrible.

 

[esms]

Speaking as a Muslim and with full transparency, I can tell you that what you're suggesting will never happen.

The religion is too lost in it's ways. Culture oppresses anyone from speaking out loudly. Yes you'll have the few speak out living in the western world, but the people that live in the muslim world cannot freely speak out. Too much fear, oppression, and of course being targeted afterwards.

It's terrible really.

So we stop engaging the Middle East and North Africa for the foreseeable future until the whole area cools down or destroys itself? This has always been my preferred strategy, but, as a Muslim, I'd like your take.

Is there any reasonable hope to engage diplomatically, not just with governments, but with the people of these countried as well, to stifle the recruiting prowess of radical Islamic elements?

 

[Grizzo]

It's in a suburb a few kilometers away. It's unrelated apparently, probably a car malfunction;

Its france alright (road signs)

This is apparently an accident in Sarcelles and totally unrelated.

Yeah that's what I figured. Looked more like a suburb. Thanks for the clarification!

 

[SmokyDave]

I can't stand this. Everyone should be showing the cartoons now. Bombard the fuckers with them, don't censor them more.

Nobody is going to show them. The dirty secret is that excessively violent repercussions can sometimes work.

 

[thelatestmodel]

Wow and Canadians are supposed to be the nice ones.

As a Brit living in Canada I can tell you that this individual is the exception. They are usually very very nice and level-headed. Anyway, ignore him and carry on.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Err, do you mean the part about "avenging the prophet" against Charlie Hebdo? Because I didn't say anything to the contrary, in fact, I did say that these specific attacks aren't really a good basis to talk about Western meddling in the Middle East as they were targeting caricatures; Maninthemirror disagreed with that notion and that's why I asked him why he knew the motivations.

Oh, OK, sorry.

 

[Marauder Shields]

I need to stop reading Twitter when there are imbeciles like this:
https://twitter.com/sururi_slayer/status/552857411464478720

The sad thing is I know as many people who will support these attacks as to those who will denounce them.

 

[Despera]

Good job on the censoring NYdailynews

Didn't know Mogadishu was a country.

 

[UnrealEck]

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

 

[Kinyou]

Good job on the censoring NYdailynews

If they're going to censor it then they shouldn't show this picture at all. This is just saying "were scared of terrorists and do what they demand"

 

[Volimar]

Probably not related, but while we're thinking about people killed by terrorists, might want to include these folks.

http://news.yahoo.com/car-bomb-explodes-outside-police-college-yemen-044232191.html


Car bomb kills 30 outside police college in Yemen.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Speaking of which, Angela Merkel, chancellor of a country that doesn't have free speech and freedom of the press, was talking about how these principles must be defended.

Germany doesn't have freedom of speech? Why did they allow all those PEGIDA marches then?

 

[Stet]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

Here in Canada, we don't tolerate this kind of crap.

 

[maquiladora]

Good job on the censoring NYdailynews

By doing this, they are elevating these cartoons to the level of something which is somehow so "bad" that the public shouldn't see it. This is playing into the attackers hands and the media in this case is acting is if the cartoon would be offensive to the average person and not just a tiny, violent minority of people who are religious extremists.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Err, do you mean the part about "avenging the prophet" against Charlie Hebdo? Because I didn't say anything to the contrary, in fact, I did say that these specific attacks aren't really a good basis to talk about Western meddling in the Middle East as they were targeting caricatures; Maninthemirror disagreed with that notion and that's why I asked him why he knew the motivations.

Oh I didnt disagree it was because of the caricatures, I was referring to the phobic people creating opportunities like ultra nationalists in the wake of this

 

[LNBL]

Just saw this cartoon on Twitter, don't know if it has been posted yet.

 

[victreeb3l]

I need to stop reading Twitter when there are imbeciles like this:
https://twitter.com/sururi_slayer/status/552857411464478720

This guy is a fucking idiot and so are all that think like him.

I also have too many tweets in my timeline posting really bigoted anti islamic stuff as well. This day is just going to be a clusterfuck, going to stay away from social media.

 

[GalacticSushiman]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

As a French man I am shocked by what just happened, as a Canadian resident I am appalled by such a short sighted reaction.

 

[metalslimer]

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

Disagree with this quote. Brainwashing can certainly occur without religion.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Just saw this cartoon on Twitter, don't know if it has been posted yet.

This is a great cartoon

 

[Daemul]

Here in Canada, as of 2012. 2 countries in our top 10 immigration list are places that have high amounts of these scums.

4th place : Pakistan
7th place : Iran

People bitch and moan here against those people, yet we have our doors open to them all wide open. That top 10 is calculated to be 56% of the entire immigration. The rest of our 44% is from other countries and i imagine that many more of them idiots get in from there.

Where I live we have 1 church, and 12 mosques... eventually we will get overrun by these Muslim, Islamic, Radical people.

Why people hate these groups is simple, they follow a religion that treats woman like shit and have fuck up views and ways.

And stop fucking eating shawarmas lol, i betcha some of those are put in place to make money and send that cash back to the terrorist groups. There are more shawarma places than McDonalds here.

What the fuck is this?

 

[His Majesty]

Any ideology combined with heavy weaponry is a threat to our freedoms. Religions deserve criticism and satire indeed, but our disrespect? Poorly chosen wording, what about tolerance?

 

[ComputerMKII]

Probably not related, but while we're thinking about people killed by terrorists, might want to include these folks.

http://news.yahoo.com/car-bomb-explodes-outside-police-college-yemen-044232191.html


Car bomb kills 30 outside police college in Yemen.

RIP...

 

[Gustav]

Germany doesn't have freedom of speech? Why did they allow all those PEGIDA marches then?

Well, none of them is saying "Heil Hitler".