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Tesla Model 3 - OT - The cheap one

Is there any external badge on the car that differentiates between the two versions? I couldn't see anything on the various release photos. Since they never discussed battery capacity in terms of kWh, I doubt they use that as the identifier... but perhaps they have an LR badge or something to identify the long range version.

Also, I wonder if the dual motor version will be identified as a "P" performance model. I'm really debating waiting for the dual motor, but that's another bump to the price. I'm a SoCal resident, so I don't need it for snow or anything, but I would like the improved performance / acceleration.

To keep the branding consistent, I can't imagine they won't keep the numeric indicator for battery size and "D" for dual motor variants in place. "P" is for performance, which is separate from dual motor. There will probably be a performance version as well down the road.

So since this car has no HUD or instrument cluster, you can't see how fast you're going unless you look to your right? crazyyy.

Lots of cars have center-mount gauges. The speed indicator on the LCD for the Model 3 is at the very top-left, and not that far out of the way when looki forward.

I think Tesla was planning on a HUD at some point, but it didn't pan out and it's easier to just lean on "but Autopilot" in the meantime.
 

toohectic

Member
To keep the branding consistent, I can't imagine they won't keep the numeric indicator for battery size and "D" for dual motor variants in place. "P" is for performance, which is separate from dual motor. There will probably be a performance version as well down the road.

I agree that it makes sense that they would maintain a consistent naming convention. But is that naming convention presented with a badge on the outside of the vehicle like the Model S and X? It doesn't appear like it is.
 

Ty4on

Member
It's fun to see the Model 3 videos and recognize a whole bunch of tech and Tesla YouTubers in one place.
You can see the real Tesla fans swooning over door pockets lol

Goes to see how good the entry level interiors are too, but I think they can really one up the competition with interior quality and design. Especially as that's the Bolt's Achilles's heel. I'm not a big fan of the single screen, but overall the interior seems like a great place to be in and it still looks like a premium Tesla on the outside.

Edit: regarding dash Toyota Prius have a central dashboard and speedometer and you don't exactly see them speeding all the time
 

rinker

Member
Anyone have experience with a model s rwd in snow? I really want dual motors, but don't think I can pass up the tax credit... will be a tough call. The model 3 would be my only car so it's not like I could switch in the snow.
 

mcfrank

Member
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Oh god, how can I drive the Mini Cooper? I'll have to look to the right to see my speed! Cops will have a field day! Oh god!
 

MercuryLS3

Junior Member
I just bought a Honda Civic 2016 that i will drive for quite a while, hopefully by the time i want to upgrade to this the price comes down considerably and the charging infrastructure is much more robust.
 

Doodis

Member
To keep the branding consistent, I can't imagine they won't keep the numeric indicator for battery size and "D" for dual motor variants in place. "P" is for performance, which is separate from dual motor. There will probably be a performance version as well down the road.
They've said they're going away from the kwh numeric indicators with the Model 3 because it confused the general population. They just want to know how many miles it can go, so they have a standard range and a long range. No numeric badging on the car. They have stated there will be a performance version later in 2018.

Anyone have experience with a model s rwd in snow? I really want dual motors, but don't think I can pass up the tax credit... will be a tough call. The model 3 would be my only car so it's not like I could switch in the snow.
Dual motors was the one upgrade I wanted since it's snowy here in the winter, but I can't pass up the tax credit either. That said, Tesla used to tout the great performance of their RWD in snow before they released AWD. I think it'll be just fine with snow tires:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS9uDJGi52A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxR99bGYEAQ
 

Doodis

Member
Shouldn't the dual motors AWD have a tad more range? I thought two motors make the car more efficient.
They do bump up the range slightly for the Model S and X. I'd wager that since they haven't gone into production yet, they're probably not exactly sure what that range bump will be so they're playing it safe and leaving the range as is on the site.
 
I'm so angry my country's government hates everything electrical or renewable and does zero effort to give electric cars the infrastructure they need.


So jealous after seeing this.
 

ascii42

Member
So, what's the best way to maximize the tax credit?

Get the car as early as possible. Beyond that, owe $7500 on taxes the year you buy it, which I imagine most people who can afford a Model 3 will. Unless they are making crazy contributions to tax deferred accounts or taking a business loss or something.
 

TarNaru33

Banned
So since this car has no HUD or instrument cluster, you can't see how fast you're going unless you look to your right? crazyyy.

I personally don't get why everyone keeps freaking out about this since it only takes a quick move of the eye to glance the number and a good driver doesn't need to check it that much.
 

CFMOORE!

Member
I personally don't get why everyone keeps freaking out about this since it only takes a quick move of the eye to glance the number and a good driver doesn't need to check it that much.

yeah. it's super minor. with all things disruptive to the norm, it will just require people to actually experience it to realize it's barely a thing.
 

GTI Guy

Member
I wonder how this is all going to play out in regards to priority for people who choose long range vs standard. For example if I am let's say 50,000 in the line based upon reservation order and I choose to go with standard. It is my understanding that there are about 500k preorders right now. If 300,000 people want long range am I put at the back of that line? And furthermore if people start preordering today or hell a month from now do those get priority over me if they choose long range? I can see this, in theory, becoming a problem especially considering the tax credit. I suppose no one here really knows but it has me thinking about going with long range vs standard.
 

n0razi

Member
Really hope this kickstarts the electric revolution. Not sure about all the bullshit with no control over driving. I mean come on now. I want to drive myself sometimes when not going to work.

Its like universal healthcare... it will be ideal once every car is autonomous... no more traffic and accidents
 

DrEvil

not a medical professional
Well. Ontario gives 14k, I'm waiting for AWD and will likely (hopefully) have about $20k saved up by the time they release in Canada in "late 2018". If I can get the purchase price down to about 45k after my down payment and rebate I'll be very happy.

Want awd and extended range. This car got expensive fast lol.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
Get the car as early as possible. Beyond that, owe $7500 on taxes the year you buy it, which I imagine most people who can afford a Model 3 will. Unless they are making crazy contributions to tax deferred accounts or taking a business loss or something.
That's what I want to see. How much of a difference it would make if I did get the credit. There doesn't seem to be an estimator/calculator around. 🙄
 

gwarm01

Member
That's a disgusting interior. Any car with a speedo in the middle belongs in the junk yard.
The Mini has a digital speed display in the little screen behind the wheel. For what it's worth, I never looked at the giant central speedometer when driving my Mini.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Does the tablet recede into the dash or is it fixed like that?
 
Well. Ontario gives 14k, I'm waiting for AWD and will likely (hopefully) have about $20k saved up by the time they release in Canada in "late 2018". If I can get the purchase price down to about 45k after my down payment and rebate I'll be very happy.

Want awd and extended range. This car got expensive fast lol.

Yeah, I'm fucking praying that Ontario doesn't change the incentive anytime soon. AWD are releasing in Fall 2018, and who knows where the industry is at that time.
 

SpecX

Member
I hope these do well and reviews come back positive. I'm liking how this car is shaping up, but that tablet in the center of the dash kills the interior for me. Maybe a mid-cycle refresh will give it a better layout/placement. If they nail it with the quality and updated dash, I could see myself in one of these by 2020, I just hope the mall expands on how many chargers they offer by then as I see the lot filling up already and this model will pretty much solidify there not being any space available.
 

mcfrank

Member
I hope these do well and reviews come back positive. I'm liking how this car is shaping up, but that tablet in the center of the dash kills the interior for me. Maybe a mid-cycle refresh will give it a better layout/placement. If they nail it with the quality and updated dash, I could see myself in one of these by 2020, I just hope the mall expands on how many chargers they offer by then as I see the lot filling up already and this model will pretty much solidify there not being any space available.

Seems like people who ride in the car are liking it. From that same bloomberg article:

Stepping inside the cabin, I quickly realized that my assumptions had been all wrong. I've seen a lot of spy shots of Model 3 prototypes online, and the interiors always appeared to be flat, spartan, and lifeless. Not so. The lack of gauges on the narrow dash is refreshing. The solid strip of open-pore wood gives the space warmth, and the glass roof makes the the cabin feel like an atrium. The forward field of vision—uninterrupted by knobs, lights, and levers—is expansive.

Tesla is getting better at building cars. Unlike early versions of the Model S and X, the Model 3 is built to be a daily driver, with plenty of cupholders, door pockets, and console storage. The materials of the arm rests and doors feel ready for abuse. And the stitched synthetic material used for the premium seats is different than leather, but not inferior.
 
One problem though, you must use Bluetooth or the NFC card since the model 3 doesn't come with an actual key!

You know what? I see the reasoning behind why this was done, and it makes sense when displayed

Tesla wants Model 3 to be a ride-sharing vehicle once it goes full autonomous. Want to avoid random bystanders to jump in your car, and only want to give access to the customer who requested the car? Require them to tap their NFC phone to verify and gain access to the car.
 
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