Really? How about when you don't want your car to be 90 degrees? Is there a sunroof?
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Tesla Model 3 will be revealed on March 31st
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And this is why choices are good for consumers. Although, Im surprised anyone would find that design appealing. There a good looking hatches. That is not one.
To each their own. Hatches don't say "$35k car" the way sedans do and the handling dynamics of a longer foot-printed RWD are more to my liking.
DrGonzo615
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I think he was joking but after reading some of the nonsense in here...I honestly dont know.
Shogmaster
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The future designs will make you feel uneasy. That is nature of progress.
As one of my teachers told me in car design school (yes. I actually went to one), if you feel totally comfortable with your design, you are not breaking any new ground.
The entire roofline is one, long panoramic sunroof.
It's spring loaded too, I believe.
it's April 1 where I live
DrGonzo615
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Lol, ugly cars=progress!
I dont think the Model 3 is ugly...somewhat bland perhaps but not ugly
Unknown Soldier
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I know that.
Shogmaster
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And so is ugly. ^_^
EatinOlives
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Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck
I need this car immediately. In my garage. Immediately.
Grabbed this at the end.
dem door handles
Pretty sure those are renders on stock backgrounds.
Unknown Soldier
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The thing about the lack of grill criticism isn't that it's a vestige of a particular engine design.
To me, the criticism stems from the fact that for the most part, a car with a grill looks anthropomorphically correct. It has a "mouth". No grill means no "mouth" and that makes people uneasy because it looks less human.
Not sure I agree with that at all. Attractiveness is somewhat subjective and cultural, but not entirely.
That is why things like good architecture, good art and components of human beauty are timeless.
Plenty of new cars coming down the pipe are beautiful. For instance the Jaguar XE is a gorgeous vehicle. The Tesla S was jaw dropping to me on reveal. This? Not as much. But it isnt that far away from being beautiful with a few tinkerings. Whether they will happen or not is a different story.
Yeah the black one is sexy as fuck.
Marty Chinn
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I didn't mind the look of the car at the unveiling but this pic here makes it looked like it was front and rear ended. Looks less appealing in this specific one.
I don't have that vibe and I find it amazing in this shot. It's sexier than what I saw live.
DrGonzo615
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Have they said if the base will be FWD or RWD?
Fooled me for sure, though I'm viewing on my phone.
Shogmaster
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I do love designing a good facia on a car, and a face needs a mouth. Most would have designed a mouth, as Chevy Bolt team has done, for the sake of visual comfort. I applaud tesla team for saying fuck you to that.
Maybe a new paradigm for a facia design is needed in the age of electric car design. A big mouth has alway's been a car designers' favorite crutch in designing car facias.
Shogmaster
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Electric car design is a brand new thing. You can't use the same crutches you are use to in designing ICE cars. No hood vents and scoops, no big grilles, no cool tail-pipes, no NACA ducts, etc... I will miss those things but using them in electric car design is fundamentally ridiculous notion.
Again Porsche seems to manage fine with no huge gaping mouth.
It's funny to see this compared to the panamera though, that one does have a big grill and is fugly.
There's no way around this unfortunately unless you want to compromise on practicality and interior space. The Model S avoids this because it's a much bigger car with more room to work with.
The other end of this extreme is the Fisker Karma. Possibly the most beautiful car ever made but it's classified as a subcompact despite taking up more room than most full-size cars.
Unknown Soldier
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It's very futuristic. It also probably won't have a headphone jack, instead relying solely on Bluetooth for playing music from your iPhone to your car's stereo system.
Shogmaster
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Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Bluetooth is so garbage. Perhaps Apple's new standard will be implemented. There's still time.
Unknown Soldier
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The Model S and X both have mouths though. It seems strange that Tesla would start designing cars without mouths now, instead of with the earlier models.
My understanding of the S is that the mouth serves an aerodynamic and cooling purpose, so it has actual engineering reason for existing.
Shogmaster
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If you look at S to X to 3, you can see the mouth going, going, gone. It's evolution of a team's electric car design philosophy.
Which Porsche? Mission E? That has a huge gaping mouth at the very bottom.
I was thinking more 911s and caymans. It does look like the tesla does have a small opening (for battery cooling?) about the same size as the e.
I think it's more the strange "nose" shape of the tesla that is throwing me more than lack of a big mouth.
Unknown Soldier
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Bluetooth 3.0/4.0 have supported direct bitstreaming in the protocol for years now. It's up to the manufacturers of the Bluetooth transmitting and receiving devices to support it, so you can just bitstream your MP3/AAC/FLAC from your phone to the car which has the proper hardware to decode the bitstream and play it back. This is how DLNA works for instance, not that anyone uses it because of how awful that is.
Crutches? Bro, aesthetics are aesthetics. The Model 3, like every car before it, is designing their vehicles to be visually appealing.
There are certain hard and fast rules for that, other things are more subjective and require experimentation.
Just removing a grill is not some necessary shift, something radically new or the lack of me liking it is because I can't yet appreciate a car without a grill. I mean are you familiar with the Ford Model A? The BMW 700? Lets be serious here. Cars without grills were not invented by Elon Muck on March 31st 2016.
shinshoryuken
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Riiiiight...this design looks like it's will be outdated real fast.
Theres a lot of cars out right now that are gorgeous. The model 3 just look meh.
The design is not breaking new grounds at all, it's way too safe. A small model S with
out a grill...
Shogmaster
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That ridge does feel like a vestige of a grille. It will probably disappear in the next model, lol.
BTW. GM's EV1 had no nothing.
Funny enough, the concept version had two huge intakes.
Unknown Soldier
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Ah, I didn't realize that. Is there still a need for forced air through the engine compartment to cool something in these electric cars?
Yeah, I did notice that the S has a :O but the X has only a
. The 3 is the first one which is just : though, it's not even :|
DrGonzo615
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I think this is the real rub right here. The car looks like it was designed for a grill there and just didnt cut one out, making the car look unfinished.
Shogmaster
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Their new ground is the proportion, and lack of grille. Those wheels are pushed out the edge, and the car looks like proportionally squeezed Model S. I haven't seen such proportions in production car. It's more akin to toy car proportions.
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