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Tesla Model 3 will be revealed on March 31st

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Doodis

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Hopefully autonomous driving related. I imagine there will also be some pretty wild interior features if this thing starts being able to drive itself, ie, heads up display.

These two things (autonomous driving tech and heads-up display) were exactly what I was hoping for when I read the tweet.

Also, my email just came in (about 29 hours after I ordered) for those still waiting.

The car desperately needs that faux-grill that the Model S. Perhaps Tesla opted not to in order for the latter to appear more luxurious?

I've said this before, but I think the nose looks better without the grille. The only reason it's there in the first place is to cool the engine. There's no use for it now. People are just used to seeing them since, well, every other car has needed one. But when you no longer need it, why keep it around?
 

Bsigg12

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\Hopefully autonomous driving related. I imagine there will also be some pretty wild interior features if this thing starts being able to drive itself, ie, heads up display.

I do expect both. With Auto-Pilot already working surprisingly well in the Model S, I fully expect a major announcement regarding autonomous driving at their next press event.
 

elfinke

Member
Bit of a tangent, but I meant to mention this earlier, regarding the pre-order aspect, how it is a somewhat odd thing for some people. Myself included in some ways.

Here in Australia we're about to lose two homegrown cars from our local car manufacturers (and indeed both manufacturers altogether), the Ford Falcon and the Holden Commodore. The last ever performance models of the Falcon sold out in days, and the waiting list to get one is months long. More poignantly, the immediate replacement for the XR8 Falcon is the Mustang. Right now, if you order a v8 one you won't take delivery until 2018, or late 2017 (depending on options etc.)

Obviously it's not totally the same thing (everyone knows what a Mustang is, the Miami v8 is a known engine etc.), however I just wanted to put it out there as another example of pre-ordering cars that aren't scheduled for delivery until well into the future, and how it isn't necessarily that odd.
 

Havok1313

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If you cant afford a $1,000 deposit on a 35K+ car you shouldnt be buying it. Its also refundable before signing the purchase contract.

Exactly lol. I don't even have a high-paying job really, but I've been very good about saving the last several years. This would be literally my only luxury outside of video games.

Plus you have 2 years to think about it, even if you were fairly early in reserving, because let's face it. This thing is not coming out on schedule.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Roger Pressman came away impressed.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3962630-teslas-model-3-event

After seeing the Tesla Model 3, it very, very hard not to like Tesla Motors, given the market response to the launch of the vehicle. The company got 180,000 reservations for the car in less than 24 hours. More importantly, Tesla achieved this without any formal advertising campaign. More important than that, the reservations were accompanied by a $1,000 deposit. And to put icing on the cake, the vast majority of the reservations were submitted by relatively young consumers. Anecdotal evidence from an evaluation of those who stood in long lines at Tesla stores indicates the typical reservation holder appears to be about 28-to-42 years of age. That's a pivotal demographic for the automotive segment and could help establish a lifetime allegiance to the brand.

When an automotive company offers a $35K base price vehicle with: (1) the looks of a premium mid-size, (2) the driving performance of a luxury vehicle, (3) a price point that is generally encountered for more hum-drum cars, (4) technology that is considerably more advanced than comparably-sized premium internal combustion engine [ICE] vehicles, and at the same time taps into the environmental consciousness of a new generation of automotive buyers, it very quickly becomes a major player in mass market vehicles.

Many have suggested that battery electric vehicles [BEVs] are a niche market, that a small number of buyers will have interest, that overall sales will grow slowly and never be significant. Thursday's reveal of the Tesla Model 3 belies that notion. When 180,000 Gen X, Gen Y and millennials plunk down a thousand bucks for a car they've never seen or seen only in a photo, something very important is happening.

In my view, the Model 3 presents a direct and significant challenge to those ICE vehicles. In fact, when versions of the Model 3 are purchased with extended options and features, it might be reasonable to ask whether this BEV might challenge ICE vehicles one class above those mentioned.

An investor who doesn't consider the disruptive effect of the Tesla Model 3 and focuses solely on the current financials of the company is, in my view, missing a major element of Tesla's growth trajectory. Tesla Motors has already established a solid premium brand

haters am cry.
 
I do expect both. With Auto-Pilot already working surprisingly well in the Model S, I fully expect a major announcement regarding autonomous driving at their next press event.

the car will not have a HUD unfortunately which was confirmed by another test drive video. Big disappointment that this is the case
 

giga

Member
Anyone want to do a mockup? I want to see if the empty front could be improved by putting the logo there instead of on the hood.

tesla-model-3-1-of-12.jpg
 

DrEvil

not a medical professional
If you preordered but didn't get an email, check mytesla.com with the email you registered with, it should show your confirmation. Mine is there.

Got in at 10:24pm, and it's there.
 
This is a slick-looking car. If I didn't live in an apartment, I'd be all over this. I just need a reliable way to charge this thing every night.
 

giga

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So I live in a condo, so I can't really install anything for overnight charging. But there's a super charging station literally 5 min away from me. Would that seem like a reasonable workaround to use that every week? Plus, I wouldn't have to pay for the power.
 
So I live in a condo, so I can't really install anything for overnight charging. But there's a super charging station literally 5 min away from me. Would that seem like a reasonable workaround to use that every week? Plus, I wouldn't have to pay for the power.

Not at all as long as you don't mind the inconvenience and can preoccupy yourself for ~60 minutes.
 
So I live in a condo, so I can't really install anything for overnight charging. But there's a super charging station literally 5 min away from me. Would that seem like a reasonable workaround to use that every week? Plus, I wouldn't have to pay for the power.
Super charging isn't recommended to use all that often, drains the overall life of the battery quicker.

You should check for alternatives

Edit: after some quick research, nevermind. Supercharging whenever is fine.
 
Quoting this for a new page.

Tesla lost $1 billion dollars last year, including $320 million last quarter, they only have about $1 billion cash on hand, and it's possible the EV tax credits may expire for them before they deliver a single Model 3. Oh, and they have a history of not meeting deadlines, too.

They did have to build a gigafactory to crank out batteries. That is where their money primarily went as I understand. It is an investment that will pay off in the next 3 years and will then become a profit fountain.
 

Omlagus

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Just got my confirmation email, so I guess I entered the address right after all! Lol.

About 21 hours after reservation.
 

giga

Member
Not at all as long as you don't mind the inconvenience and can preoccupy yourself for ~60 minutes.

Super charging isn't recommended to use all that often, drains the overall life of the battery quicker.

You should check for alternatives

Edit: after some quick research, nevermind. Supercharging whenever is fine.

Oh hell yeah. Really close to putting down a deposit now. ⚡️
 
So I live in a condo, so I can't really install anything for overnight charging. But there's a super charging station literally 5 min away from me. Would that seem like a reasonable workaround to use that every week? Plus, I wouldn't have to pay for the power.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, you can't use the Super Chargers too much/too often. Rapid charging of batteries degrade batteries much more quickly.

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Yeah they need to work on that screen, shit is cluttered and hard to look at. The S had an awesome layout.

Yup. Agreed. The layout of the interior needs to be re-designed.

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I'd be willing to pay a little extra for a dedicated instrument cluster screen behind the steering wheel.

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Can we use an extension cord from home to charge the battery or is installing a charging station in your garage a must?

I'm pretty sure you can use a standard 110v outlet to charge the Teslas. It would just take much longer. Like 2x the time.
 

alba

Little is the new Big
Dear tesla,

Don't touch the grill and don't touch the screen. They both look great.

I agree, I'm sure there will be revisions and the UI of the screen will get better and what not but yeah both look great.

I'm thinking they might end up adding a small thing behind the wheel or something because some people just won't like it at all, lol.
 

harSon

Banned
The car looks pretty hideous to me. Not a fan of the lack of a grill, and the short back end looks pretty ugly as well. The only profile I like of the car is the top....
 

duderon

rollin' in the gutter
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, you can't use the Super Chargers too much/too often. Rapid charging of batteries degrade batteries much more quickly.

Edit:


Yup. Agreed. The layout of the interior needs to be re-designed.

Edit 2:
I'd be willing to pay a little extra for a dedicated instrument cluster screen behind the steering wheel.

Edit 3:


I'm pretty sure you can use a standard 110v outlet to charge the Teslas. It would just take much longer. Like 2x the time.

Doesn't hurt to supercharge often, but Tesla doesn't want people using supercharging as their main source for electricity because it clogs the stalls up for others. It is meant for long distance travel, primarily.

Charging with a 110v outlet vs a 240v takes substantially longer. Using Model S as an example, people will get around 30 mph using 240v, but only around 3 mph using a 110v outlet. It's all about the amps.
 

mf.luder

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I'm on team "interior must still be under development".

I'm also on team "I like the interior as it is".

I don't a shit about a fucking grill. It's a new movement in cars and let's move on.
 

PG2G

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So I live in a condo, so I can't really install anything for overnight charging. But there's a super charging station literally 5 min away from me. Would that seem like a reasonable workaround to use that every week? Plus, I wouldn't have to pay for the power.

Seems like it'd be a major annoyance to me. Range is already an issue, I can't imagine having to deal with superchargers for anything other than long distance trips. You really want to spend 30+ minutes at a supercharger because you need some more juice to go to work or to go out?

I wouldn't even consider one of these cars without the ability to charge it at home. Domt let gadget last force your hand on such an expensive purchase.
 
Charging with a 110v outlet vs a 240v takes substantially longer. Using Model S as an example, people will get around 30 mph using 240v, but only around 3 mph using a 110v outlet. It's all about the amps.
Damn, that's quite a curve. Since Model 3's batteries are smaller, can we assume roughly 5mph charge using 110v? If that's the case, then over a 12 hour period inside garage that can give about 60 miles.
 
I'm standing here at the pump while gas goes in my car and all I can think about is how I wish I had my damn Model 3 now so I didn't have to go to the damn gas station anymore

The wait until late 2017 is going to be unbearable.
 

Argyle

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Damn, that's quite a curve. Since Model 3's batteries are smaller, can we assume roughly 5mph charge using 110v? If that's the case, then over a 12 hour period inside garage that can give about 60 miles.

It really depends on the miles per kwh efficiency. Teslas out now IIRC are a little less efficient than say, a Leaf, but of course this is a new model so we don't really know.

I'd say a decent ballpark is about 4 miles per hour of level 1 (110v) charging.

I wouldn't buy an EV if you don't have some way to charge at level 2 (240v).
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
The car looks pretty hideous to me. Not a fan of the lack of a grill, and the short back end looks pretty ugly as well. The only profile I like of the car is the top....
Yea but you have no taste, I'd expect nothing less from a stealers fan, so there's that
 

mf.luder

Member
It really depends on the miles per kwh efficiency. Teslas out now IIRC are a little less efficient than say, a Leaf, but of course this is a new model so we don't really know.

I'd say a decent ballpark is about 4 miles per hour of level 1 (110v) charging.

I wouldn't buy an EV if you don't have some way to charge at level 2 (240v).

You're able to purchase a supercharger outlet for your house, correct?
 

mf.luder

Member
No. The super charger charges much faster than a 240 home outlet. But a 240 will be plenty to charge the car over night.

I just looked on their site, I was confused. I thought the wall charger was a supercharger.

Definitely going to have to pick up a wall charger once I get mine.
 
The car industry is about to get iPhoned. I hope.

Nah, Apple hasn't announced the Apple Car yet


I'm not going to lie, it looks a lot nicer as a real life car than it did in the unveil video and in the renders.

Also the trunk seems plenty big when the guy opened it up for him to look at, not sure why it looks so much smaller in the GIF.

I still think they need to do something about the single screen, I was looking at the instrument cluster on my car and realized that this car doesn't need a temperature gauge, fuel gauge, RPM gauge, or oil level gauge. In fact all it really needs is a speedometer and a battery charge level indicator. But I really feel like the driver should never have to look away from the road to see his speed. If nothing else, there should be a way to project the speed of the vehicle in front of the driver.
 
232,000 preorders
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/716089404985487361

Elon better get to work because 232,000 cars won't be building themselves. That's more than twice as many cars as Tesla has sold in the company's entire lifetime, and four times the number of cars Tesla sold in 2015 (about 55k Model S + X). At some point he really needs to stop taking preorders, because the people who just preordered are realistically looking at taking delivery in 2019 already. I mean there's no point in taking 1 million preorders if they won't be able to deliver the 1 millionth car until 2025.
 
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