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[ViciousDS]

is it all wheel drive?

 

[HeartlessNobody213]

is it all wheel drive?

It will have that as an option. RWD will be standard.

 

[iceblade997]

is it all wheel drive?

Some of the streams for test drives have said there will be RWD and AWD options. I don't think FWD is on the cards though.

 

[BeEatNU]

It isn't about the aesthetics though.

It is the constant comparison to ICE cars in a similar range while totally ignoring the reason someone would purchase a Tesla in the first place.

We get it, you still love ICEs. Nobody is taking them away from you. But the complete obtuseness as to why someone would want a Tesla is silly.

Most of the criticism I have seen(not specifically aesthetics) comes from motor heads. Tesla isn't making these cars for motor heads.

Bingo.

I love my ICE (raptor yo be exact) but the Tesla mindset is legit. People wanting these are obviously willing to let go off certain features. Granted Tesla itself has a lot of good features itself. In all honesty really most features you get in luxury cars are not being held by lower end ICE vehicles. Using higher end luxury cars as a argument is moot.

 

[Glass Shark]

I'm going to start a company that sells stick-on fake grills for the front bumper

(this is legitimately a good idea)

 

[Trouble]

I can't get this car until I get a house with a garage. Until Elon can figure out that problem, the Model 3 will never be mass market in urban areas.

Hopefully as EV adoption rises cities will add more curbside charging stations.

 

[ViciousDS]

It will have that as an option. RWD will be standard.

bleh on RWD.....I'm not taking that anywhere near snow. But AWD is making it tempting. But $35k is a little much for what I want to spend on a car right now. I'll probably just get my base model impreza for now and check them down the road. I mean this tech is only going to get even better and even more affordable.

Glad to see Tesla makes an AWD model.....should be standard to be able to have that option on all cars lol.

 

[BeEatNU]

Hopefully as EV adoption rises cities will add more curbside charging stations.

Yeah I stay in LA area so there's so many around its ridiculous. It's really the Midwest that has huge gaps.
For people living in apartments it's going to be abit rough because of landlords. Most jobs now offer charging stations at work though. Out here atleast

 

[Nafai1123]

So what's the current setup for charging stations like? Are they mostly in California? If you were driving a Tesla 3, how viable would it be to go on a long road trip (say from the very south to the very north of California)?

Go here and enter your city. It will show you all the supercharger stations around the area.

 

[ryan299]

Any clear images of the interior?

 

[captive]

All post that doesn't hail Elon, critisize the look, and/or have a different opinion is considered trolling to you guys..

And you seriously think a spec out 3 that is 50k/60k will be better than other cars that 50/60k?.....that class has insane competition.

First of all, we're not some hive mind, i am my own person with my own thoughts and opinions.

Second of all i only called out one poster as a troll, because he literally said and i paraphrase what he said "why are you people putting 1k down on a car that isnt likely to come out because Tesla is going to go out of business"

if that is not the definition of concern trolling i dont know what is.

I have no problems with people saying they dont like the car or for whatever reason they dont like tesla, i think they are ignorant but whatever. I only called twinturbo a troll.

And looks are subjective, but in my subjective opinion the Bolt is far far more ugly than the Model 3 will ever be.


And yes given what Tesla has shown with upgrades and customizations with the model s and model x, which you can go look at your self at teslamotors.com. i think that if the same type of customization is allowed on the Model 3 then yes if you fully spec one out to 50-60k whatever, it will be a great option compared to other models in its class, when you consider the fact that you A) are not paying for gas B) have lower cost of ownership and maintenance.
If you drive even 10k miles a year which is on the low side for the american average, with gas at 2.00 a gallon, which it wont be for forever, and lets say your comparable mercedes or bmw gets 35 miles to the gallon city and highway average, thats around 6-7k in fuel costs over 10 years, assuming gas prices dont go back up to 3-4 dollars a gallon. And that doesnt include any other maintenance required.

My wifes audi a4 just had 50k service and it was damn near 600 bucks for just regular service, nothing was broken or needing fixing. And this was at a non dealership mechanic.

 

[Minus_Me]

My wifes audio a4 just had 50k service and it was damn near 600 bucks for just regular service, nothing was broken or needing fixing. And this was at a non dealership mechanic.

50K in service? Ferrari's don't have services that high. That's Veyron territory. My friend replaced a Porsche 997 engine for 20K CAD.

Edit: Ah see where I went wrong, my mistake excuse me.

 

[illiniguy05]

50K in service? Ferrari's don't have services that high. That's Veyron territory.

miles. MILES.

 

[captive]

How is it possible to order a non-base model though? The website just gives the option to reserve the car, not a particular model.

i think he was implying if you average out the options that will be available.


Anyway this is insane they're up to 200k preorders.

 

[Fenderputty]

Just stop.. Let me guess, getting rid of the hood improves aero too? 😂

Stop what?

I actually am not sure if I'm a fan of the missing grill myself. It's odd and something I'm not used to. That doesn't mean it has any practical use other than aesthetics for an EV. Getting rid of the hood would make aerodynamics worse.

 

[Robotguy]

So what's the current setup for charging stations like? Are they mostly in California? If you were driving a Tesla 3, how viable would it be to go on a long road trip (say from the very south to the very north of California)?

You can view current supercharger stations here:
https://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger
Note that you can use other charging stations with a Tesla, but it will be slower and require an adapter. Also some of them may require payment, where as superchargers don't.

I've done LA to SF in an S85. It takes a bit longer but it's not that bad. We had two stops in the 15-20 ish minute range, and one stop that was 40 ish minutes. We had dinner during the longer stop so we didn't have to just sit around waiting the whole time. The car's navigation can automatically plan out stop locations and times for you, which is nice.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

I'm so glad it's doing great!

I wonder if Tesla has plans to come to South America. I should ask him on Twitter and hope he replies.

 

[AstroNut325]

i think he was implying if you average out the options that will be available.


Anyway this is insane they're up to 200k preorders.

I believe the BMW 3 series sold around 127K in the US last year.

This is impressive.

 

[Flo_Evans]

First of all, we're not some hive mind, i am my own person with my own thoughts and opinions.

Second of all i only called out one poster as a troll, because he literally said and i paraphrase what he said "why are you people putting 1k down on a car that isnt likely to come out because Tesla is going to go out of business"

if that is not the definition of concern trolling i dont know what is.

I have no problems with people saying they dont like the car or for whatever reason they dont like tesla, i think they are ignorant but whatever. I only called twinturbo a troll.

And looks are subjective, but in my subjective opinion the Bolt is far far more ugly than the Model 3 will ever be.


And yes given what Tesla has shown with upgrades and customizations with the model s and model x, which you can go look at your self at teslamotors.com. i think that if the same type of customization is allowed on the Model 3 then yes if you fully spec one out to 50-60k whatever, it will be a great option compared to other models in its class, when you consider the fact that you A) are not paying for gas B) have lower cost of ownership and maintenance.
If you drive even 10k miles a year which is on the low side for the american average, with gas at 2.00 a gallon, which it wont be for forever, and lets say your comparable mercedes or bmw gets 35 miles to the gallon city and highway average, thats around 6-7k in fuel costs over 10 years, assuming gas prices dont go back up to 3-4 dollars a gallon. And that doesnt include any other maintenance required.

My wifes audio a4 just had 50k service and it was damn near 600 bucks for just regular service, nothing was broken or needing fixing. And this was at a non dealership mechanic.

To be fair at some point the batteries will wear out and the motors will die.

They seem to be doing really well though http://gas2.org/2015/05/04/worlds-h...model-s-hits-120000-miles-still-going-strong/

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

I can't complain too much about 215 miles on a full night's charge.

You may only drain half the battery. Which is good if you don't have a better charger or get home late.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Hmmm... Average option being $42k means the lowest end model is $35k and the highest end model is $49k?

 

[D23]

If i live in an apartment, that has one year lease. how do i get the charging station? is it portable? do i have to buy a house to own a tesla?

 

[OmniOne]

Can someone explain their manufacturing process?

Why are deliveries always so far out? If the manufacturing plants are up and the giga factory is done. Why does it take 2 years to make a car and deliver it?

Do they store them as they make them and only deliver at the end? I would have thought once production starts they can start rolling them out to folks. I'm ignorant on this.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

If i live in an apartment, that have one year lease. how do i get the charging station? is it portable? do i have to buy a house to own a tesla?

Check with your apartment and see if they have EV charging stations.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Can someone explain their manufacturing process?

Why are deliveries always so far out? If the manufacturing plants are up and the giga factory is done. Why does it take 2 years to make a car and deliver it?

Do they store them as they make them and only deliver at the end? I would have thought once production starts they can start rolling them out to folks. I'm ignorant on this.

They will indeed roll out as they make it, with priority given to existing Tesla owners. However, they will probably steamroll the manufacturing mid next year. The manufacturing processes are like this: They are not just manufacturing the battery, they are manufacturing every part or buying every part or assembling every part, and optimizing and testing every part, including the final car. Some parts take longer to manufacture than other. I believe they are not at full steam, and the cars we saw were one of the few produced. They may have a lot of refining and finalizing to do. Knowing that their full speed manufacturing capacity is 500,000 per year, then they can make roughly 40,000 cars a month. Things genuinely take time to manufacture.

 

[FyreWulff]

To be fair at some point the batteries will wear out and the motors will die.

They seem to be doing really well though http://gas2.org/2015/05/04/worlds-h...model-s-hits-120000-miles-still-going-strong/

Yeah, it'll just be one big thing when it does fail. People kinda forget that ICE cars just gradually fall apart as they go.

I mean, our van just cross the 278000 mark on the odometer.. but the transmission is a replacement (and a rebuilt at that), the alternator was replaced, the tires had to be replaced, a couple years ago we had to replace all the wheel bearings..

 

[captive]

To be fair at some point the batteries will wear out and the motors will die.

They seem to be doing really well though http://gas2.org/2015/05/04/worlds-h...model-s-hits-120000-miles-still-going-strong/

of course any mechanical device is going to wear down and or break over time.

But the point is a EV doesnt have a transmission, an alternator, timing belts, radiator, plus everything involved in the ICE, just to name a few.
When my 06 Jetta TDI needed its belt replaced the mechanic also found a crack in my air intake manifold, shit started to add up quick i was looking at 2000 bucks (1100 just for the timing belt, 700 for the manifold plus labor) plus other stuff that needed fixing.

 

[HeartlessNobody213]

Hmmm... Average option being $42k means the lowest end model is $35k and the highest end model is $49k?

It could be, but assuming there is a performance option, I expect the top of the line model to be $60k.

Going by the prices of other Tesla options, I'm assuming the $42k comes from adding AWD and autopilot.

 

[Omlagus]

Can someone explain their manufacturing process?

Why are deliveries always so far out? If the manufacturing plants are up and the giga factory is done. Why does it take 2 years to make a car and deliver it?

Do they store them as they make them and only deliver at the end? I would have thought once production starts they can start rolling them out to folks. I'm ignorant on this.

They will indeed roll out as they make it, with priority given to existing Tesla owners. However, they will probably steamroll the manufacturing mid next year. The manufacturing processes are like this: They are not just manufacturing the battery, they are manufacturing every part or buying every part or assembling every part, and optimizing and testing every part, including the final car. Some parts take longer to manufacture than other. I believe they are not at full steam, and the cars we saw were one of the few produced. They may have a lot of refining and finalizing to do. Knowing that their full speed manufacturing capacity is 500,000 per year, then they can make roughly 40,000 cars a month. Things genuinely take time to manufacture.

This kind of timing is actually pretty typical for automotive. What they showed last night were likely just part of a handful of early test vehicles. They are nowhere near starting volume production.

So for them to start producing end of 2017, they are roughly where they should be in terms of having physical cars to show now. Also takes time to ramp up to full production volumes, which I'm expecting will be slow at least initially.

So, yeah, long way to go before these actually start true production running down the line.

 

[Stinkles]

There are a few superchargers on the way:
https://www.teslamotors.com/findus#...98?search=supercharger&name=Savannah, GA, USA

I think if you live on the coasts you're probably going to be okay. It's the midwest that has the biggest gaps.



Just curious, are you looking at preordering one?

Probably not - I am in the market for a lower end luxe vehicle, right now looking at a C class Merc 4matic, and an Infiniti Q30 because I want a comfortable, quiet AWD ride for ski trips. Our main "long" road trips in summer and Winter are about 300 miles and this would just kill that dream. Otherwise I'd definitely have it on the list.

 

[OmniOne]

This kind of timing is actually pretty typical for automotive. What they showed last night were likely just part of a handful of early test vehicles. They are nowhere near starting volume production.

So for them to start producing end of 2017, they are roughly where they should be in terms of having physical cars to show now. Also takes time to ramp up to full production volumes, which I'm expecting will be slow at least initially.

So, yeah, long way to go before these actually start true production running down the line.

Thank you guys!

 

[gundalf]

This is how the trunk opens:

and front trunk:

 

[Sigma722]

So uhhhhhhhhhh how many people who reserved yesterday have their confirmation email?

 

[Shadow2222]

This is how the trunk opens

I'm totally okay with this since the front is a trunk as well.

 

[ameratsu]

This is how the trunk opens:
http://i.imgur.com/JrVq9J5.gif[/imgz][/QUOTE]

That's strange. The back of the car is a hatchback shape, but the actual opening is so small you get none of the benefits.

 

[GTI Guy]

So uhhhhhhhhhh how many people who reserved yesterday have their confirmation email?

I preordered about 950am PST and still have not received the confirmation email. However when I log into my tesla account I see my reservation number.

 

[Nardonicus]

So uhhhhhhhhhh how many people who reserved yesterday have their confirmation email?

I reserved at the store at like 5:30 pm yesterday (I'm in Maryland). And I have not recieved my e-mail yet.

But, if I log in through Tesla's website, it has a record of my reservation there.

 

[shinshoryuken]

That's strange. The back of the car is a hatchback shape, but the actual opening is so small you get none of the benefits.

Well it's a solid slab of glass for the panomeric roof, so kinda makes sense.

 

[D23]

realistically, if we pre-order now. when do you think we will get the car? i'm guessing late 2018- early 2019?

 

[captive]

bloomberg is impressed. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-01/tesla-s-model-3-lives-up-to-the-hype

 

[Kitoro]

So uhhhhhhhhhh how many people who reserved yesterday have their confirmation email?

Not me. Reserved over 24 hours ago.

 

[Draper]

I guess I should start some sort of Tesla savings account.

 

[RustyNails]

Not me. Reserved over 24 hours ago.

Their server probably got rekt over night.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

bloomberg is impressed. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-01/tesla-s-model-3-lives-up-to-the-hype

Man, I really am crossing my fingers that the upgraded will give 300+ miles per charge.

Def would be interested in this car 2-3 years when I am ready to buy a new car.

 

[Paganmoon]

i think he was implying if you average out the options that will be available.


Anyway this is insane they're up to 200k preorders.

so with all the deposits that's about 200 million extra in their warchest?

 

[Anion]

Hmmm... Average option being $42k means the lowest end model is $35k and the highest end model is $49k?

The highest and might be more than 50k, if it's sales are anything like a conventional has car where few people tick off every box lol.
I can see a uber tier 55k version but very few will buy

 

[mashoutposse]

So uhhhhhhhhhh how many people who reserved yesterday have their confirmation email?

Preordered at 8:30AM PT yesterday, just got the email.

 

[Cake Boss]

Now come the hardest task the company has ever came across and its future rests on it. To actually meet the demand.

I wonder if this early success will get the major auto manufacturers to try an electric car out by that time.

 

[subrock]

I can't get this car until I get a house with a garage. Until Elon can figure out that problem, the Model 3 will never be mass market in urban areas.

or, you know, we could make it not Elon's problem

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...o-be-wired-for-electric-car-charging-stations
http://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/electric-vehicle-charging-requirements.aspx
http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/...datory-for-silicon-valley-20131003-2uwgf.html

So uhhhhhhhhhh how many people who reserved yesterday have their confirmation email?

ordered at 10:30 yesterday and still no email

 

[Abstruse Moose]

Now come the hardest task the company has ever came across and its future rests on it. To actually meet the demand.

I wonder if this early success will get the major auto manufacturers to try an electric car out by that time.

I'd be happy if other manufacturers start making EVs that don't make my eyes want to vomit.