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[brentech]

Can someone guestimate how long the GTX 765M will be viable?

strongly depends on what settings you MUST use (all high, all medium, any AA), and what you consider to be your bottom line of 30fps, 60fps, and what nots.

It's a much lesser card than the desktop 660, but no one can say how long it will be viable, especially considering we have no idea what you feel is acceptable.

 

[Karish]

strongly depends on what settings you MUST use (all high, all medium, any AA), and what you consider to be your bottom line of 30fps, 60fps, and what nots.

It's a much lesser card than the desktop 660, but no one can say how long it will be viable, especially considering we have no idea what you feel is acceptable.

How long will I be able to play the average new release at medium settings and at an HD resolution? I'm getting the GS70, that's why I ask...

 

[supergiz]

I'm looking to spend $500 on something that can play ff14 on high laptop settings. Is this possible

 

[brentech]

We won't totally know until games start releasing for new consoles and PC to see what they use. But right now, as it seems, on medium settings it should last you a few years most likely. I have the card as well, I think it will last in a decent way for two years give or take. After that, with new releases I don't expect much from it.

But if I'm still mostly playing Dota 2 that's not a problem.

 

[fluffydelusions]

I'm looking to spend $500 on something that can play ff14 on high laptop settings. Is this possible

That is likely not possible sorry to say. You can probably find something _around_ that price range to play at low/medium settings though

 

[Mass Effect]

How long will I be able to play the average new release at medium settings and at an HD resolution? I'm getting the GS70, that's why I ask...

Here's something to give you an idea: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-765M.92907.0.html

If you're wondering if it will carry you through the next generation, no, it's highly unlikely. However, using the newest, more demanding games of the current generation, I'm going to say that it will at least last for the first wave of next-gen titles. You will be able to play games like Watch_Dogs, Titanfall, The Witcher 3 on a 765m. Probably not at 1080p without compromising graphical fidelity, but at at least at 720p a 765m should have no issues running these games competently. Medium settings at that resolution sounds doable.

So I'm going with at least a year or two. After that though, it's up in the air. Of course, this is just how I'm seeing it. Feel free to consult someone who knows more than I.

 

[Karish]

Here's something to give you an idea: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-765M.92907.0.html

If you're wondering if it will carry you through the next generation, no, it's highly unlikely. However, using the newest, more demanding games of the current generation, I'm going to say that it will at least last for the first wave of next-gen titles. You will be able to play games like Watch_Dogs, Titanfall, The Witcher 3 on a 765m. Probably not at 1080p without compromising graphical fidelity, but at at least at 720p a 765m should have no issues running these games competently. Medium settings at that resolution sounds doable.

So I'm going with at least a year or two. After that though, it's up in the air. Of course, this is just how I'm seeing it. Feel free to consult someone who knows more than I.

SIgh... now I remember why I was hesitant about PC gaming. It's so stressful!

I plan on getting both next gen systems so the GS70 is really about PC exclusives/games I'd prefer to play on my laptop.

 

[GraveHorizon]

I just heard a complaint about Dark Souls being a bitch to install on Windows 8. Is Windows 8 a bad choice for gaming with Steam? Am I going to have to deal with stuff just not working?

 

[tigerin]

Are there any Windows laptop out there that is comparable to the macbook pro/air based on performance smoothness and navigation such as the track pad for a lower price?

 

[NEO0MJ]

I just heard a complaint about Dark Souls being a bitch to install on Windows 8. Is Windows 8 a bad choice for gaming with Steam? Am I going to have to deal with stuff just not working?

Installed and played several games via steam on my windows 8 laptop and never had any problem with them.

 

[fluffydelusions]

I just heard a complaint about Dark Souls being a bitch to install on Windows 8. Is Windows 8 a bad choice for gaming with Steam? Am I going to have to deal with stuff just not working?

I played on Windows 8 fine. The only thing is the GFWL thing. You have uninstall the version that it comes with and update to the version from MS site. There is a Steam forums thread about this.

 

[Drek]

I'd have chosen the Lenovo because of the illuminated keyboard, but that's just me. My only advice its to update to this driver.

Never had an illuminated keyboard, they that nice? But that does basically tie in with why I chose the Lenovo. I've had some cheap <$500 laptops the last few years since I did most of my gaming on my desktop and every damn one had some kind of case quality issue. Keyboards being junky from day one, spastic touchpad, or the worst was an Acer where the top and bottom of the body had just enough separation to catch and pinch when your forearm was resting against it while typing.

Very much looking forward to it though. Got a whole que of Steam games that are getting installed asap once it arrives.

 

[K.Jack]

Can someone guestimate how long the GTX 765M will be viable?

This is really a question about the next gen consoles. I suggest that we all be prepared to be hit hard by the PC requirements, once the true next gen ports start surfacing. A game like Watch Dogs will be an early indicator, but it won't be until games are no longer being developed for the PS3 and 360, that we really see the brunt of the bar being raised. What has to be understood is that weak low-range graphics cards aren't going to survive the transition. Any card slower than the GT 750M should be expected to have a very rough and sad transition.

Even the GTX 780M won't be immune to this.

So my absolute max I wanna pay (including black friday) is $700 for a laptop that will likely (saying likely since specs for the game haven't been released yet) run TitanFall at low settings (which i'm fine with), but at a pretty good framerate (im a console player, so i consider 45-60 fps great) .

Any $800 laptops that will likely be on sale in the coming months?

Also, anyone have a reply to this dude's reply on a different forum when I basically asked the same sort of questions I am asking here :

First, any laptop under $400 is going to be crap. You can run your facebook, pinterest, MSOffice and farmville with it ok, which is what most users only need, but if you want something that will last you more than a couple years w/out you wanting to throw it out the window, you will need to start out at your $600.00 range. That might run your WoW and other low intense games on the lowest settings.

What you need to understand is that if you even get the lowest performing laptop to run Titanfall, which is a very graphic intensive game, you will burn up the laptop in no time due to the heat. Having a weak CPU with limited memory, a weak graphics card and a poor design will shorten the life span of the laptop dramatically.

If I was to even recommend a laptop to play on low settings for titanfall, this is what i would recommend. This one is is shy of $1000. It has solid specs, and more importantly, a decent cooling system in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834231136

Otherwise, feel free to spend $500.00 on a laptop and tell us how it goes.

I both agree and disagree with things this person said. The bottom line is that you''re aiming too low with the budget. The ~$800 I linked you in the PM is literally the minimum you should be looking for, in terms of power. We're talking about a next-gen game here.

The Newegg link is broken, btw. What laptop is it?

Never had an illuminated keyboard, they that nice? But that does basically tie in with why I chose the Lenovo. I've had some cheap <$500 laptops the last few years since I did most of my gaming on my desktop and every damn one had some kind of case quality issue. Keyboards being junky from day one, spastic touchpad, or the worst was an Acer where the top and bottom of the body had just enough separation to catch and pinch when your forearm was resting against it while typing.

Very much looking forward to it though. Got a whole que of Steam games that are getting installed asap once it arrives.

Lit keyboards just show a certain level of quality. Once you have one, it's hard to go back.

 

[OverHeat]

This is really a question about the next gen consoles. I suggest that we all be prepared to be hit hard by the PC requirements, once the true next gen ports start surfacing. A game like Watch Dogs will be an early indicator, but it won't be until games are no longer being developed for the PS3 and 360, that we really see the brunt of the bar being raised. What has to be understood is that weak low-range graphics cards aren't going to survive the transition. Any card slower than the GT 750M should be expected to have a very rough and sad transition.

Even the GTX 780M won't be immune to this.

I both agree and disagree with things this person said. The bottom line is that you''re aiming too low with the budget. The ~$800 I linked you in the PM is literally the minimum you should be looking for, in terms of power. We're talking about a next-gen game here.

The Newegg link is broken, btw. What laptop is it?

Lit keyboards just show a certain level of quality. Once you have one, it's hard to go back.

 

[52club]

Even if the 700 series hits some bumps with the new consoles there are so many great games that don't have huge system requirements on the PC you should be good for a while even with a 765. If you insist on playing the larger budget games it will be an issue a whole lot sooner.

It will be interesting to see how much developers even take advantage of the new console specs since a lot of improvements will result in higher development costs at the front end of this cycle. I could see some pretty bad ports coming to the PC again as well, since the code might not be as refined.

 

[Karish]

Even if the 700 series hits some bumps with the new consoles there are so many great games that don't have huge system requirements on the PC you should be good for a while even with a 765. If you insist on playing the larger budget games it will be an issue a whole lot sooner.

It will be interesting to see how much developers even take advantage of the new console specs since a lot of improvements will result in higher development costs at the front end of this cycle. I could see some pretty bad ports coming to the PC again as well, since the code might not be as refined.

Yea I mean, I'll likely play those games on consoles anyway. I'm getting the PC for PC exclusives like Day Z and all the Kickstarter type stuff.

 

[K.Jack]

I just got a non-Dragon GT70, myself. I feel you. The GTX 780M is definitely a strong performer. Running so many games at 60fps for the first time is amazing.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Here's something to give you an idea: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-765M.92907.0.html

If you're wondering if it will carry you through the next generation, no, it's highly unlikely. However, using the newest, more demanding games of the current generation, I'm going to say that it will at least last for the first wave of next-gen titles. You will be able to play games like Watch_Dogs, Titanfall, The Witcher 3 on a 765m. Probably not at 1080p without compromising graphical fidelity, but at at least at 720p a 765m should have no issues running these games competently. Medium settings at that resolution sounds doable.

So I'm going with at least a year or two. After that though, it's up in the air. Of course, this is just how I'm seeing it. Feel free to consult someone who knows more than I.

I can play bf3 on ultra (no msaa) just fine on 765m @ 1080p. Titanfall is a source game. W3 probably most demanding game there.

 

[Azzurri]

Having trouble installing my MSATA, I finally figured out how to get mt DVD to show in the boot menu after I switched to both using UIEF and Legacy mood. But when I choose my DVD it tells me 'no boot device found' cable disconnect or something like that. But when I boot in to Windows I checked to see if my DVD works and it works fine? I even opned my laptop and reconnected my DVD dongles to make sure.

 

[frogg609]

I just got a non-Dragon GT70, myself. I feel you. The GTX 780M is definitely a strong performer. Running so many games at 60fps for the first time is amazing.

While I went GT60, this series is so amazing. I've been running it with Steam Big Picture Mode to my tv, makes playing Saints Row 3 awesome!

Ordered another 128Gb mSata. Going to raid 0 the two of them this weekend.

 

[52club]

Anyone with those 780s having trouble updating your drivers to nvidia's latest drivers?

 

[OverHeat]

Anyone with those 780s having trouble updating your drivers to nvidia's latest drivers?

installed the latest beta driver with no problem

 

[K.Jack]

Having trouble installing my MSATA, I finally figured out how to get mt DVD to show in the boot menu after I switched to both using UIEF and Legacy mood. But when I choose my DVD it tells me 'no boot device found' cable disconnect or something like that. But when I boot in to Windows I checked to see if my DVD works and it works fine? I even opned my laptop and reconnected my DVD dongles to make sure.

So the mSATA's in, but now the DVD drive won't recognize correctly? Did I get that right?

Anyone with those 780s having trouble updating your drivers to nvidia's latest drivers?

Download 326.80 Beta. It installed with no issue on my 780M.

 

[Azzurri]

So the mSATA's in, but now the DVD drive won't recognize correctly? Did I get that right.

I think I found the problem, the DVD i'm using is a resource dvd alienware gives, not an actual bootable DVD. So that's what's giving me the 'check connect cable' error.

 

[52club]

Well the Beta driver did the trick, just couldn't get the non-beta (320.49) to work. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Azzurri]

Tried some FFXIV on high settings and was getting 40-60 fps depending on how many people were in the area. I was actually quite surprised at the performance tbh. GTX 765m is a pretty beffy GPU

 

[fluffydelusions]

Tried some FFXIV on high settings and was getting 40-60 fps depending on how many people were in the area. I was actually quite surprised at the performance tbh. GTX 765m is a pretty beffy GPU

It is rather nice. Also have it. Very good for the price.

 

[Azzurri]

It is rather nice. Also have it. Very good for the price.

For sure, I didn't think it would to so well. It should keep me satisfied for a couple years.

I have a beefy Gaming PC, but having a portable that can run future games and games right now on med-high setting is also a nice thing to have.

 

[Exuro]

Was wondering if this would be any good for light gaming(lower powered indie type games)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009JXK1WQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Found a deal on craigslist for $400.

 

[GraveHorizon]

The last thing I'm stuck on is storage. 120GB SSD (OS) + 1TB HDD vs. 240GB SSD. The single 240GB SSD is $10 cheaper. I was told it would be better for a laptop to have no spinning hard drive for power and heat reasons, which sounds nice, but 240GB doesn't sound like a lot of space with Steam and my video files. With two drives, I could at least install some games on the SSD, and use the 1TB for all other storage.

Another option suggested to me was to get the 240GB alone and buy an external 1TB drive if I really wanted the extra space, but that would defeat the purpose of a laptop being portable, as well as costing a bit more money than just including one in it.

Does anyone have a particular experience with this situation? Should I just manage the space on a single 240GB SSD? Is there a disadvantage to storing stuff on a HDD in the laptop instead of everything on an SSD?

 

[Minsc]

While the larger SSD is nice, the main benefit of an SSD would be achieved with the 120GB... loading the OS and programs on to it. Not having a 2nd HDD in your laptop has the advantage of making the laptop cooler/quieter, but at the cost of a little convenience.

If you don't go with the 1TB drive in the laptop, I'd buy a networked drive that doesn't need to hook up to the laptop for storing videos/media, which would probably be better anyway, since then you could have your TV media center boxes link in to the networked drive and access your media as well.

Guess it depends mainly on the amount of data you need on the laptop at all times. I use a networked 2TB drive to extend the storage of my MBA and it works nicely.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Somewhat emberassing. I was toying around with my Samsung 770Z ultrabook with windows 8 OS and decided to install AMD's beta display driver to my laptop. After rebooting though my laptop won't start. I keep getting stuck in a strange black screen that keeps flickering. Sometimes I can control the pointer in that screen between the flickers but with nothing to click. tried using my TV as secondary display but I get the same thing.

Wanted to make a thread at notebookreview.com but didn't know where to post.

Edit: problem solved.

 

[fluffydelusions]

For sure, I didn't think it would to so well. It should keep me satisfied for a couple years.

I have a beefy Gaming PC, but having a portable that can run future games and games right now on med-high setting is also a nice thing to have.

Yeah if it can do bf4 at 1080 I'll be quite happy. Bf3 plays great on it.

 

[52club]

The last thing I'm stuck on is storage. 120GB SSD (OS) + 1TB HDD vs. 240GB SSD. The single 240GB SSD is $10 cheaper. I was told it would be better for a laptop to have no spinning hard drive for power and heat reasons, which sounds nice, but 240GB doesn't sound like a lot of space with Steam and my video files. With two drives, I could at least install some games on the SSD, and use the 1TB for all other storage.

Another option suggested to me was to get the 240GB alone and buy an external 1TB drive if I really wanted the extra space, but that would defeat the purpose of a laptop being portable, as well as costing a bit more money than just including one in it.

Does anyone have a particular experience with this situation? Should I just manage the space on a single 240GB SSD? Is there a disadvantage to storing stuff on a HDD in the laptop instead of everything on an SSD?

Why not go 240 SSD now (assuming you don't want to go with the cheapest hard drive option), and the slap in a 1TB in your extra HD bay when you find a good deal. Maybe you won't even need the 1 TB if you only install what you play.

 

[K.Jack]

The last thing I'm stuck on is storage. 120GB SSD (OS) + 1TB HDD vs. 240GB SSD. The single 240GB SSD is $10 cheaper. I was told it would be better for a laptop to have no spinning hard drive for power and heat reasons, which sounds nice, but 240GB doesn't sound like a lot of space with Steam and my video files. With two drives, I could at least install some games on the SSD, and use the 1TB for all other storage.

Another option suggested to me was to get the 240GB alone and buy an external 1TB drive if I really wanted the extra space, but that would defeat the purpose of a laptop being portable, as well as costing a bit more money than just including one in it.

Does anyone have a particular experience with this situation? Should I just manage the space on a single 240GB SSD? Is there a disadvantage to storing stuff on a HDD in the laptop instead of everything on an SSD?

Looking at Prostar's pricing, you could buy your own 500GB Samsung 840 for about $300 right now. I still think mSATA SSDs aren't yet worth the cost.

 

[GraveHorizon]

Why not go 240 SSD now (assuming you don't want to go with the cheapest hard drive option), and the slap in a 1TB in your extra HD bay when you find a good deal. Maybe you won't even need the 1 TB if you only install what you play.

Smart. Didn't even think of that.

Looking at Prostar's pricing, you could buy your own 500GB Samsung 840 for about $300 right now. I still think mSATA SSDs aren't yet worth the cost.

Is mSATA supposed to be good?

 

[Femmeworth]

Country where it will be purchased: United States

Maximum budget: ~$600

Max size (can be in screen inches, dimensions, weight): 16 inch screen

Planned usage (what kind of games or specific games it must run, if heavily gaming at all): Light to medium gaming. If I could play big games from a few years ago, say 2009, pretty well that would be great. I realize that is probably unrealistic for my budget.

Other notes: I'm looking for something I can take to my college campus for class and working in the library/etc. Something that will be comfortable for long stretches of time. I use a mouse with my current laptop, so a good touchpad isn't a priority. Though a good keyboard would be. If necessary, I can use an external keyboard. At home I will be hooking it up to a 720p monitor.

Thanks.

Edit: My current laptop is starting to crap out, so quick suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Azzurri]

Yeah if it can do bf4 at 1080 I'll be quite happy. Bf3 plays great on it.

 

[Karish]

3GB

 

[Azure J]

It's so gorgeous.

 

[K.Jack]

Weird that they list the 7870 and GTX 660, but then want 3GB VRAM, when neither of those cards ships with it.

It's so gorgeous.

Best laptop keyboard I've ever typed on.

 

[OverHeat]

It's so gorgeous.

Thx and I agree
And I'm so happy that I have 4GB of VRAM and 32GB of RAM( overkill I know ) for BF4

 

[Nickle]

I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo Ideapad Y500. Will it be good enough to play next gen games at at least low settings/ low resolutions (like Titanfall or BF4 or other generic games like that)?

Specs-

Windows 8 (64-bit)
15.6-inch LED-backlit TFT Color, Vibrant View Full HD Display (1920 x 1080)
2.4GHz i7-3630QM processor
Dual NVidia GT 650M graphics (2GB GDDR5 for each)
16GB DDR3 RAM
1TB HHD (5400 RPM) + 16GB mSATA SSD


Sorry if I posted this incorrectly, and thanks for any help.

 

[Shake Appeal]

I just got a non-Dragon GT70, myself. I feel you. The GTX 780M is definitely a strong performer. Running so many games at 60fps for the first time is amazing.

My non-Dragon GT70 should be arriving from XoticPC tomorrow, finally.

Hoping it stands up to a few years of top PC gaming, at least. Seems like it will eat just about everything on the market on high settings currently.

 

[52club]

For those with 780s, what temps are you maxing at. I'm in the mid 70s and I'm curious how that stacks up.

Here is a fee tool to check:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

 

[kakashi08]

I can't seem to find a good laptop.
Can someone just recommend me one.
These are the things I want it to have, other things don't matter.

Resolution 1080p
Screen Size: 17 inch
Graphics card, any NVIDIA CARD.
Price: No more than $1300.
I'm only going to use it for browsing and movies/tv shows. No hardcore gaming or anything like that.

There are so many laptops around 900-1000, I can't decide on which one.
I'm thinking about getting the "HP ENVY 17-j029nr" its for $1180.
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-ENVY/E0K90UA?HP-ENVY-17-j029nr-Quad-Edition-Notebook-PC

Is there anything better than that you could recommend me? I always add it to cart and then remove it and start looking around. PLZ HELP

 

[K.Jack]

I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo Ideapad Y500. Will it be good enough to play next gen games at at least low settings/ low resolutions (like Titanfall or BF4 or other generic games like that)?

Specs-

Windows 8 (64-bit)
15.6-inch LED-backlit TFT Color, Vibrant View Full HD Display (1920 x 1080)
2.4GHz i7-3630QM processor
Dual NVidia GT 650M graphics (2GB GDDR5 for each)
16GB DDR3 RAM
1TB HHD (5400 RPM) + 16GB mSATA SSD


Sorry if I posted this incorrectly, and thanks for any help.

Dual 650Ms will play next-gen games at better than Low settings. But how much are you paying for this Y500?

My non-Dragon GT70 should be arriving from XoticPC tomorrow, finally.

Hoping it stands up to a few years of top PC gaming, at least. Seems like it will eat just about everything on the market on high settings currently.

Oh yeah, definitely. I had my "holy crap this is powerful" moment, when I was running The Witcher 2 on Ultra at 60fps. Still haven't even messed around with overclocking.

For those with 780s, what temps are you maxing at. I'm in the mid 70s and I'm curious how that stacks up.

Here is a fee tool to check:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

If I turn on the GT70's Turbo fan, which is pretty much the Clevo's default max, the 780M reaches the mid to high 70s.

I can't seem to find a good laptop.
Can someone just recommend me one.
These are the things I want it to have, other things don't matter.

Resolution 1080p
Screen Size: 17 inch
Graphics card, any NVIDIA CARD.
Price: No more than $1300.
I'm only going to use it for browsing and movies/tv shows. No hardcore gaming or anything like that.

There are so many laptops around 900-1000, I can't decide on which one.
I'm thinking about getting the "HP ENVY 17-j029nr" its for $1180.
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-ENVY/E0K90UA?HP-ENVY-17-j029nr-Quad-Edition-Notebook-PC

Is there anything better than that you could recommend me? I always add it to cart and then remove it and start looking around. PLZ HELP

If you're not gaming, why the requisite Nvidia GPU? Just wondering.

If you're really not gaming, the Envy 17 is a good, quality laptop, with great speakers and high build quality.

 

[Nickle]

Dual 650Ms will play next-gen games at better than Low setting. But how much are you paying for this Y500?

Well, the specs I posted before are here, but that model seems to be for a more expensive ($1250) version then what I really want to pay for.
There is a 999$ model here, but I'm not sure how the specs compare to the ones I already posted. I don't need a graphical powerhouse, but running next gen games at a decent framerate is important.

Also, what would be the best time (and place) to buy a laptop like this? I'm thinking NewEgg and Amazon would have cheap prices around Black Friday, but I'm new to this, so I don't really know.

 

[Madridy]

So a friend of mine has a $2200 budget from his University to buy a laptop for CPU intensive simulations, what is the best laptop category for that?

- Having good portability is good (weight / battery)
- Keyboard/Trackpad are very important
- Good GPU isn't required but preferable
- at least 1080p screen
- SSD is a must (256/512GB)
- Any screen size, but smaller is better
- looks classy and low profile..


Thanks

 

[pizzapizza64]

I have a budget of $500 and want to get a Windows-based laptop that I can play a fair amount of games on.

Any advice?

Preferably something on Amazon if possible.