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The Batman - Review Thread
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SafeOrAlone
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Who was the guy with the very soft yet raspy voice? The current commissioner? That guy's voice was really interesting to me.
b0uncyfr0
Member
Yeah so this is a 7.5 for me. It just doesn't hit the same as the previous Batman movies.
The riddler character had a very irritating/almost ID-sounding voice. It wasn't good.
Catwoman and Batman Duo needed more love
Story is kinda all over the place (Slow start too)
Definitely not worth the money at the movies. Stay home if you have a big screen.
The riddler character had a very irritating/almost ID-sounding voice. It wasn't good.
Catwoman and Batman Duo needed more love
Story is kinda all over the place (Slow start too)
Definitely not worth the money at the movies. Stay home if you have a big screen.
ManaByte
Member
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Thanks but I don’t mean him actually. I don’t think he was commissioner yet in this story.
Ehhhhh. It was okay. Social justice catlady was ridiculous throughout. Batman acts like a buffoon on several occasions, but more importantly Bruce Wayne is played as a creepy weirdo, which doesn’t work for me. I applaud Pattinson for refusing to roid up though. I was enjoying it more until the third act, which dragged things down considerably and made the runtime feel undeserved.
Papacheeks
Banned
eyesabitdull
Banned
Wrong.
It's okay bro, its okay.
People have different opinions. That's life. Dont get your panties twisted over it.
Dr Bass
Member
I'm gonna check this out when it comes out on "home video" but what you're stating here is something I was a bit worried about from the previews. My favorite parts of the Nolan batman movies are basically the Bruce Wayne story moments, as those bits basically provide all the meaning for what's happening. As soon as the suit is on and he starts pounding faces in and the music swells, I check out a little bit. There just isn't anything interesting about people getting beaten up for me (yeah, yeah I'm gettin' old). If Bruce Wayne isn't a strong character then Batman is basically reduced to a goofball in a corny suit.
Roni
Member
Man, how good is this fucking movie... Took my stepson and a friend of his for this. They were a little confused at some of the plot but I loved it...
Very well executed, extremely good action, excellent pacing, two great finale crescendos, fun thriller puzzle, great pay off and arc for Batman...
It's a combination of Long Halloween, Earth One and Zero Year.
Very well executed, extremely good action, excellent pacing, two great finale crescendos, fun thriller puzzle, great pay off and arc for Batman...
You'll probably love this movie if you're in it for character arcs...
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ManaByte
Member
My favorite Batman movie hands down and my favorite comic book movie easily. Felt like I was watching a great Detective Comics arc.
- The movie is an actual DETECTIVE Batman story. Took us 30 years to get this.
- Gotham is amazing. Doesn't look like fucking Chicago. I loved how they used CGI to alter the tops of buildings to make it look like no city we know of.
- I love how it uses the theme like the Jaws theme. You know Batman is coming when you hear it.
- Scaffolding fight >>> Warehouse fight.
- We finally get a Batman who won't kill and won't use guns, and they make that clear more than once.
- I loved how Alfred was both a father figure and the Watson to Bruce's Sherlock.
- Pattison's Batman voice doesn't sound like he smoked a carton of cigarettes a day.
- We finally get a new Batman movie that doesn't have to show us the Wayne's dying again!
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ManaByte
Member
I kind of like the idea of Reeves doing what he did with his two Apes movies and having a time jump of a couple years between them.
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DispatchNinja
Banned
The one who sounded like Marlon Brando in the Godfather?
I think he was just a higher up at the PD, like a captain or chief.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Good movie! The action is significantly better than Nolans’ films. Sets and costumes are masterclass outside Catwoman’s ski mask. Acting good across the board. Was a bit too far up its own ass sometimes but in an age where everything is ironic, a superhero movie that takes itself completely seriously is actually kinda refreshing.
B+
B+
SentientStone
Member
Just saw this again tonight, yeah definitely not as good as Nolan.
Still my second favourite as I find the older Batmans too cheesy... though I love 1966 Batman.
Still my second favourite as I find the older Batmans too cheesy... though I love 1966 Batman.
DispatchNinja
Banned
Eh, only thing Nolan's movies have over this is Ledger's performance. Dano's riddler is no where near as impressive as Ledger's Joker. Riddler actually starts off really good and then gets progressively worse throughout the movie, mainly when he starts talking. TDK and TDKR don't hold up very well. Begins is still decent though. I'd rank them:
The Batman
Batman 89
Begins
TDK
Batman Returns
TDKR
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
The Batman
Batman 89
Begins
TDK
Batman Returns
TDKR
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
Papacheeks
Banned
I loved the whole thing. I think the thing that I disagree with is pacing. Could have been shortened. A lot back and forth, and I felt Alfred/Bruce was barely in it. But in terms of character arc for Batman they actually nailed what the comics expressed that Nolan never was able to show on screen.
I thought the way they even made batman fight emphasizing his brutality because of all the anger, being numb. Then by the end he even fights differently because he has changed. Except that one dude he went apeshit on because he pumped himself full of adrenaline to save Salina. But even after that you see him literally self sacrificing himself because he starts to see Bruce wayne isnt the only one who has suffered, is damaged, or in pain. ANd that people of Gotham need more than just "Vengence".
Fucking loved it.
Collin Farrel Penguin is fucking awesome, I could watch a whole movie of him and batman going back and fourth in Ice berg lounge.
Some Dialogue is hit or miss for some characters like Gordon, but he was great overall.
I just really hope since he is going to take on bigger characters they emphasize him training more. Like would love for them to do the comic version of Raij Al gul, but introduce him by means of Talia following the bat and helping him on a murder that is about her father. I just want to here Raj say "Detective" once and I'll die happy.
Dark knight is a crime drama film. Hence the word film. This is a comic film.
Take heath ledger out of dark knight and its a average crime drama with very little comic roots to batmans arc. If you take away riddler, you still would have a detective film with a full character arc. In terms of being more faithful to source material and showing it on screen through how batman gets to the iconic batman we all grew up on from the animated series, older batman. This movie delves more into the younger in-experienced batman. Nolan literally did all of the whole figuring shit out in Batman begins. And batman felt and looked like he was already in his crusader prime years.
Nolan's take is still great as an overall theater batman with series clean writing, witty dialogue.
This movie is literally all about Batman, blemishes and grittyness. What he feels when he';s out there, how his views of Gotham kind of change as the movie progresses. Nolan's films though conveying similar to same idea of why batman does what he does, kind of stays within the mold of superhero. The batman does not. Its literally looking at it through the eyes of a hurt young man who's numb and obsessed by one thing....vengence.
The fact they show this transition, though a little sloppy at times understands batman as a character. Nolan wanted it to be more about the man chose to make a difference, but by the end made it that anyone could be batman.
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GymWolf
Member
Bullshit, i loved star wars to death and the last jedi was enough to not even make me check the turd movie.
Agglomerate reviews site for me are as useful as metacritic for videogames...
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ManaByte
Member
Except Reeves said that wasn’t meant to set up anything. Nice lack of a spoiler tag too.
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ManaByte
Member
Nolan's movies were ashamed of the source material, that's why.
You're 100% correct here about TDK but you're going to get pushback as people don't remember how in 2008 many (including people here) were claiming that the movie was better than THE GODFATHER.
FunkMiller
Member
Sorry, but this is garbage. They’re not ashamed of the source material at all. How can you say that about a first film that uses Ra’s Al Ghul, for crying out loud? Or a second that captures The Joker better than anything else?
Nolan loved Batman… it’s why he went to WB in the first place to ask to make a Batman film. His movies are a fantastic encapsulation of who and what Batman is… even if the third one goes off the rails a bit. Just because Nolan injected a level of realism into the story, it doesn’t mean he didn’t respect, admire, and draw directly from the source material.
Batman Begins & The Dark Knight remain the best Batman films, and TDK is still the best superhero film of all time.
This attitude of let’s slag Nolan off because there’s a new Batman now us so incredibly tiresome.
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ManaByte
Member
Nah I was fed up with the Nolan movies 14 years ago when people were pretending TDK was better than The Godfather and vote bombing the IMDB rankings to make that a reality in their minds.
Astral Dog
Member
The Batman is an interesting take on the crusader i understand they wanted to avoid this but i felt it needed to tell an earlier story to see how this Batman came to be ,maybe on the spin offs? its a little cheesy on the themes, yeah i get it Riddler is a serial killer how creepy, yup white people are the bad guys, the atmosphere and performances were strong it looks like an horror movie at times , the music worked really well with the shots, suit and car are cool.
ManaByte
Member
We found the 1 person on Earth who doesn't know Batman's origin.
Astral Dog
Member
That was not my point at all, just saying i would like to watch a 'prequel' one day, because that story on this Batman universe would be worth watching
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ManaByte
Member
They're doing two prequels on HBO Max. A GCPD series and a Penguin series.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
saw it today. absolutely loved it. i must admit i'm not a huge fan of batman but i have seen the previous movies. this is by far my favourite.
was just reading about it online there and saw it is 176 mins long (including credits) and was surprised at that. it's one of those long movies that you wish would never end. apparently there was a 4 hour cut of it...i'd watch that!
was just reading about it online there and saw it is 176 mins long (including credits) and was surprised at that. it's one of those long movies that you wish would never end. apparently there was a 4 hour cut of it...i'd watch that!
ManaByte
Member
All of the test screenings they did were only 3 hours. There were two different cuts though. One had some kind of Mr Freeze hint at the end, but it didn’t have Barry Keoghan in it. The second one didn’t have the Freeze hint and added Keoghan’s scene.
Dr Bass
Member
Yeah I agree with this. The realism and actually trying to tell a decent character based story in these "superhero" movies are what elevates those Batman movies beyond any other super hero movie for me, except for maybe the the first two Christopher Reeve Superman movies (equal footing for me, for different reasons and of course its an entirely different style).
But I have a theory about this kind of behavior, and it's seen everywhere including video games. People will bash the old when the new comes out. Look at the Zelda series. it happens constantly. Now I could be completely wrong about this but ... to put it simply, I think there are a large number of people using entertainment to fill holes in their lives. When the "new" is out, it's fresh, it's "exciting." THIS is what they were waiting for, and they are pumped. If the movie turns out good, then "YES! This is finally what I wanted and needed!"
After a few years have passed, their lives are the same, and that now older material doesn't hold that same excitement. Then it becomes ... "hey you know, looking back that movie is just a movie. Ehhh it kinda sucks I think." That's why I'm still in the same situation. Now this NEW movie, this is going to be the one. Then the cycle begins anew and will repeat.
Now that's not everyone of course. And I think a lot of this happens subconsciously with these people, but what else would explain this constantly seen cycle, paired up with our rampant unending consumerism? Look at Keaton's Batman. All the rage in 89. When the Nolan movies came out, people thought they looked silly in comparison. Now Keaton is "the best batman" again to a bunch of people and he is reprising his role. What a shock. It's crazy behavior.
What so many of these weirdos don't seem to grasp is that all of the movies can be good. Or bad of course. But it's not a zero sum game. One does not take away from the other. You can like them all, if you find them entertaining. I think the different takes are fun. The Nolan Batman movies are great, and nothing will ever really change that or take that away.
That has nothing to do with the actual movies themselves. Who cares about IMDB rankings either way. I haven't looked at those in well over a decade I think because they simply don't matter for squat. Why would you let someone else's opinions of something color your own? Seems like it will cause you to miss out on a lot of things. The Godfather is one of my favorite movies. So is TDK actually. They coexist fine, and it doesn't bother me if someone thinks TDK is better, or The Godfather is better (I'd have to pick The Godfather between the two for sure, but often times I'd rather rewatch TDK). There are people who hate my absolute favorite things. And vice versa. Why would I sit around and let that bother me?
AlteredForms
Banned
I'm going to assume the Nolan Batman films are still king? I was planning on watching it today but changed my mind due to the packed screenings. I usually watch movies with few or no people in the cinema, it's more pleasant that way.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
The Dark Knight is still my favorite, but this is easily my #2.
"Who does #2 worrrrrk forrrr?"
saw it today .... its like best batman movie for me... its different from all others maybe thats wy.. its dark its serious its not super hero style its not good guy style... compare to that others seems more like kids movies or teens movies rly... this was so good ... hes not good hes not hero ... thats what i like .. hes making mistakes maybe .. so what .. we all have that bad side there...and we dont care about rules much too ... and it had romance as well ..and good one ... not some stupid one again as in other movies.
just amazing experience.
allways wanted more grit more dark more seriousness of those movies .. only here i got it .. and cars .. man those scenes with cars and bycicles where like that what it should look like and sound like ...
just amazing experience.
allways wanted more grit more dark more seriousness of those movies .. only here i got it .. and cars .. man those scenes with cars and bycicles where like that what it should look like and sound like ...
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FunkMiller
Member
Indeed they are. The first two anyway. The Batman is a very good movie, but lacks the absolute brilliance Nolan brought to the table. There’s an epicness and an iconic element to The Dark Knight films that Reeves doesn’t capture. But it’s easily the second best live action interpretation of the character.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
Interested in a sequel, how much training did Paterson do to prepare for the role? Was cool watching the combat scenes, because I don’t think the Batman wants to fight but took out enemies like nothing and Paterson is young enough to make a franchise out of it. Riddler felt scary, the riddles (bombs, rats, notes) were incredible, game changer character.
FunkMiller
Member
Yeah, of course you were. You supercool hipster, you.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Saw it today, a friend gave me a ticket. The movie is to LONG. There is at least an hour that can be cut out of the movie. They want to be real, except when Batman is being shot at. Social media has made batman villains the most dower people in existence. I liked it when they were interesting, nothing is interesting about the villain.
FunkMiller
Member
It‘s MUCH better than No Way Home. Mainly because it’s an actual movie, and not two hours of non stop factory line, corporate approved CGI, and the worst kind of memberberry fan service bullshit.
sol_bad
Member
Movie was really good, Dark Knight is still the best though. Loved that it really was a detective story this time, I always felt that was missing in other Batman films. The melee combat was great, I still think there is some sort of CGI trickery going on there though. The car chase was absolutely breath taking.
Seriously though, I groaned at the reveal in the asylum. I really hope Matt Reeves is true to his word and does not use that villain in a sequel. Batman has so many villains, why do they feel the need fall back on him? Please don't.
And since other people are bringing this up in the Batman thread, I have to say that No Way Home is a far superior film. You really can't connect or grow an attachment to Batman as a character, whereas I fully empathised with what Spidey was going through and the loss he had to deal with. That alone makes No Way Home better. Also the melee fight with Gobby in the apartment building is still far more brutal than anything in The Batman.
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I've noticed some people online get triggered over a single line from Selina about white people, pretty funny.
Seriously though, I groaned at the reveal in the asylum. I really hope Matt Reeves is true to his word and does not use that villain in a sequel. Batman has so many villains, why do they feel the need fall back on him? Please don't.
And since other people are bringing this up in the Batman thread, I have to say that No Way Home is a far superior film. You really can't connect or grow an attachment to Batman as a character, whereas I fully empathised with what Spidey was going through and the loss he had to deal with. That alone makes No Way Home better. Also the melee fight with Gobby in the apartment building is still far more brutal than anything in The Batman.
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I've noticed some people online get triggered over a single line from Selina about white people, pretty funny.
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TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Probably because it is forced SJW nonsense.
SentientStone
Member
Did anyone else notice that they kept on saying "Jesus" in the film?
SafeOrAlone
Banned
You bought a ticket don’t lie.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
I did not, a guy in my Sunday school class called me because his brother couldn't make it.