The Dark Knight SPOILER THREAD

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Darklord said:
Oh yeah, am I the only one who thought seeing the crow as just some...petty criminal kind of lame at the start? He just appears, gets caught and thats it.
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i just hope they bring him ack for the third one as the main villain as a complete psychopath
 
Darklord said:
Oh yeah, am I the only one who thought seeing the crow as just some...petty criminal kind of lame at the start? He just appears, gets caught and thats it.
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Well, to be honest, Scarecrow was never really a great criminal once he lost his power. He was only powerful when he has in control, when he was the authority figure. He caught Batman off guard once, then he got beat pretty easily by both him and Joey with a taser.

His appearance is to show a progression of the mob working with the freaks, have a scene where we can establish some of what's going on in the world, and to see the dogs in action for later setups.
 
FoneBone said:
Dumb question, I don't know how I missed it, but I'll ask anyway -- what caused the chopper to crash during the chase?
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Tripped the blades...With wire, I guess you could say.
 
FoneBone said:
Dumb question, I don't know how I missed it, but I'll ask anyway -- what caused the chopper to crash during the chase?
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Joker's gang setup cables between the buildings when Joker signaled them, helicopter + cables = uh oh.
 
best comic movie of the forever...

Joker's magic trick > all

best way to really start the movie off.

I don't see how they can top this movie, it's gonna be tough
 
Great, great movie! I agree with everybody's favorites.


HOWEVER, there were a few things I really, really didn't like.


-Gordon's fake death. WTF. Big eye roll moment. One, it makes almost zero sense and is full of plot holes if you give it any thought (like, say, he's "shot" in pure day light but there's no body? but his family buys it? what?) Two, it cheapens the other "real" deaths. Rachel's dead... but maybe its a fake, we don't know what to trust at his point!

-The first 20 minutes or so in general. The court room scenes were ridiculous. Some mobster pulls a gun on Harvey Dent? WHAT? How does that get in a court room? Does this exist just so we can see Harvey punch a dude? Also, the 300 or so on trial in the same court room. Incredibly "comic booky."

-The Hong Kong stuff made for neat visuals, but plotwise it could've easily been cut out to get to the meat of the story quicker. It's not like the mob and the mob's money storylines were handled with any real weight, so why bother?

-I wish a little more time was spent with Bruce and Rachel's death. I liked Rachel, especially in this movie, and her death was very tragic! Though Harvey feels it, Bruce is sad for one scene, Alfred talks him out of it and then he's all "okee dokee!"

-This is minor, but we should've visually seen somebody abduct Harvey and Rachel. Just a quick shot of a gloved hand over their mouth or something. Gordon walks in and tells the Joker that Harvey didn't get home last night, but my first instinct was that Gordon was bluffing (AFTER ALL, he bluffed his death). Until we saw Dent and Rachel tied up, it seemed like a ruse. You can still keep the mystery of where they are, and who abducted them a mystery, but this is a visual medium - SHOW me Dent didn't make it home last night.

So, yeah, those moments sucked. No doubt. I agree that around the time of the Joker's arrest forward, the movie gets really super awesome great.
 
me so Grant said:
-The first 20 minutes or so in general. The court room scenes were ridiculous. Some mobster pulls a gun on Harvey Dent? WHAT? How does that get in a court room? Does this exist just so we can see Harvey punch a dude?
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I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say M.A.F.I.A Connections

Was the theme throughout the whole movie, brotha.
 
I am still gathering my thoughts of this absolute MASTERPIECE of a movie. I am speechless. I dont think I have felt such dread, such evil in a movie in a long time. No horror movie in the last two decades have made me this uneasy in the theater. The Joker maybe the best villain I have ever seen in a movie.

What a movie!!

But holy crap I missed some stuff. Two-Face is dead, wtf?? I totally missed that, I just thought they were having some memorial for the guy cause he would have to be away after what happened to his face. I also never caught the Joker switch of the address now it makes sense. I though Batman sacrified Rachel, which was weird, now I get it.

I have no idea how you top this movie and I dont know how they can find anyone to be the Joker after that. But the next movie does need the Joker. If its a trilogy it ends with Batman and the Joker coming to an end.
 
during one of the first harvey dent scenes, my friend whispered to me:

"what the fuck is roger goodell doing in the movie"


it's even better the 2nd time around. next week, i'll ask everyone i know if they saw the movie. if not, i'll go with them for a 3rd time.
 
just getting back the midnight show was packed with teens damn one hour early because I was next door watching Wanted and shit most of the seat were already taken after it was full they opened two more screens to fit more people it was a madhouse for over an hour even a fight broke out and one kid was wearing a cape

Holy shit the pain was so worth it... what an awesome ride!
 
Gordon's family buys it in that one scene where the cops come to her door, why wouldn't they at that point? Chances are they found out before Gordon came back to them, as the wife really didn't act all that surprised, but rather met him with the slap as if she was waiting for him.

And he did it to protect them.
 
It's clear that Heath Ledger got raptured to actor heaven.

Anyway, interesting addition to my Dark Knight experience... during the social experiment scene with the two ferries a woman in the theater had a medical emergency and was promptly carried down the steps to the entrance by the people accompanying her, while some people shouted "If she's seizing she needs to be on the ground!", then an offer to call 911 was made and taken up, and not before long...


People started shushing.
 
me so Grant said:
-Gordon's fake death. WTF. Big eye roll moment. One, it makes almost zero sense and is full of plot holes if you give it any thought (like, say, he's "shot" in pure day light but there's no body? but his family buys it? what?)
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I see no plot holes there.

-The first 20 minutes or so in general. The court room scenes were ridiculous. Some mobster pulls a gun on Harvey Dent? WHAT? How does that get in a court room? Does this exist just so we can see Harvey punch a dude? Also, the 300 or so on trial in the same court room. Incredibly "comic booky."
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Well it's a.. comic book movie.

-The Hong Kong stuff made for neat visuals, but plotwise it could've easily been cut out to get to the meat of the story quicker. It's not like the mob and the mob's money storylines were handled with any real weight, so why bother?
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Who cares though? It was entertainign as all hell. It didn't drag and it wasn't boring. The longer the better.

-I wish a little more time was spent with Bruce and Rachel's death. I liked Rachel, especially in this movie, and her death was very tragic! Though Harvey feels it, Bruce is sad for one scene, Alfred talks him out of it and then he's all "okee dokee!"
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Kind of agree with you there.
 
FoneBone said:
What kind of Batman audience doesn't have a decent number of comic book junkies? In my theater, the Watchmen trailer got a shitload of clapping and cheers; T4 got no reaction other than when Christian Bale's name appeared onscreen.
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wierd, in my theater, the terminator and james bond trailers got cheers and claps while all the other trailers got Booed.
 
Fixed2BeBroken said:
wierd, in my theater, the terminator and james bond trailers got cheers and claps while all the other trailers got Booed.
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Honestly the Watchman trailer just.. didn't look amazing. Didn't look bad, but it was nothing to cheer at.

The Terminator teaser though, was surprisingly damn cool. That got cheers.
 
me so Grant said:
-This is minor, but we should've visually seen somebody abduct Harvey and Rachel. Just a quick shot of a gloved hand over their mouth or something. Gordon walks in and tells the Joker that Harvey didn't get home last night, but my first instinct was that Gordon was bluffing (AFTER ALL, he bluffed his death). Until we saw Dent and Rachel tied up, it seemed like a ruse. You can still keep the mystery of where they are, and who abducted them a mystery, but this is a visual medium - SHOW me Dent didn't make it home last night.
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You see Wortz be the driver with Dent. then the camera pans to Ramirez looking really serious as she sees Wortz drive off with Dent.

you already know that Wortz and Ramirez were investigated previously and may be crooked. it's a nice subtle hint for those who were paying attention.
 
Zep said:
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say M.A.F.I.A Connections

Was the theme throughout the whole movie, brotha.
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What theater did you go to man, fucking United Artists was a mad house getting out. I seriously sat outside my car with my friends and chain smoked for 45 minutes before getting in.

Fucking amazing movie though.
 
sorryaboutdresden said:
What theater did you go to man, fucking United Artists was a mad house getting out. I seriously sat outside my car with my friends and chain smoked for 45 minutes before getting in.

Fucking amazing movie though.
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I was at the Regal in Burlington...Had 5-6 showings going at the same time, was pretty packed and at least 10-15 cop cars stationed all around.

The Terminator/Watchmen and that other weird ass movie were met with a chorus of boos...I love Jersey.
 
Hwasong said:
Gordon's family buys it in that one scene where the cops come to her door, why wouldn't they at that point? Chances are they found out before Gordon came back to them, as the wife really didn't act all that surprised, but rather met him with the slap as if she was waiting for him.

And he did it to protect them.
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Yes, I was at the movie, I saw the movie logic - but it makes no real, logical sense. Someone tells you your husband is dead:

"Hey, your husband is dead."

"Oh no! Awful, awful!"

"Want a funeral? Identify the body? Anything like that?"

"No, no, no, who has the time? I believe you, why shouldn't I believe you?"

Plus, why is Gordon the only one who gets to fake his death to save his family?

Anyway, suggesting his family knew he was alive is contradictory to what we see and is some pretty hefty acrobatics to make sense of something that's a pretty half baked attempt at drama.



More importantly, though, is that its a cheap moment. A poor fake out in a movie where it isn't necessary. Enough of our major characters die or get messed up in one way or another that we don't need to go "Gordon's dead jk lol" halfway through. Spend that time making us feel a little more about Rachel - a character who actually bites it.
 
Zep said:
I was at the Regal in Burlington...Had 5-6 showings going at the same time, was pretty packed and at least 10-15 cop cars stationed all around.

The Terminator preview was met with a chorus of boos...I love Jersey.
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Oh shit thats right, its summer you wouldn't be in G-Borro. We had a few boos for Terminator too, it was great. But the new Mummy movie got booed much, much louder.
 
Hitokage said:
It's clear that Heath Ledger got raptured to actor heaven.

Anyway, interesting addition to my Dark Knight experience... during the social experiment scene with the two ferries a woman in the theater had a medical emergency and was promptly carried down the steps to the entrance by the people accompanying her, while some people shouted "If she's seizing she needs to be on the ground!", then an offer to call 911 was made and taken up, and not before long...


People started shushing.
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Did you watch at the Regal in Stonecrest? That place was crazy packed...when I was leaving the theater a girl was on a stretcher and there was an ambulance and fire truck outside.
 
woodchuck said:
You see Wortz be the driver with Dent. then the camera pans to Ramirez looking really serious as she sees Wortz drive off with Dent.

you already know that Wortz and Ramirez were investigated previously and may be crooked. it's a nice subtle hint for those who were paying attention.
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Pretty weak. A cut of somebody actually abducting Dent AND Rachel would take 5 seconds and create suspense, not surprise or confusion, when Gordon mentions it to the Joker in the interrogation room.
 
the only ONLY negative I could possibly put on this film

is that they completely dropped The Narrows. It was such a central part of BB and it's not even mentioned once here.





That said, WHO GIVES A FUCK THIS IS THE GREATEST FILM EVER MADE. I could talk about SO much, but i'm so overloaded with how incredible it is,I can't even pull myself together. MY FUCKING GOD.
 
The magic trick scene is the best scene in a film all year. That scene was when I knew this movie would live up to the absolutely insanely high expectations I had for it.
 
me so Grant said:
Pretty weak. A cut of somebody actually abducting Dent AND Rachel would take 5 seconds and create suspense, not surprise or confusion, when Gordon mentions it to the Joker in the interrogation room.
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- gordon gets an urgent phone call at home
- gordon looks distressed and rushes back to the jail
- gordon tells joker, "harvey dent never made it back home"

nope. not confused.
 
woodchuck said:
- gordon gets an urgent phone call at home
- gordon looks distressed and rushes back to the jail
- gordon tells joker, "harvey dent never made it back home"

nope. not confused.
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Yea, I really can't see how you'd be confused by that. that's 100% pure film language there. No "Here's Harvey Dent, guys! he's right here in this warehouse!" until it's absolutely necessary.


And do you guys really think the Joker mixed up the addresses? I think not. I'm fairly certain he made the Batman choice (saving his white knight so he can live a normal life) as opposed to the Bruce Wayne choice (saving his love for selfish reasons). Unfortunately, neither worked out.
 
Bowser said:
Did you watch at the Regal in Stonecrest? That place was crazy packed...when I was leaving the theater a girl was on a stretcher and there was an ambulance and fire truck outside.
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Yup, got there at 10:30 and there was already a long line. They also had seven showings when just a couple days earlier they were advertising three, and two a couple days before that.
 
This is what I put in a blog on another site, I keep it spoiler free there, anyway just to elaborate my thoughts on the movie:

I am keeping this spoiler free for now so don't be afraid to read. I don't know if a remember a movie that made me feel this uncomfortable, that filled me with such dread and dispair like this movie did. Forget horror movies, nothing is as evil, as unnerving as watching the Joker at work. I don't know if I have ever seen a depiction of a city at the brink of complete insanity as I did in this film. You watch as Batman and company just try to figure out what to do, its incredible.

Ledger will win an Oscar, if he doesn't it will be the biggest rob in Oscar history. To be fair though Heath Ledger was not in this movie. There was not one hint of him. What I saw was the Joker on screen. Not an actor, the Joker is real and they put him on screen, thats what I saw. To say its the best villain performance in comic book history is such an understatement, I dont think I can watch another superhero movie where the villain comes up with a dumb plot for world domination after watching this. This was freaky and captivating, this is a legendary villain performance.

God this movie was SO FREAKING AMAZING. i have not even talked about Aaron Eckart and his amazing role as Harvey Dent. This is Dent's movie as much as it is Batman's and Joker's and he makes the character stand as strong as those two. His arch his another masterfully told story. If there are to be complaints its probably going to come from the movie maybe being a bit too long but it did not bother me. Also the focus is not on Batman like it was in the last one, again did not bother me cause the cast was amazing and it does refocus on Batman by the end.

I can run down a list of great moments in this movie, I will do so later as more of you see it. GO SEE IT NOW!!
 
Can someone answer me this question:

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO TO SLEEP NOW?!

I am so pumped from this film, its 4:15am but I could go watch this movie again right now.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Can someone answer me this question:

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO TO SLEEP NOW?!

I am so pumped from this film, its 4:15am but I could go watch this movie again right now.
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Me too :(
 
woodchuck said:
no one at my theater clapped when the movie ended.

everyone just sat in stunned silence
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I don't know how many other people were, but me and my friends were screaming in exaltation. People clapped at certain parts but I don't think I ever lost my shit as much as when he flipped the Batbike on the wall.


Ok, so you got this absolutely incredible chase scene in the underground of gotham. Absolutely fantastic. Then, the batmobile gets it shit wrecked. You think the joker just might win. then the batpod. THE FUCKING BATPOD FUCKING EXPLODES OUT OF THE BATMOBILE LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL. he's racing against time and the joker now, darting threw malls. i'm fucking glued. the helicopter's fucking is ANNIHILATED. Everyone in the theater is screaming, losing their shit. The batpod shows up - and I swear to god, I've seen that truck flip a million times and IT STILL FUCKING BLEW ME AWAY.....

and then, to cap off all of that massive released of endorphins...HE FLIPS THE GOD DAMN BIKE OH MY GOD THIS IS SO INCREDIBLE.


My god. best, film, ever.
 
Just got in. Lovely N-7 train fucking detours, but whatever.

The movie was fucking jawsome. Ledger is The Joker, inside and out. It was amazing seeing him. I was almost worried before seeing it that the trailers I had seen, and the prologue were the best of, and that he'd have an inconsistent portrayal in the full film. Worries were quickly abolished thoroughly.

I can't even remember singular aspects yet. It's still an amalgam of pure awesome in my mind.
 
As far as the action goes, it certainly dwarfs BB...but man, don't shit on Begins guys. It's such a masterpiece in its own right.

Loved tonight's show. Great, great stuff. I really thought shit was done after Dent was in the hospital --- nope, one more gigantic final act. Fucking amazing.
 
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