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CurlySaysX
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WTF!? I didn't know Massa still had an F1 ride.
Would love to see him beat Alfonso all year.
Would love to see him beat Alfonso all year.
Psychotext
Member
Sky is reporting opposite, but it is just not possible looking on timeframe and opposite from Lewis statement on Sky (two supersoft attempts, both bad)
Mercedes completed 4973 km , Mercedes powered teams 17993 km during testing
Lewis had huge grin on his face today when he approached the media, this is good sign for Mercedes.
olore
Member
Unfortunately you might be right. I just wish that no 44 has learned that too. Even though Hamilton is older(=wiser?), I`m afraid too much of Sennas do-or-die mentality consisting of if-you-do-not-go-for-a-gap-then-you`re-not-a-racing-driver still is Lewis`s modus operandi. If he just learns to back of a fraction of a percent perhaps it would gain him more in the long run. Then, hindsight from the armchair is 20/20, he is in the cockpit making the split-second decisions etc etc...
Satanic Saint
Member
What is this iGP Manager? Is it any good? Would love to play a good motorsports management simulator.
Also looking for one. Is F1 Race Manager, I think that was the name, returning this year? GP Predictor wasn't all that fun IMO.
Keke Rosberg and Nico Rosberg observing Lewis
Also Pirelli issued a press release in which they confirm that Lewis did his fastest lap today on used softs
Also Pirelli issued a press release in which they confirm that Lewis did his fastest lap today on used softs
Psychotext
Member
My usual favourites aside, Rosberg is who I'd like to see win this year's championship. Maybe Massa just to further compound Alonso's torment. 
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Fastest laps Bahrain 1 / 2
Drivers:
Teams:
Engine:
Combined winter testing laps:
Teams:
Engines:
R.I.P Lotus
Drivers:
Teams:
Engine:
Combined winter testing laps:
Teams:
Engines:
R.I.P Lotus
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
I'd LOVE for that pace to be a genuine representation of their competitiveness this year, but I've been burned too many times before to expect that to be the case.
Fingers crossed.
Nicktendo86
Member
USED softs? Got dayumKeke Rosberg and Nico Rosberg observing Lewis
Also Pirelli issued a press release in which they confirm that Lewis did his fastest lap today on used softs
Nicktendo86
Member
Edit: got days mixed up, but here was today
1. L Hamilton Mercedes 1m33.278s Soft Used
2. V Bottas Williams 1m33.987s Soft New
3. F Alonso Ferrari 1m34.280s Supersoft New
4. N Hulkenberg Force India 1m35.577s Supersoft New
5. J-E Vergne Toro Rosso 1m35.701s Supersoft New
6. A Sutil Sauber 1m36.467s Supersoft New
7. M Chilton Marussia 1m36.835s Supersoft New
8. E Gutierrez Sauber 1m37.303s Supersoft New
9. S Vettel Red Bull 1m37.468s Soft Used
10. J Button McLaren 1m38.111s Medium New
11. K Kobayashi Caterham 1m38.391s Soft New
12. R Grosjean Lotus 1m39.302s Soft New
Doesn't look like it, site still has the same "going on break" message on it's homepage
Crap. I only got to play it for a year, really enjoyed it too.Doesn't look like it, site still has the same "going on break" message on it's homepage
The real question is whether Rosberg can handle the pressure. Hamilton's probably in his prime now. If we're assuming a Mercedes win I'd give it to Hamilton purely based on that I haven't seen anything from Rosberg that made me go "oh, shit, look at that" whereas Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso, and Kimi have.
I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential, or the speed. He's definitely got both of those in the bag, it's just question of if he has that little bit more. Either way Hamilton won't win, he's got a similar curse to Alonso
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Merc is gonna dominate.
Make that 3. I would play along and now is the perfect time to get started.
theignoramus
Member
when has Nico Rosberg given us a legendary drive like Hamilton did at Silverstone in 08. when has Nico Rosberg shown us an iron will like Hamilton did that same year in Hockenheim.The real question is whether Rosberg can handle the pressure. Hamilton's probably in his prime now. If we're assuming a Mercedes win I'd give it to Hamilton purely based on that I haven't seen anything from Rosberg that made me go "oh, shit, look at that" whereas Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso, and Kimi have.
I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential, or the speed. He's definitely got both of those in the bag, it's just question of if he has that little bit more. Either way Hamilton won't win, he's got a similar curse to Alonso
Psychotext
Member
Give him a car capable of regularly winning races (rather than just qualifying) and we may yet see.
Hamilton's just as likely to crack under pressure and throw it all away as he is to deliver stunning drives that blow everyone else out of the water.
Rosberg's performances range from calculated brilliance to middling mediocrity. Lately it seems experience has brought more of the former, and he was more than a match for Lewis last year.
This season is going to be fucking glorious.
Rosberg's performances range from calculated brilliance to middling mediocrity. Lately it seems experience has brought more of the former, and he was more than a match for Lewis last year.
This season is going to be fucking glorious.
Senna vs Prost: round 2. Massa and Bottas crashing the party!
Could we see the rise of Williams once again?
Not that Lewis drove the perfect season or anything, but I still say had McLaren not fuck up so badly in '12 the outcome would've been different. That was probably the only year of the last 4 that he had a car good enough to challenge RBR. Lewis is gonna outdrive Nico, sure Nico has good pace and with a good car he'll definitely do some damage, but I still don't put him up there with Ham/Kimi/Vet*/Alonso. I also see a lot of people sleeping on Hulk, he had a great fucking season in that Sauber last year. I expect him to be a contender for podiums this year with FI.
theignoramus
Member
I wasnt aware Caterham's owner threatened to pull his financing from the team if they didnt get any points this year.
I hated Williams back in the days when Shuey and Dill where fighting for the championship. *g* But I would love to see them succeed consistently again. Their average performance over the last (almost) ten years has been a shame for a team with William's pedigree.
Seemed to start (or was at least underway) around the time Webber joined. I think he let his love for the name cloud his judgement when he chose them over (I think?) Renault. Plus, Massa getting a podium or two would always be welcomed.
I've not seen/noticed much of Bottas as far as performance in a competitive car goes, but they could well be a manufacturer to look out for if they both consistently finish in the top 6 (which is entirely possible, depending on Renault's performance/reliability obv).
I reckon it would too. I think Frank deserves it. Plus, dat Martini livery. I think like Caterham a few years back, Williams will be my underdog(ish) team this year.
At least the merch should look slick
Dutch Gronk
Banned
I love how some people of the press are talking about how 'Ferrari is much faster than it looks, and just playing the underdog role, sandbagging yadayadayada'.
No they are not. The car just isn't good enough once again. I'm not getting my hopes up this season.
No they are not. The car just isn't good enough once again. I'm not getting my hopes up this season.
Nicktendo86
Member
Yeah, no way are they sandbagging. The car will improve befofrw Melbourne, but so will the others. They and McLaren have not done a good enough job. Merc, Williams, Force India have.
Yeah, Ferrari reminds me of Nintendo lately, it's all hype, hype, hype and then nothing
Absolutely. We need to see what he can accomplish on a consistent-winning platform.
Feel free to do the math yourself, but if McLaren hadn't fucked over Hamilton (and if he'd had just a tiny, tiny amount of luck) he'd have won the 2012 title by a reputable margin.
I couldn't disagree more. If you're going to say that about Hamilton, then you have to say the same about Alonso and Kimi. They're on the same level now.
I realise I always sound like a Hamilton fanboy but I promise you I'm not.
Small tidbit:
WIL engine failure shortly before the end of the test was exactly at the predicted eol by Merc. While WIL of course had hoped that it´d last longer, its still impressive Merc understands the power unit already so much they can predict its eol.
In other news, ROS did an interview with German newspaper Die Welt, I´ll do a quick´n´dirty translation:
Its rocket science in the cockpit
Just a couple more days until the Formula 1 season starts down under, and I´m especially looking forward to it. Many things are new. And that's why it´ll be a special challenge, for the Merc team and for me as a driver.
New engine, new hybrid, a turbo, one third less fuel consumption. That really adds up - especially for the races. By now its rocket science what we are doing in the cockpit.
By the way, we aren´t talking only about engine, we now call it the power unit. Our highest authority, the FIA, said three years ago that all teams have to change from a V8 engines to a 1.6 liter V6 engine. Now we have a turbo, just like my dad Keke did in the 80s. Because of that we now have almost as much power as in 2013.
The noise in the car is now somewhat down, its the first year I can actually hear the tires squealing in the corners. Its even down when the car stands, now its even bearable in the pits without ear plugs. But all in all, I think the sound is really cool - some kind of deep hum combined with the piping of the turbo...
The power unit is very complex. When breaking the batteries will be loaded by two electrical engines, that is called a hybrid. Those electrical engines offer for 33.3 seconds per lap additional 161 extra hp. When you crashed those out, its over for the rest of the lap. So you always gotta think in every situation: Am I going to overtake the car in front? or not - and save some fuel behind him, even if I could take him?
We spent a lot of hours in the simulator over the winter, I literally had steam coming outta my head. You have to really internalize all the new things, everything has to come to you aotumated - like a robot. Because we as drivers have to make all decisions in milliseconds. I like that, and that brings me fun. But everything added up, its of course a totally new Formula 1.
I really loved sitting down with the engineers and think everything through. Where we are going to make decisions concerning the development steps, what tactics we are going to use in races. We had to think of new code words and short words for pit orders.
The cars all got heavier, because the power unit consists of many more parts. That's why I had to literally go hungry over the winter, to get down to the team imposed weight limit. Every gram on your body costs real time per lap. In the race you have to do with 100 kgs of gas, that's a third less than the 150 up to now. All teams have to really drive economically, and it could really be that some teams wont finish in Melbourne if they choose the wrong tactics.
Our cars are still a little slower than the old ones, because there is less aerodynamics. The cars slip more in the corners. Last year we simply had more downforce. But for the 2014 cars its banned to use exhaust gases for downforce. But we are still going to get a lot quicker, as our engineers are going to do some magic. That's what I love about Formula 1, whoever is creative is also fast.
A big talking point this year will be to even finish at the beginning of the season. It could really be, that not the fastest but the most reliable car is going to win. The new systems are really complicated, the cars are prototypes. And if the new hybrid, called ERS, fails, you have zero chance. The you are out of 33 seconds of extra hp. The you´re going to be a snail on track.
A closing word concerning the noses: Some teams really came to very ugly solutions, oh my! Our Merc nose is really the nicest. But in the ends looks don´t count, your nose has to simply be the fastest.
Unbelievable, but the season will start very soon. I´m really happy with my situation, because the project Silver Arrow is really exciting. I´m here since day one, four years ago, and have a really good insight on the positive development the team has taken. A lot has been done, and a lot has changed, on every level.
We´ve been through hard times, and I really hope we did a good job over the winter, so we can take the next step and win more reaces this year than last year. Just like last winter, when we were able to shave off several seconds towards Sebastian Vettel and RBR, and in the end were even able to finish second in the constructors.
I´m flying down to Melbourne this Friday, so I got a couple of days to get over the jetlag. That's always a concern.
But when the lights go out at the start, it´ll hopefully take off!
PS: Every mistake made in translation is purely my inability!
WIL engine failure shortly before the end of the test was exactly at the predicted eol by Merc. While WIL of course had hoped that it´d last longer, its still impressive Merc understands the power unit already so much they can predict its eol.
In other news, ROS did an interview with German newspaper Die Welt, I´ll do a quick´n´dirty translation:
Its rocket science in the cockpit
Just a couple more days until the Formula 1 season starts down under, and I´m especially looking forward to it. Many things are new. And that's why it´ll be a special challenge, for the Merc team and for me as a driver.
New engine, new hybrid, a turbo, one third less fuel consumption. That really adds up - especially for the races. By now its rocket science what we are doing in the cockpit.
By the way, we aren´t talking only about engine, we now call it the power unit. Our highest authority, the FIA, said three years ago that all teams have to change from a V8 engines to a 1.6 liter V6 engine. Now we have a turbo, just like my dad Keke did in the 80s. Because of that we now have almost as much power as in 2013.
The noise in the car is now somewhat down, its the first year I can actually hear the tires squealing in the corners. Its even down when the car stands, now its even bearable in the pits without ear plugs. But all in all, I think the sound is really cool - some kind of deep hum combined with the piping of the turbo...
The power unit is very complex. When breaking the batteries will be loaded by two electrical engines, that is called a hybrid. Those electrical engines offer for 33.3 seconds per lap additional 161 extra hp. When you crashed those out, its over for the rest of the lap. So you always gotta think in every situation: Am I going to overtake the car in front? or not - and save some fuel behind him, even if I could take him?
We spent a lot of hours in the simulator over the winter, I literally had steam coming outta my head. You have to really internalize all the new things, everything has to come to you aotumated - like a robot. Because we as drivers have to make all decisions in milliseconds. I like that, and that brings me fun. But everything added up, its of course a totally new Formula 1.
I really loved sitting down with the engineers and think everything through. Where we are going to make decisions concerning the development steps, what tactics we are going to use in races. We had to think of new code words and short words for pit orders.
The cars all got heavier, because the power unit consists of many more parts. That's why I had to literally go hungry over the winter, to get down to the team imposed weight limit. Every gram on your body costs real time per lap. In the race you have to do with 100 kgs of gas, that's a third less than the 150 up to now. All teams have to really drive economically, and it could really be that some teams wont finish in Melbourne if they choose the wrong tactics.
Our cars are still a little slower than the old ones, because there is less aerodynamics. The cars slip more in the corners. Last year we simply had more downforce. But for the 2014 cars its banned to use exhaust gases for downforce. But we are still going to get a lot quicker, as our engineers are going to do some magic. That's what I love about Formula 1, whoever is creative is also fast.
A big talking point this year will be to even finish at the beginning of the season. It could really be, that not the fastest but the most reliable car is going to win. The new systems are really complicated, the cars are prototypes. And if the new hybrid, called ERS, fails, you have zero chance. The you are out of 33 seconds of extra hp. The you´re going to be a snail on track.
A closing word concerning the noses: Some teams really came to very ugly solutions, oh my! Our Merc nose is really the nicest. But in the ends looks don´t count, your nose has to simply be the fastest.
Unbelievable, but the season will start very soon. I´m really happy with my situation, because the project Silver Arrow is really exciting. I´m here since day one, four years ago, and have a really good insight on the positive development the team has taken. A lot has been done, and a lot has changed, on every level.
We´ve been through hard times, and I really hope we did a good job over the winter, so we can take the next step and win more reaces this year than last year. Just like last winter, when we were able to shave off several seconds towards Sebastian Vettel and RBR, and in the end were even able to finish second in the constructors.
I´m flying down to Melbourne this Friday, so I got a couple of days to get over the jetlag. That's always a concern.
But when the lights go out at the start, it´ll hopefully take off!
PS: Every mistake made in translation is purely my inability!
This is really, really good news. Sounds like WIL have a lot of things tuned fairly well. I say that having not seen the times they're pulling, but reliability wise they should be somewhat safe.
Psychotext
Member
Cheers.
Massa is pulling some damn good times out of the car too, so will be interesting to see how they qualify.
Oh, he is? I hadn't seen any times. That's really good to know. And Bottas being competitive with him?
the all black rear is ugly.
Frank Williams.
for sure
for sure 2
Williams nose
more pics:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...-8163807.html?fotoshow_item=3#fotoshow_item=0
In terms of the fastest laps in Bahrain, it was:
1. Massa
2. Hamilton
3. Rosberg
4. Bottas
In the last day, Bottas was second fastest behind Hamilton, but was 0.7 seconds offon new softs compared to Hamiltons scrubbed softs.
Qualifying is going to be really interesting either way.
But....but...the Pole Trophy....
This reminds me....We need reaction gifs from the Hamilton/Rosberg reactions to the regulation changes video..
Was going to do this with Gifcam and the automatic subtitles, but I forgot how hilariously bad they are.
"As you English people know, we´re very good at penalties" LMFAO
just asked myself who on earth would think that this shit is funny at all.
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