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The history of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is fascinating
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Rawr Its Ry
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Anyone here use any online services to supplement their training? I use Eddie's MTS (for $5!) and BJJlibrary w/ the ribeiro brothers. I've been thinking about trying MG in action but I cant really afford a 2nd bjj subscription so maybe there's someone here who has tried it and has any opinion on it?
juliushandle
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Dammit, I just preordered it. Love gi material belts.
Welcome, how many days a week are you training?
Grappler's Guide is worth a look. Jason Scully usually sells a technique or position video for a few dollars then you get invited to buy a lifetime membership for around $150. His Facebook group is very active and where he personally answers many questions.
If I had the money though, my online supplement training of choice would probably be the Mendes Bros.
BrettWeir
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Awesome!! Enjoy every second of it!!
I've been thinking about this as well, purely for foot/ankle locks. MTS and 10th Planet in general scare me. Not sure if my old knees could handle their movements.
Sweet! Please post how it is when you receive it. Do you have a Killer Bee Gi belt, by chance?
juliushandle
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yes i do and love it. looks brand new still. thin but strong and doesn't untie easily. it isn't perfect though as my A2 size seems to have been sewn from two belt pieces but it's hardly noticeable. maeda also makes a gi material belt but i've never seen one in person. i think at the time when i was looking for purple belts, neither had my size so i went with the flow hemp belt but found it too thick for my liking. i've heard nothing but amazing things about kataaro belts so i'm sure i'll be pleased.
My training partner used to have a maeda belt. Looked very nice. I have a kingz gi material belt and looking at photos it's pretty much the same belt as the maeda ones. Thicker belt than normal ones but slowly breaking in nicely after 6 weeks.
Another training partner has a custom kataaro which is really really nice but also super stiff, took a few months to break in. But he ordered it to be stiff and wide so it was always take a while.
Brerlappin
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I just did my first ever nogi class. This is some weird, weird shit after almost a year of gi only. I didn't get to roll tho as the class was just going on forever, hour and a half of warmups and drills, I had to leave after that just to get my bus home before my wife kills me. Oh and my knees are burnt to shit cause I only wore shorts :/
BrettWeir
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Good luck!! First tourney?
Yeah, that's my biggest complaint with my Kataaro. I got the "soft" and it's still rather stiff. I'm so used to the incredibly soft Koral.
My wife has a Fenom hemp Blue belt. I found it too thick for my liking as well, so figured I would stay away from hemp belts.........unless I could get my hands on a Green Gi belt. Which is practically near impossible it seems. I initially bought a Killer Bee belt, but man....the color drastically drained out of that thing, which caused me to get the Kataaro. I'll use it as my "crap, I forgot my belt" belt.
Nogi is awesome. It's so much faster than Gi.
juliushandle
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Yeah, I use spare belts primarily for when I travel and visit gyms. Nothing worse than leaving your favorite gear behind somewhere not close to home.
Nope.
Last one I placed second in my division.
I ain't fucking losing this time.
Most of the BJJ people freak the fuck out when I get a facelock in on them and their teeth or eyes start moving.
juliushandle
Member
So I got a chance to coach some classes at my school while my professor was away competing at the Europeans. It was easier but also harder than I expected. Easy because I loved sharing my knowledge, hard because time management is difficult. For example, I wanted to deep dive into full mount escapes and all possible scenarios but there simply isn't enough time in a single class. Also, the students, primarily white belts only got excited when I was teaching them submissions. So the challenge is to teach basics, dangle that carrot and teach a submission for the end of class, and do it all within 60-90 min class.
BrettWeir
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Good luck!
I hear ya. It gets even harder when you have those students with questions outside scope of what you're teaching.
What's the worst thing about Jiu Jitsu? Getting an injury that prevents you from rolling. Pulled my groin about 3 weeks ago. Having to sit on the sidelines and watch sucks!
Munki
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I try to train at least 3 times a week. But... as with most beginners, I am having a hard time staying on the mats due to various nicks and bruises.
BrettWeir
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Glad you enjoyed it!
Brerlappin
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Congrats!
Just back from class now. One thing I'm not sure about with this new gym is it think they might only have one sparring class per week, with an open mat on the weekend. Like we did 90 mins of training tonight, mostly drilling and some mild positional sparring (guard passing). But again I had to leave at like 8pm and they still hadn't done real rolling. I can't stay at class later than that, so if they do start rolling late night I can't hanget around that late which really sucks. Even though the drilling and little bit of sparring we did was tough, and enjoyable, and I really like the gym, I'm not sure it's worth it if you're not rolling regularly
BrettWeir
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You should ask just so you have direction.
IrishNinja
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Hey all!
So, Cindi took a break from gaf but would still like to stay in touch with her Jiu Jitsu gaf friends. Please pm me your emails so I can give to her if you want to stay in touch.
PS: she says she's really looking forward to rolling with Camajise one day.
So, Cindi took a break from gaf but would still like to stay in touch with her Jiu Jitsu gaf friends. Please pm me your emails so I can give to her if you want to stay in touch.
PS: she says she's really looking forward to rolling with Camajise one day.
Brerlappin
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Year it's about all I can do. Next class I'll just suck it up and stay till the end too just to see if I'm really missing out on anything. It just sucks getting home so late.
Doesn't really matter at the moment though because 4 weeks after my last cold, I now have another fucking cold so I'll be off the mats for a few days :/
Brerlappin
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PushingButtons
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Had a really tough class last night. One of the techniques we drilled was a slam of sorts. We had to lift and throw the guy sideways onto the mat. I thought it was weird but we did it a couple times. My partner on the maybe 5th attempt for whatever reason got really aggressive. He legit just body slammed me down and the professor was yelling at as I laid on the mat wondering what the fuck just happened. It fucking hurt. I felt a jolt of pain and a shock run through my back/shoulder area.
During rolling some dude bolted in and accidentally kneed my shin which hurt like hell.
After class I'm usually in pretty good spirits but last night was different. I felt really down afterwards and was frustrated. I'm guessing I was just a little pissed at the slam from earlier. While I'm still not able to much offensively (well, anything really) I understand to not be too hard on myself since I'm still so completely new to this. But that frustration at a lack of offensive is rearing it's head.
During rolling some dude bolted in and accidentally kneed my shin which hurt like hell.
After class I'm usually in pretty good spirits but last night was different. I felt really down afterwards and was frustrated. I'm guessing I was just a little pissed at the slam from earlier. While I'm still not able to much offensively (well, anything really) I understand to not be too hard on myself since I'm still so completely new to this. But that frustration at a lack of offensive is rearing it's head.
Brerlappin
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Try not to take it so hard. Occasionally youll come across dickish training partners and youll get pretty down, but it happens. I think ive posted here before about my first ever live rolling class, where almost everyone i rolled with went HAM, i got bellyflopped on by a dude who probably had about 100lbs on me etc, and almost quit that night. But those kind of rolls are few and far between. The guy body slamming you sounds pretty dickish alright tho, but those kind of people dont last in BJJ. Theyre generally the douches who jsut want to prove how tough they are, but once a blue belt or higher roughs them up a bit they quit because their ego cant take it.
Dont worry about having an offence. Youre only what, a month or two into BJJ? You should still be focusing on making your defence as fucking solid as possible. Keep the chin up! Unless youre defending and RNC. In which case keep it tucked.
To cheer myself up from this cold and missing class, i bought myself a new Gi: http://www.wolfhoundfightwear.com/p...es-450gsm-gold-weave-bjj-gi?variant=386790596
One thing i love about this new gym, you can wear whatever Gi/Rashguard you want. And we dont have to OSS after everything our coach says too, thank christ lol
juliushandle
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Sorry to hear. Sounds like you were drilling a judo throw. Unfortunately, as beginners learning new moves you will often face other beginners who haven't learned control. Control of their weight, their strength, etc. Usually, intensity and resistance increases with every rep you drill. If things progress too much, there's nothing wrong with telling your training partner to ease up if the instructor doesn't do it first.
Nothing wrong with having no offense either. Learning defense, finding your base, and passing and retaining guard should be your focus as a beginner.
I suggest you seek out the higher ranked guys to drill with as they have more control. Even a 3 stripe white belt is less spazzy then a fresh student with only a few classes under their belts.
BrettWeir
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I hear ya. Hell, our class doesn't even start until 8PM, rolling ending past 9:30PM. It's rough. I'm with ya regarding being off the mats. Had (still have) the groin pull, and now I have this awesomely disgusting cold sore on my outer lip. Yeah, not going to class, rubbing that thing all over the mats and training partners. I'm hosed for at least another week. Oh well. Life happens.
This confuses me. Even our Academy does this. I'm baffled as to why breakfall's aren't one of the first things taught to new people. Don't get frustrated. It's all just part of the game. As the others have said, don't worry about offense. You'll get there with enough time. Stay positive
Rawr Its Ry
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Congrats for placing dude! I've heard constant horror stories about Naga always running late. Last year there was an event here in Hawaii and I heard they ran hella late and even some of the officials that flew in left the event before it was finished to make their flight back home.
I placed 3rd in no gi and lost my first gi match.
Side note stay away from NAGA if you can help it. We started 3 hours late and it was a fucking mess.
They have to have events run 2 days.
There are too many fucking kids and the adults are all stuck waiting on these parents registering their kids the day of.
Biggest things they could do:
Force People to pre register
Use on of the many tournament systems that can text and print out brackets I'm seconds
Have kids and adults on separate days.
It was insane. Only thing I like about it is they don't ban most leg locks.
Rawr Its Ry
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I'm not too familiar with Naga rule set but what did they allow for gi - stuff like straight ankle locks or kneebars?
This is my second one. For beginner it's no reeping of the knee and no heel hooks.
They also don't allow twisters and Boston crabs (which I could have actually it on one guy believe it or not).
My coach loved it though because I was trying different things out there.
1st match I worked towards a straight ankle lock and got it.
3rd match I must have tried 20 different subs on this guy before I got the arm bar.
One of them is a very nasty but tough sub called a fisherman's hook in catch wrestling.
I don't know the BJJ term but its where you wrap the opponets arm around you head and stick your other arm in between and tank his head up while pressuring the other arm into his diaphragm. Every breath you take makes the choke sink in deeper and I'm almost 1000% sure nobody save for a few judges would have seen it before.
BrettWeir
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I placed 3rd in no gi and lost my first gi match.
Side note stay away from NAGA if you can help it. We started 3 hours late and it was a fucking mess.
Congrats man! And yeah, NAGA absolutely sucks. I refuse to go to any of their events. New Breed and Copa America are a lot better managed.
Brerlappin
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Good job Fox!
weemadarthur
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Cindi, you left this here martial arts chat invite somewhere. I hereby return it to you. https://discord.gg/nzmVufx
It's really hard to not type marital arts
Brerlappin
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What the feck is that? Looked like an armbar crossed with a triangle!
Class #2.. Submitted a Purple Belt. I think he was a little upset but the way I look at it is in real life you may not fight someone your size. I probably outweigh the guy by 100 pounds and am significantly stronger. He almost felt like a child when I tossed him.
The other thing is his vast experience kinda gives me an idea of what to do. What I mean is outside of the incredible amount of MMA i've consumed watching is completely different than execution. So when I'm rolling all I'm doing is feeling what the person is trying to not let me do and doing the opposite.
I basically did something close to the Mr. Wonderful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mkq5Ex1omI
So Phil was Left arm over left shoulder and right arm under right side and connecting. Mine was left arm over left shoulder and right arm going under the left side and the connecting.
The other thing is his vast experience kinda gives me an idea of what to do. What I mean is outside of the incredible amount of MMA i've consumed watching is completely different than execution. So when I'm rolling all I'm doing is feeling what the person is trying to not let me do and doing the opposite.
I basically did something close to the Mr. Wonderful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mkq5Ex1omI
So Phil was Left arm over left shoulder and right arm under right side and connecting. Mine was left arm over left shoulder and right arm going under the left side and the connecting.
Brerlappin
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If you tapped a purple belt in your 2nd ever class, it's because they let you
juliushandle
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I remember how I let a guy on his trial class get the move of the day on me during live rolling. I think it was a spinning armbar aka 180 armbar. I tapped and then the guy reacted like he just won the UFC championship; both fist in the air, collasped to his knees screaming YES, and even looked teary eyed. Whole class kinda laughed and shrugged it off. Dude didn't sign up to the gym and never came back. He went home undefeated and retired from grappling I guess.
Brerlappin
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My instructor mistakenly claimed I passed a purple belts guard last night and shouted "brerlappin wins", before the purple belt corrected him. I'm claiming that as my first time ever beating a PB
juliushandle
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White belts can tap upper belts, it's just rare. Likely though that the upper belt is taking the round off.
I'm not trying to get a big head or anything but I highly doubt that was the case considering the fact he seemed pretty pissed and didn't say a word to me after sparring. After the tap we had about 2 minutes left in our 6 min sparring rounds and he definitely didn't seem to be holding back. The dudes at this gym don't play around. We have a pro fighter in our gym as well. We'll spar again and if he took it easy then so be it. I need to learn and want to learn. I put one of my good friends in a arm triangle (though since I don't know fully what I'm doing I couldn't get him to submit) and I know for certain he was giving it his all.
As I grow the prospect of getting in better shape and being able to go the full 6 mins and retain most of my energy plus add actual skill to my level of strength is going to be awesome. All the dudes keep saying "Fuck man in a few months no one is going to want to spar with you"
Vigilant Walrus
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I hate being Injured. I can barely hold a cup with my right arm Been off the mats for almost two months now. *sigh*. I can feel I am getting better, but damn, I get all sad reading this thread when everyone gets to roll and I can't:'(
Been off the mats for almost two months now. *sigh*. I can feel I am getting better, but damn, I get all sad reading this thread when everyone gets to roll and I can't:'(Brerlappin
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I hate being Injured. I can barely hold a cup with my right arm
What happened?
Vigilant Walrus
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I think it's over training. A small tear in my forearm. But I've been having pains in both arms, elbows, shoulder. I try to look at a break as a opportunity to recover. Sometimes I forget how unnatural it is to throw adult people around with join manipulation. It is a tremendous pressure for our bodies!
Yep I have to hold back and gradually increase training. Need to break the cycle. I'll get dedicated to getting in shape. Train like I'm 17. Injure myself and need a few months off. Then never come back. I have to stop myself from going to all the jiu jitsu classes in the week. I already got shit that hurts after two classes.
BrettWeir
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He's more than likely pissed at himself for getting in the bad position to begin with. Ego may be getting in the way, but as they say....you tap people or you learn. My guess is he won't give you that type of advantage again. Being only 5'4" myself, this type of weight difference is common for me. It sucks, but it obviously helps in the long run hah.
It's incredibly tough going against that big of a size advantage. My instructor is a 3rd degree BB, about 5'9", and 190lbs. We had a guy in town, training with us for a month. This dude was around 290, nothing but solid muscle (power lifter and crossfit head), and a 2 stripe Blue belt from Pedro Sauer's gym. Instructor didn't tap, or get in any bad positions, but he had an incredibly tough time rolling with a guy that size and pure strength for about 4 minutes .... until the Hulk got tired. But still, was crazy to see.
Vigilant Walrus
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In my gym there is a correlation between the people who train smart (warm up, stretch, and who roll with less intensity) and those who train hard (go 110%). The people who train harder generally get injured a lot more.
The thing is- Warm ups are not very fun. Particularly young people don't feel they need them. fuck this shit. lets roll motherfuckers!
If we want to do this until we're 70 or 80, we need to train really smart. I'm always impressed by the stories of some of the older high level blackbelts who are not that offensive in sparring- they are more like crocodiles, who will get into defensive position or conservative positions, and then they'll make one intensive move when opportunity strikes.
That way of rolling makes sense to me when you're older and have less energy. It makes sense to not build ones game on explosiveness.
Yep. Jiu jitsu exposed my terrible (not like I didn't know I was out of shape) fitness. I feel my stamina level dropping like a video game. Its only a matter of time until I gas. Also I'm terribly inflexible. Been stretching three times a day. Hopefully I'll be more flexible in a year or so. Stretching is helping my back issues.
Brerlappin
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I know that feel. I busted my wrist hitting a heavy bag a few years ago. For a couple of months my wrist would turn to jelly just trying to pick up a dinner plate. Its probably why im so terrified of injuries now