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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D |OT| of |OoT|
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DrForester
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In case anyone wants the translated notes for the frog heart piece from the N64 version.
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-Pyromaniac-
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Alright back from my long ass ban. So I 100%'d this game. It's funny I played it so many times in my life but never fully beat it. And yes that includes the Loach. I really enjoyed it on the 3DS, absolutely loved the 3D effect. The game seemed more vibrant in 3D mode, gave me a better sense of the world, just enjoyed it all-round.
Good times folks.
Good times folks.
I've been following this thread and have noticed posts about double-vision on certain objects but I can see it on anything if the background is dark (i.e Link standing in front of a black spot in Lost Woods). I confirmed it with someone else too so I don't have wuss eyeballs or anything.
Could it be my 3DS or can you guys see it on everything too?
Could it be my 3DS or can you guys see it on everything too?
-Pyromaniac-
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The only issue I've ever had with the 3D was very slightly occasional ghosting, only in certain areas. Never had something extreme like double vision though.elektrixx said:
EatChildren said:
I completely agree with most of the statements in this amazing post.
Just wanted to add that, in my opinion, the one thing that makes this Zelda so easy is just the fact that we have gotten used to its gameplay. Not only because we have played many other Zelda games since then, but because we have played lots and lots of "poligonal" games since OoT was released (games that in fact have a great influence of this game).
I was 21 years old back in 1998, when the game was released. And I remember getting stucked in many areas of the game, not only in the dungeons, but also in the open world.
Nowadays playing in 3D scenarios seems pretty natural, but it was all so new in 1998!! Just litting the sticks to solve some puzzles was quite a discovery, back then!!
Please forgive my lousy English. I know it sucks, but I'm not a native English speaker.
BR!
Warning: Timeline!
Ok, so Majora's Mask takes place in the Child Link timeline, right after Ocarina of Time. That means the moon crashes into Termina while Link is hibernating. So Termina has already been destroyed by the time you wake up as Adult Link.
So yeah: on top of Hyrule having been flooded before Wind Waker, Termina has been destroyed and everyone in it has died.
Ok, so Majora's Mask takes place in the Child Link timeline, right after Ocarina of Time. That means the moon crashes into Termina while Link is hibernating. So Termina has already been destroyed by the time you wake up as Adult Link.
So yeah: on top of Hyrule having been flooded before Wind Waker, Termina has been destroyed and everyone in it has died.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
The Thieve's Den is pissing me off, I feel like I've explored the whole thing, I even found the heart container, but I'm still missing a carpenter and it's so annoying running around constantly getting caught.
Thinking about using a guide to get all the heart containers after I finish up the spirit temple before I head off to Ganon's castle. I'm missing a ton and I don't even know where to begin looking.
Thinking about using a guide to get all the heart containers after I finish up the spirit temple before I head off to Ganon's castle. I'm missing a ton and I don't even know where to begin looking.
Agent Unknown
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Anybody ever get the feeling (both back in the day and now) that Jabu Jabu's belly was what a 3rd person Metroid game for the N64 would maybe be like? I think the slight Metroid vibe was a bit intentional, the larger Bari jelly fish even have little pincer teeth and "eyes." 
kobashi100
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ConradCervantes said:
completed the game today, this boss was the only one I died a few times on!
Brilliant game and so glad they remade it on the 3DS!
Oh god... i just got gangraped by a group of 5-6 redeads that were all next to each others in the bottom floor of Kakariko's well in Master Quest. I tried using the Sun Song + Din Fire in the middle of the group. Bad idea. There was even 2 of them on me at the same time. D:
The worst thing is that not even a chest or something appeared when i killed the last one.
The worst thing is that not even a chest or something appeared when i killed the last one.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Finished this beautiful work of art for the first time (ever) today and did it 100% to boot!
I truly believe this to be Nintendo's masterpiece and think they'll not be as daring, innovative or brilliant again. Though they can feel free to prove me wrong of course!
The whole final fight and ending were amazing, can't believe it took me 11 years to finally see them.
I resorted to a guide for one stupid skulltula and for two heart pieces though doing it the hard way took me 39 hours. I also had to use a couple of the help videos for the water temple, which is the worst designed in the game by far and not just because I got stuck, but because it's just not very enjoyable and has amongst the worst boss.
Can't wait to restart this game and hope Majora's Mask will be on it's way, never played that one.
I truly believe this to be Nintendo's masterpiece and think they'll not be as daring, innovative or brilliant again. Though they can feel free to prove me wrong of course!
The whole final fight and ending were amazing, can't believe it took me 11 years to finally see them.
I resorted to a guide for one stupid skulltula and for two heart pieces though doing it the hard way took me 39 hours. I also had to use a couple of the help videos for the water temple, which is the worst designed in the game by far and not just because I got stuck, but because it's just not very enjoyable and has amongst the worst boss.
Can't wait to restart this game and hope Majora's Mask will be on it's way, never played that one.
It's the game man for sure and happens on every black background. When you get ghosting try closing one eye and looking at the image then look at it with your other eye. You'll be able to see the error in image layering and why it ghosts. It doesn't really happen often enough to be a problem though.elektrixx said:
Wrong. Ending spoilerRoto13 said:
Link gets turned back into a kid at the end of Ocarina. Zelda even explicitly tells him to "go back and make up the time you lost" so when the whole Ocarina saga is finished, Link is a kid so all of Majora is indeed entirely after Ocarina
Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:
Link gets sent back in time, but the Adult Link timeline doesn't get undone. Link was still chilling with Rauru when Termina got squished by the moon in the adult timeline. Majora's Mask is entirely after Ocarina of Time from Link's point of view after being sent back, but if year X is when Link went to sleep and year Z is when he woke up (or would have woken up, in the Young Link timeline), year Y is still when Majora's Mask happens.
Roto13 said:
In regards to Ocarina of Time, and Majora's Mask for Termina...
Notice that Skull Kid is still in the Lost Woods in the Adult Link timeline. Meaning he never robbed the Happy Mask Salesman (whom couldn't travel, because his shop was destroyed), never robbed Link, whom would proceed to chase him to Termina, meaning the events of Majora's Mask likely do not occur.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Hmmm. I think you got me there!
Although the adult timeline doesn't get undone and what happens in it happens, I was under the assumption that what did happen doesn't come to pass again. So it happened and Hyrule is safe, but Link getting sent back consigns what happened in his adulthood to an alternate timeline so, as a kid again, when 7 years go by Ganondorf won't try to take over again as he's already been defeated in what now has become the alternate timeline.
Recall when after all that has happened Link goes to Hyrule Castle to see Zelda again. It's an acknowledgement of what happened, they both 'know' somehow though are both now free to live in peace through this new timeline due to both of their past actions.
Recall when after all that has happened Link goes to Hyrule Castle to see Zelda again. It's an acknowledgement of what happened, they both 'know' somehow though are both now free to live in peace through this new timeline due to both of their past actions.
Dreamwriter
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Yes, and in Majora's Mask,Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:
Link is a kid. So after Link is finished with Ocarina of Time, he is sent back as a kid, and the next thing he does while still a kid is head off to Termina for Majora's Mask.
Bisnic said:Oh god... i just got gangraped by a group of 5-6 redeads that were all next to each others in the bottom floor of Kakariko's well in Master Quest. I tried using the Sun Song + Din Fire in the middle of the group. Bad idea. There was even 2 of them on me at the same time. D:
The worst thing is that not even a chest or something appeared when i killed the last one.
I almost died there too. Most dangerous place in the game I think! Worst part for you, you will need to return there when you will actually make the chest appear, just like me ^^!
Nocturnowl
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Oh good i'm not the only one, seriously those Master Quest Redeads will absolutely violate you.Bisnic said:Oh god... i just got gangraped by a group of 5-6 redeads that were all next to each others in the bottom floor of Kakariko's well in Master Quest. I tried using the Sun Song + Din Fire in the middle of the group. Bad idea. There was even 2 of them on me at the same time. D:
The worst thing is that not even a chest or something appeared when i killed the last one.
On the subject of unexpected master quest deaths I just finished the shadow temple.
- I got mauled by one of the "ship Stalfos", the crafty bugger used the ships swaying to perform two leap attacks over my shield, 8 hearts of damage!
- Bongo Bongo Served me up in less than 20 seconds, after I stunned the first hand the second went into fist form, smacked me in the face, then immediately again as I got up this time knocking me into the poison goop. I barely crawled up with one heart only to get immediately grabbed by a hand, overkill as he squeezed poor Link for a solid 5-6 seconds when I didn't even have any hearts left.
Man these unexpected deaths are actually making me enjoy it more! every Zelda game needs hard mode from now on!
Roto13 said:You know,even thought it's hinted to be the same Skull Kid, I just can't accept that the character responsible for causing all that trouble and nearly destroying Termina is the same guy I stab to death whenever I need a quick 200 rupees.
But see, it makes sense!
He loots people, and gets money, then you kill him, and get that money for yourself! ... I think that's the circle of life... or something.
Luigi87 said:
I don't see why you'd assume it was the same Skull Kid. So many characters in Majora use character models from Ocarina, and sometimes even have the same name, yet are clearly completely different characters who never show any sign of recognition towards Link. I assumed Skull Kid was just the same deal. He was Termina's Skull Kid, and was just able to find his way to Hyrule through the power of Majora's Mask.
KevinCow said:
But in Majora's Mask it is specifically said at the end of the game
by Skull Kid, "Eh-hee-hee...You have the same smell as the fairy kid who taught me that song in the woods..." at which point he doesn't have Majora's Mask, and then post-credits, Saria's Song plays (which btw, The Song of Healing is Saria's Song in reverse, a mirror much like Termina is to Hyrule)
TDLink
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Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:
Actually,
I was always under the impression that Link knew what happened and still kept those experiences in his memory when he went back at the end but everyone else, including Zelda, would not recall the events as they had not yet transpired (And in that timeline would not). Link talking to Zelda at the end wasn't her "knowing" but Link warning her about Ganondorf in advance so he would be dealt with before he could become such a big threat and thus all the subsequent bad things he caused would never come to pass. Link of course has the Ocarina of Time from the initial timeline (as he still has it in Majora's Mask) and that combined with the fact that he knew Zelda's Lullably would be enough for Zelda and her father to probably trust his word, I'd assume. At least that was my interpretation of it all.
I just had another stupid thought.
If Zelda sends Link back in time, creating a second timeline, does that mean Link creates a new timeline every time he plays the Song of Time in Majora's Mask? Does anyone around just see him disappear and then just get crushed to death at the end of the third day?
I can't believe I'm getting dragged into a timeline discussion.
At the end of OOT, the timeline splits in two:
1) The child timeline where Link is sent back to being a kid and warns Zelda of what Ganondorf is planning and is able to convince the royal family with his knowledge ho couldn't possibly know otherwise. This timeline continues in Majoras Mask, then Twilight Princess.
2) The adult timeline where link is sent back to being a child and therefore vanishes from existence causing the hero's bloodline to die and the Triforce of Courage to split into many pieces and scatter all throughout the land. This timeline continues in The Wind Waker.
Everything I've said has been proved in one way or another in the later Zelda titles.
As for the state of Termina, The moon would have never crashed in the adult timeline for reasons stated in a previous post and the Skullkid was proven to be the same one as in the lost woods at the end of Majoras Mask.
1) The child timeline where Link is sent back to being a kid and warns Zelda of what Ganondorf is planning and is able to convince the royal family with his knowledge ho couldn't possibly know otherwise. This timeline continues in Majoras Mask, then Twilight Princess.
2) The adult timeline where link is sent back to being a child and therefore vanishes from existence causing the hero's bloodline to die and the Triforce of Courage to split into many pieces and scatter all throughout the land. This timeline continues in The Wind Waker.
Everything I've said has been proved in one way or another in the later Zelda titles.
As for the state of Termina, The moon would have never crashed in the adult timeline for reasons stated in a previous post and the Skullkid was proven to be the same one as in the lost woods at the end of Majoras Mask.
Holmes said:
I guess that's just left for speculation, you could assume since Link remembers doing it before, he went back to do it again to make friends again. It's really the only way they could prove its the same skull kid anyway, unless I'm missing some details.
Edit: Wow, this thread has turned into nothing but black bars.
Aquavelvaman
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If the universe is truly infinite, then all Zelda timelines must concurrently exist at the same time and be constantly repeating.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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So in summary, Majora's Mask is indeed the direct sequel to OoT in all respects
I think Muskweeto has nailed pretty definitively how the two timelines split and how it effects subsequent games. Nothing I can think of from any game seems to disprove this so I can't really see how it's not correct. Interesting about Wind Waker nonetheless. So is Spirit Tracks now the 'furthest' ahead in time?
I think Muskweeto has nailed pretty definitively how the two timelines split and how it effects subsequent games. Nothing I can think of from any game seems to disprove this so I can't really see how it's not correct. Interesting about Wind Waker nonetheless. So is Spirit Tracks now the 'furthest' ahead in time?
Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:So in summary, Majora's Mask is indeed the direct sequel to OoT in all respects
I think Muskweeto has nailed pretty definitively how the two timelines split and how it effects subsequent games. Nothing I can think of from any game seems to disprove this so I can't really see how it's not correct. Interesting about Wind Waker nonetheless. So is Spirit Tracks now the 'furthest' ahead in time?
most likely. there's no telling when twilight princess takes place with respect to the other timeline, but my theory is both ganondorfs try taking over hyrule around the same time. tww ganondorf is successful, and is only defeated thanks to divine intervention. tp ganondorf is defeated by zelda, midna, and link.
*pushes glasses up*
GeekyDad
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elektrixx said:
Ha, ha. Great anecdote to illustrate one of the many things that make this game great. I've checked out video after the fact to see how other folks have handled certain parts of the game, and it's always interesting to see the different solutions or differences in play style.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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FuzzyNorman said:
There are three gold skulltulas at the bottom of the well. Check your map and you'll know if you have them all from a particular dungeon as you'll see the skull icon next to the dungeon name
I just finished Okamiden and I think I'm going to go back to Ocarina of Time and play through Master Quest. I played the GameCube version but that was a long time ago and the only thing I remember about it specifically was
awesome. I know the mirrored world is going to screw me up.
that there were cows in the wall of Jabu Jabu's belly that were
I know the mirrored world is going to screw me up.Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but to clarify, when you say both Ganondorf's tried to take over Hyrule at the same time, are you referring to the events of OOT? If not then both Ganondorf's did not try to take over Hyrule at the same time.AniHawk said:
TWW Ganondorf escaped from the Secred Realm that he was imprisoned in at the end of OOT and took over Hyrule, and since Link had been sent back in time to his childhood, thus killing off the hero's bloodline from the adult timeline, there was nobody to stop the Triforce of power wielding Ganondorf so the Gods intervened by flooding Hyrule which lead to the events of TWW.
TP Ganondorf never received the Triforce of power due to being stopped by Link before the gate to the Secred Realm was ever opened in the child timeline. Since Ganondorf never caused his raign of destruction on Hyrule, the original Sages never died, so the original Sages tried imprisoning Ganondorf and killing him by stabbing him with a sword but in doing so the Triforce of Power ended up making its way to him anyway because he was fated to have it all along, so Ganondorf removed the sword from his chest, attacked the sages and escaped, Leading to the events of TP.
TP Ganondorf never received the Triforce of power due to being stopped by Link before the gate to the Secred Realm was ever opened in the child timeline. Since Ganondorf never caused his raign of destruction on Hyrule, the original Sages never died, so the original Sages tried imprisoning Ganondorf and killing him by stabbing him with a sword but in doing so the Triforce of Power ended up making its way to him anyway because he was fated to have it all along, so Ganondorf removed the sword from his chest, attacked the sages and escaped, Leading to the events of TP.
Mega Man
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This is the most frustrating game ever! I've never played it before and cannot get to the forest temple. Even Game Faqs tell me to just go back to where Saria taught me the song in the lost forest, BUT I DONT REMEMBER WHERE THAT WAS... can someone help me? I already got the hookshot
Well, I'm not going to tell you the exact directions because I'll probably mess them up, but if you stand right on the edge of a black area in the lost woods, you'll be able to see through it if it leads somewhere, or it will just be black if it leads to the entrance.Mega Man said:
Mega Man
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yeah I got that, and I go through the forest all the way until I get to a point where all three options lead me to the entrance. so it's a dead end.. am I missing something? The broad in the temple of time tells me to find the forest girl but I'm completely lost as to what I have to doRoto13 said: