Please, don't stop now.
I like how he mentions excuses for Zelda II but doesn't mention that MM required the expansion pak to work.
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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Please, don't stop now.
I like how he mentions excuses for Zelda II but doesn't mention that MM required the expansion pak to work.
Hobbestetrician
Member
Malstrom did call the 2008 election for McCain and implied a few months ago (before she declined to run) that Sarah Palin would probably win in 2012.
ridleyscott - Malstrom - Limbaugh confirmed?
Yeah OoT sold 7 million, but has OoT 3DS sold anywhere near that many? I think we all know what this proves.
i give you EXHIBIT A
LINK HASN'T RESCUED BREAKFAST IN 20 YEARS. THIS IS WHY MODERN ZELDA GAMES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Wyndstryker
Member
Seems like I know what do if I want to try a 6 heart run lol
I know noone bought it and it bombed, but...
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In any case, darn..4th dungeon was amazing!! :O! Great look, awesome music, awesome boss...that bit at the end of it was breaking my head (about:
needing to put the statue back the way it was. I was running all over the place, looking for an extra arm or legs of the statue; when it was just ..really simple..XD
On my way to dungeon 5 now; darn the music is even better.
I LOVE the tightrope walking mechanics.
they arent difficult. Just subtly move the wiimote slightly side to side along with Link's steps. I don't even start to lose balance.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Is Zelda shooting for irrelevance?
Let's look at the facts:
- I think the 4-5 year cycle it takes for console Zeldas to come out now is going to kill their fanbase aside from the dedicated hardcore. Does Nintendo really think fans will be willing to wait 4-5 years for mediocrity?
- OoT 3D sold far, far less than OoT did thirteen years ago. Someone in another thread said Spirit Tracks sold better.
- Skyward Sword has received an onslaught of bad press in the west. Its name carries much less weight than it did ten years ago. The game got a 75% review in a Gamestop article, Gametrailers gave it a 9.1 but the text within the review essentially said,"WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU NINTENDO?".
- With recent comments like from developers, and the damage control they've presented is it safe to say that the developers at Nintendo are now completely out of tune with what players want? Have they not bothered to not watch the competition at all? And I"m not just talking about wrpgs, I'm talking more specifically about the recent renown adventure games such as Uncharted, Darksiders, even Okami and their very own Xenoblade.
- In the west, teenagers aren't being brought up on Zelda like many of us were when we were kids. Many of us grew up with Zelda. Nintendo's Miyamoto says that Final Fantasy is for everyone, but in the west - which is a sizable chunk of their sales - teens no longer are brought up on Zelda. This leaves Japan, but are teenagers really interested in Zelda in Japan these days? Someone in Japan can you post incite on this? Basically, what I'm saying is that Miyamoto says Zelda is for teenagers, but I'm not seeing the teenage audience grow much, while they continue to go down a path of non-coherent, teenybopper games that don't appeal to the people who grew up with them, thus forcing people like us to abandon them. So after that, who's left buying these games?
I truly feel that if the developers at Nintendo don't shape up the series soon, this means shorter development times, more appealing story/characters, more radical gameplay changes, I don't think see many people coming back for Zelda WiiU or 3DS. I know where I stand on that. For me it's,"Why bother?"
What do you think, gaf?
Why? What happens?
I agree with Ridleyscott on the basic premise that Zelda should return to a more streamlined experience. Skyward Sword has a lot of improvements to the combat system, but all the hand-holding and the practical elimination of the overworld has been really disappointing. They've sped up the action but slow you down everywhere else. I don't need Fi to tell me that I should do something immediately after being told by someone else to do it. It shows a real lack of faith in the player, as if we're not smart enough to figure out their game on our own. It's not even optional.
On that note, the main problem I have with Zelda at this point is that whenever an element is introduced into the series, they feel that it has to be included in every subsequent game. People complained about Navi when this whole concept was introduced in OoT, yet they still feel the need to have this forced guide character because it somehow wouldn't be a Zelda game without it.
There was an article on Kotaku a while ago about how Pokemon is marketed and how they never do away with a marketing tactic in case that was the cause of success. Instead they just add new stuff. Eventually everything gets bogged down with some stuff that actually is good and other stuff that could easily be trimmed.
Playing Link to the Past right before Skyward Sword has also contributed to this feeling. That game has almost all of the Zelda hallmarks, yet very little bloat like overly long dialog and hand-holding exposition. I think the next Zelda should go back to the basic formula and build up from there, if only to eliminate some of this bloat.
On that note, the main problem I have with Zelda at this point is that whenever an element is introduced into the series, they feel that it has to be included in every subsequent game. People complained about Navi when this whole concept was introduced in OoT, yet they still feel the need to have this forced guide character because it somehow wouldn't be a Zelda game without it.
There was an article on Kotaku a while ago about how Pokemon is marketed and how they never do away with a marketing tactic in case that was the cause of success. Instead they just add new stuff. Eventually everything gets bogged down with some stuff that actually is good and other stuff that could easily be trimmed.
Playing Link to the Past right before Skyward Sword has also contributed to this feeling. That game has almost all of the Zelda hallmarks, yet very little bloat like overly long dialog and hand-holding exposition. I think the next Zelda should go back to the basic formula and build up from there, if only to eliminate some of this bloat.
That Christmas Zelda avatar of yours is so fucking cute it hurts.
Epic Tales of Penis
Banned
Is is it possible to get accurate sales totals for all console Zeldas?
I think it'd be pretty cool to see those figures.
I think it'd be pretty cool to see those figures.
You can kill your heart containers?!
Will never experiment with such a thing.
No, I mean don't activate the little floating symbol thingie without first getting your heart container or you ain't ever gettin' that heart container.
legend of zelda - 6.51m
zelda ii: aol - 4.38m
alttp - 4.61m
la - 3.83m
oot - 7.6m
mm - 3m
ooa - 4m
oos - 4m
tww - 3.5-4m
tmc - 1.5-2m
tp - 5.84m
ph - 4.13m (last updated march 2008)
st - 2.61m (last updated march 2010)
remakes and upgrades:
ladx - 2.22m
alttp/fs - 2.0-2.5m
oot3d - 1.08m
spinoffs:
fsa - 0.6-1m
tingle's rosy rupeeland - 0.5m
link's crossbow training - 4.8m
tingle's balloon trip - 0.1m
a lot of these are old numbers. i fudged the numbers a bit on tmc, fsa, and tww, but those are probably more correct than using numbers from right after launch. for instance, there's no way tww is currently barely over 3m ww unless europe bought zero copies total.
shadyspace
Banned
This game makes me feel like the little kid I used to be playing Ocarina of Time. And I haven't even gone through the 4th dungeon.
BertramCooper
Banned
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It's fucking awesome.
Zelda games never cease to entertain me. I wish Zelda fans could appreciate how goddamn great this series is instead of nitpicking the hell of it. Having high standards is good, but having impossible standards is problematic.
Those are two awfully selective examples... The Metacritic score is 95. Your own opinions of the game aside, how is that by any stretch "mediocrity" or "an onslaught of bad press"?
Edit: NVM, didn't realize it was a joke post
Hobbestetrician
Member
Completely agreed. I have actually been trying to not play in too long of periods because I want to savor it.
i'm doing the same thing. i marathoned twilight princess and it was like eating all my halloween candy in one night. i loved it while it was happening, but i didn't feel so good about it right afterward.
Boards of Canada
Member
Highly HIGHLY recommend doing it. The whole smooth motion thing is great for 30fps games.
Someone's not getting a cookie!
Oops, haha, yeah I didn't see the post title until after responding.
Or the poster's avatar for that matter
Zela has never been a franchise that breaks sales record on every new entry. Zelda II had a big fall off from 1. It's just a consistently good/great selling series, it's in a position where many franchises wish they could be. I don't think any series, outside of 2D Mario, has been able to constantly increase its fanbase without having a huge decline at some point.
Slurpy2k20
Member
Alright guys, I've calmed down a bit from my previous foaming outrage. I hope to enjoy the rest of the game as much as possible and mentally ignore/tolerate any irritating elements to the best of my abilities. There's no way possible I'd be able to asign a number score to this game.. so many highs, so many lows, and so much baggage and expectation.
Hell no. I'm about to enter it the second time and I'm excited. I love that part of the game.
shadyspace
Banned
lol same. I haven't played it in two days. It's hard for me to believe a video game is this good.
Yeah, really like those segments. On the first one ,I died like 3 times..at the freaking end!
Second one , was more tense...but did it on my first. Those fucking little bastards!! >
I play..4-5 hours per day. But that usually translates into 1 dungeon and a bunch of running around been clueless or looking for items or bugs. There was this place pre-dungeon 5 with a bunch of ants and I was just running around with my net and hitting the floor to catch them.
Second one , was more tense...but did it on my first. Those fucking little bastards!! >
I play..4-5 hours per day. But that usually translates into 1 dungeon and a bunch of running around been clueless or looking for items or bugs. There was this place pre-dungeon 5 with a bunch of ants and I was just running around with my net and hitting the floor to catch them.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Please help someone...
What is the song used when Fi is talking to Link...it's kind of Explosions in the Sky-esque...very quiet...
GAF halp!!!
What is the song used when Fi is talking to Link...it's kind of Explosions in the Sky-esque...very quiet...
GAF halp!!!
Boards of Canada
Member
Skyward Sword is the first time I ever died from a Deku Baba. Multiple times.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Playing in
and I can already tell that this is going to be crazy.
Hero Mode,
shadyspace
Banned
This is a new console Zelda.
9 hours in and just entered the second dungeon. Feels like I'm going at a good pace, only get a Zelda game every 5 years so I want to make it last. I'm limiting my play times per day also to create the illusion of a longer game haha. I could play 50 hours but if it's all over in a week then it'll seem short.
That said, I haven't wasted any time. I'm always doing something, be it exploring or sidequests or chatting with NPCs. Loving the whole game so far. The sky isn't as grand as I hoped admittedly (and no day/night cycle is the great missed opportunity of 2011), but it acts as a fantastic hub and the surface areas more than make up for it.
That said, I haven't wasted any time. I'm always doing something, be it exploring or sidequests or chatting with NPCs. Loving the whole game so far. The sky isn't as grand as I hoped admittedly (and no day/night cycle is the great missed opportunity of 2011), but it acts as a fantastic hub and the surface areas more than make up for it.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
What are the exact differences?
BertramCooper
Banned
I've lost count of how many times I've died. It's so refreshing to encounter such difficulty with normal enemies.
The lizalfos in particular are really, really tough.
I cant imagine how much fun that will be in later areas XD I just finished the game myself.
IMO the most emotional ending yet in the Zelda series. Seeing Impa and Fi go, Fi especially. Sad to think all the times we get the Master Sword in the future, she's just asleep forever. I hope we can see her again in the future somehow
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
What you want to do is aim to hit their non-arm side, as that forces them into a taunt. Still annoying though
SuperAndroid17
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1HZzs-WxkY
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Btw , does the 4th dungeon's boss theme remind anyone of the OoT boss theme? Same piano keystroke.
5 hours and change dungeon one is down. I gotta admit it sorta feels like I just spent 5 hours completing 2 hours of content. The constant cut-scene and instructional gameplay interruptions, imprecise & inconstant motion controls, slow movement speed (stamina & ultra slow swimming speed). Plus it seems like every time I fall 'down' in a room or area the path back to where I need to be to continue is needlessly lengthy. The quest to find the
was just terrible. Tippy toe tight rope walking? Fiddly rope swinging? In Zelda?!
I'm certain given the unanimous praise things will improve. I've just got to get into the game's groove.
furry scrotal sack creatures
I'm certain given the unanimous praise things will improve. I've just got to get into the game's groove.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
Perfect end to a perfect dungeon.
[post-endgame]
link is now a wolf-god and you use the wii remote to paint instead of use weapons. also, the story is a lot worse, but it's okay because there are constant references to japanese culture and that automatically makes the story amazing. you also can't speed up the text and it moves slow as fuck. load times have increased, and there are now loading screens between catching a bug, the animation to show you've received the bug, and getting back to the gameplay. this also happens every single time you do it.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
that's bad
BertramCooper
Banned
What you want to do is aim to hit their non-arm side, as that forces them into a taunt. Still annoying though
What's awesome about them is that the taunt legitimately pisses me off and makes me start trying to beat the hell out of them. And then the bastards spin around and get me with their razor tails.
EmCeeGramr
Member
You "lose hearts twice as fast" (enemies do double damage, not sure about fall damage, etc), hearts and heart flowers don't appear unless you have a Heart Medal in your pouch, Sheikah Stone has all hint movies unlocked from the start, collectibles/bugs carry over (but nothing else), Goddess Sword starts out with a fully-powered Skyward Strike (near instant charge time)