Rezbit said:Yes it will be, but Australia should also hang their heads because they couldn't get out Monty Panesar
Grug said:Seriously, if England hold on here, its a great effort.
Rezbit said:Well done England, you held out.
What the fuck Australia, you couldn't get out the #10 OR #11.
Sorry to drag this back up, but people quite often take hope out of snathcing a draw from the jaws of defeat. Consider WW2, Dunkirk. The English got smashed, but staged a very successful retreat, and took heart from that. I wouldn't be surprised if a draw here gave them extra morale.Grug said:You reckon?
England battling to salvage a draw against Australia's first innings total (in which they only lost 5 wickets).
Cardiff was the one England really needed to win to get the series momentum. This was the pitch their spinners were going to destroy us on.
idahoblue said:Sorry to drag this back up, but people quite often take hope out of snathcing a draw from the jaws of defeat. Consider WW2, Dunkirk. The English got smashed, but staged a very successful retreat, and took heart from that. I wouldn't be surprised if a draw here gave them extra morale.
Grug said:Yeah, its dissapointing, but lets get some perspective.
One team nearly won convincingly, and the other team nearly lost convincingly. Better to be supporting the former.
Grug said:Yeah, its dissapointing, but lets get some perspective.
One team nearly won convincingly, and the other team nearly lost convincingly. Better to be supporting the former.
idahoblue said:Sorry to drag this back up, but people quite often take hope out of snathcing a draw from the jaws of defeat. Consider WW2, Dunkirk. The English got smashed, but staged a very successful retreat, and took heart from that. I wouldn't be surprised if a draw here gave them extra morale.
idahoblue said:Sorry to drag this back up, but people quite often take hope out of snathcing a draw from the jaws of defeat. Consider WW2, Dunkirk. The English got smashed, but staged a very successful retreat, and took heart from that. I wouldn't be surprised if a draw here gave them extra morale.
Rezbit said:Sorry man, but I can't agree. They media won't shut up about this. Some really shit decisions made by Ponting in the end, I can tell over the next couple of days questions will be raised.
Maybe, the next Test will tell.Grug said:Yeah no doubt. But remove the bad weather, and that game was Australia's by an entire innings.
I think England will be feeling more relief rather than confidence.
idahoblue said:Sorry to drag this back up, but people quite often take hope out of snathcing a draw from the jaws of defeat. Consider WW2, Dunkirk. The English got smashed, but staged a very successful retreat, and took heart from that. I wouldn't be surprised if a draw here gave them extra morale.
It wasn't really meant to be a realistic comparison, just to show that people can take heart from results other than victory.Tim the Wiz said:The time wasting was unnecessary, but a good battling stand from England's lower order and Paul Collingwood. (He earned his MBE today!)
:lol Thing is, though, this was probably England's best chance to win. Also, wars between nations are a much more dynamic and fluid situation than cricket - where the resources probably aren't going to change as dramatically within one series. I think the comparison is unrealistic.
Grug said:Yeah no doubt. But remove the bad weather, and that game was Australia's by an entire innings.
I think England will be feeling more relief rather than confidence.