The new Robocop is aiming for a PG-13 rating
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RoboCop's theatrical cut wouldn't be PG-13, period. On top of the violence, it has plenty of swearing and Miguel Ferrer snorting coke. There is absolutely no argument for it being rated anything other than R.
dispensergoinup
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Totally agree with you, most CG blood just looks silly. Especially when you're expecting it to drip off like a sword or squirt out and it looks like it's straight out of Roger Rabbit.
sixteen-bit
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It'll be just like when they air Robocop on network TV or basic cable.
Succinct Verbosity
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Saying that Robocop would be PG-13 today is absolute bullshit. That movie was a very hard R with lots of violence and plenty of F-bombs.
This movie sounds like a complete disaster.
Yep, this is the scene that popped into my mind too.... Not to mention the hard drugs and implied rape.
Liquidsnake
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Lol
Stitch
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Scenes from the new pg-13 Robocop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A7vHUz69_QE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A7vHUz69_QE
Hero_of_the_Day
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Scenes from the new pg-13 Robocop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A7vHUz69_QE
I find that scene funny, because I don't know what it's trying to imply. What would OG Robocop have done, started knifing little kids in the neck?
Can Crusher
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Snake Eyes?
megarockexe
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If they made it Rated R, they'd be targeting the same old viewers again. The way I see it, this makes it have a much broader appeal. It will be on FX or other cable channel within 2 years.
SonicMegaDrive
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Yeah, and I'll be aiming to avoid this movie. Thanks.
Totally a PG-13 movie.
I'm 98% sure there's shit like that in Lord of the Rings and several recent superhero movies.
Brofist
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With that amount of blood spray? I don't remember it if there was.
SonicMegaDrive
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There is no way in Hades that RoboCop would get a PG-13 rating if released today. The sheer amount of gore and F-bombs alone would force a hard 'R'.
homelessbaby
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I just saw Jack Reacher and was kinda shocked at how violent it was for a PG-13. Not so much in what you see, but the tone of the film was R-rated IMO. I think if the film ends up with the right tone, the rating shouldn't matter too much.
This reminds me, though: With the first Taken, and World War Z, both were rated PG-13 in the US and were too violent to be passed at a 12A here in the UK. Usually, like with Hunger Games or Salt, they'll cut it down so it's not a 15. But with Taken and WWZ, I think the studios knew that grownups don't want to watch 12A-rated films and kids don't want to watch Taken and WWZ, so they leave them uncut.
So... maybe this is better for people in the UK? Lol.
This reminds me, though: With the first Taken, and World War Z, both were rated PG-13 in the US and were too violent to be passed at a 12A here in the UK. Usually, like with Hunger Games or Salt, they'll cut it down so it's not a 15. But with Taken and WWZ, I think the studios knew that grownups don't want to watch 12A-rated films and kids don't want to watch Taken and WWZ, so they leave them uncut.
So... maybe this is better for people in the UK? Lol.
ViewtifulJC
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The first few minutes of Robocop has the hero getting his hand blown the fuck off by a shotgun, just straight up vanishing into blood.
Then he gets fucked up by a baptism of shotguns, blood spurts everywhere, arm flying off.
THEN he gets shot through the head. You actually see the bullet hole form in his head, no cut away or any of that shit. Just BAM.
Won't see that shit in a summer blockbuster these days, even though it's essentially a superhero origin story that's all the rage these days
Then he gets fucked up by a baptism of shotguns, blood spurts everywhere, arm flying off.
THEN he gets shot through the head. You actually see the bullet hole form in his head, no cut away or any of that shit. Just BAM.
Won't see that shit in a summer blockbuster these days, even though it's essentially a superhero origin story that's all the rage these days
Bobby Roberts
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I'm basically Devil's Advocating here, but:
There's more to a movie than its rating, and large parts of what made Robocop great had nothing to do with the language or the violence.
I'm not about to argue that a PG-13 won't be handicapping the potential of the film in some way. It will. The original movie was a black comedy. Really cynical satire. It's hard to hit the same depths if you've got caps on what you can say and what you can portray.
But hearing that the movie is going to be R shouldn't be reason alone to pass on it. That reduces the quality of a movie to nothing more than the quality of its special effects, the number of cursewords used, and Robocop has been, and can be, more than that.
There's more to a movie than its rating, and large parts of what made Robocop great had nothing to do with the language or the violence.
I'm not about to argue that a PG-13 won't be handicapping the potential of the film in some way. It will. The original movie was a black comedy. Really cynical satire. It's hard to hit the same depths if you've got caps on what you can say and what you can portray.
But hearing that the movie is going to be R shouldn't be reason alone to pass on it. That reduces the quality of a movie to nothing more than the quality of its special effects, the number of cursewords used, and Robocop has been, and can be, more than that.
Yeah, when "OG Robocop would be PG-13 today," my first thought was "Murphy's death scene."
Even if they censored the scene where they blew his arm clean off, that still would be Rated R.
For everything else, I guess they could cut-down the massive amount of cuss words, drug usage, attempted rape, impalement, ED-201 death scene, the mutant henchman's death, and Red Forman getting stabbed in the neck with a giant spike (true, the Batman movies never had that much blood, and did show people getting stabbed, but usually that was getting stabbed in the gut without blood whatsoever, not getting stabbed in the neck with a pike bigger than one's neck with blood squirts).
Even if they censored the scene where they blew his arm clean off, that still would be Rated R.
For everything else, I guess they could cut-down the massive amount of cuss words, drug usage, attempted rape, impalement, ED-201 death scene, the mutant henchman's death, and Red Forman getting stabbed in the neck with a giant spike (true, the Batman movies never had that much blood, and did show people getting stabbed, but usually that was getting stabbed in the gut without blood whatsoever, not getting stabbed in the neck with a pike bigger than one's neck with blood squirts).
ViewtifulJC
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Don't get twisted, Robocop works for a lot of reasons beyond just good ol' ultraviolence and curse words. But that shit had balls, Verhooven sized balls, not very secretly criticising American consumerism and bloodlust, while at the same time indulging the audience in those very things, all the while being a very engaging human story of triumphing over physical and psychological adversity.
PG-13 RoboCop could still be good, but to me it seems like a neutering of how far they can take what they want to say or how they want to do it.
The best thing about this film is that we'll finally get a decent blu-ray of the original Robocop, just like it took that totally unnecessary/glossy/mediocre Total Recall remake to get the original a proper Blu-Ray, too.
PG-13 RoboCop could still be good, but to me it seems like a neutering of how far they can take what they want to say or how they want to do it.
The best thing about this film is that we'll finally get a decent blu-ray of the original Robocop, just like it took that totally unnecessary/glossy/mediocre Total Recall remake to get the original a proper Blu-Ray, too.
SonicMegaDrive
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I totally forgot about that Total Recall remake. What a pleasure it was watching that pos bomb.
PK Strawstorm
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Jaws has nudity. It was rated PG.
Bobby Roberts
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This is a lot more in line with my take on the movie, and the remake doesn't seem like it's going to have much the same quality - but I'm willing to give it a shot.
The Dawn of the Dead remake doesn't share too many qualities with Romero's original, but it was very satisfying on its own merits, and I'm glad I saw it, and I consider it one of the best zombie movies ever, albeit for completely different reasons.
That said - at least the Dawn of the Dead remake was R.
Different times...
SonicMegaDrive
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Keep in mind, there was no PG-13 rating at that time. Spielberg's films were what started the movement to create an additional rating between 'PG' and 'R'.
Yeah, but the nudity in that is pretty damn obscured unless you turn up the brightness on your TV way the hell up.
That being said, there is no way in hell that Jaws would get a PG today, and I'm not even sure a PG-13 would be in the cards for it, especially for Quint's death. But that is the magic of the MPAA: unless you resubmit the film, the rating it gets is the rating it stays with.
Bobby Roberts
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This is true, but it wasn't Jaws - it was Temple of Doom & Gremlins.
SonicMegaDrive
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That's true. Though it's been said that if 'Jaws' were released today, it would probably be rated PG-13.
Chie Satonaka
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Okay, guys.
I know this is going to be terrible. Like, completely horrid.
But...
What if it isn't? What do we do then?
I know this is going to be terrible. Like, completely horrid.
But...
What if it isn't? What do we do then?
SonicMegaDrive
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Then we celebrate and shit our pants.
SonicMegaDrive
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Nevermore
Oh, man. Traditional effects, when done well, are amazing to me.
Bobby Roberts
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I dunno. I rewatched really recently (that blu-ray is PRISTINE) and..maybe Quint getting bitten on would bump it up to PG-13.
However - at this point, considering how stretched wide the PG-13 has gotten, to the point where G is a meaningless rating, and PG is considered to be as toothless as G once was, I wouldn't be surprised if it was PG-13 just because.
Yeah, but you post that gif in another thread, and make sure to follow it with a mildly-observant one-liner that's sorta funny? Watch the next 2 pages turn into sharks chumming that water.
Yeah, Quint's demise at the end assures that.
The new Robocop film has looked and sounded questionable from the start, but this seals it. Which is not to say they won't be able to make a good film with a PG-13. They just won't be able to make a Robocop movie I'm interested in with that rating.
Of course it would be PG-13 nowadays, you people don't know what you're....oH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
This gave me a great laugh.
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