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i like how you compare the oldest of the m4/3rds to newer ASPC. GF1 has been replaced with the GF2. The EP1 has had 2 cameras since it came out, both of which perform better.
RAW 1600 NEX5 and EPL1, the two newest of each camera system
raw3200 between NEX5 and EPL1
jpeg3200 NEX5 and EPL1
Jpeg 3200 is awful on both, this is why i shoot raw 100% of the time. As noise reducation algorithms get better in software i always have a RAW copy i can go back and make better as software gets better.
The RAW 3200 and RAW 1600 does not show a 2 stop difference between them. ASPC should be about 1 stop better than 4/3rds.
But as someone who owns and uses High ISO on an EP2, i can tell you that chroma noise like that is not present when viewing the picture at normal size.
These are 100% crops, which i've long contended are for gear heads that mostly like to brag about ISO. I print and sell my images, hang them in my home, therefore i am much more concerned how they look in print than how they look when zoomed 100% on a LCD monitor.
Do you watch your 1080p TV at 6" or do you go up to that artwork in the Louvre and stick your nose in it to view it? Because that's basically what your doing when you view pictures with 100% crops.
Buy whatever camera you want, I don't care, as i've always said every camera from every manufacturer is capable of doing awesome things. And as i've said now 3 times on this topic, both NEX and m4/3rds are going to offer significant improvement over a point and shoot(which i believe was the question posed, who knows at this point). I don't believe you are going to see much difference in real world scenarios with these cameras.
RAW 1600 NEX5 and EPL1, the two newest of each camera system
raw3200 between NEX5 and EPL1
jpeg3200 NEX5 and EPL1
Jpeg 3200 is awful on both, this is why i shoot raw 100% of the time. As noise reducation algorithms get better in software i always have a RAW copy i can go back and make better as software gets better.
The RAW 3200 and RAW 1600 does not show a 2 stop difference between them. ASPC should be about 1 stop better than 4/3rds.
But as someone who owns and uses High ISO on an EP2, i can tell you that chroma noise like that is not present when viewing the picture at normal size.
These are 100% crops, which i've long contended are for gear heads that mostly like to brag about ISO. I print and sell my images, hang them in my home, therefore i am much more concerned how they look in print than how they look when zoomed 100% on a LCD monitor.
Do you watch your 1080p TV at 6" or do you go up to that artwork in the Louvre and stick your nose in it to view it? Because that's basically what your doing when you view pictures with 100% crops.
Buy whatever camera you want, I don't care, as i've always said every camera from every manufacturer is capable of doing awesome things. And as i've said now 3 times on this topic, both NEX and m4/3rds are going to offer significant improvement over a point and shoot(which i believe was the question posed, who knows at this point). I don't believe you are going to see much difference in real world scenarios with these cameras.
345triangle
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speaking of high ISO in small cameras...
i really want this, the fuji natura classica. it's a 35mm compact that has a crazy "natural photo" mode for low-light shots when you load 800 or 1600 film, with awesome flashless results.
like so!
and that's ISO 400 with the little flash.
it's also over 30000 yen, so i dunno. i think i'm going to buy it though, i love the design and general idea of it.
i really want this, the fuji natura classica. it's a 35mm compact that has a crazy "natural photo" mode for low-light shots when you load 800 or 1600 film, with awesome flashless results.
like so!
and that's ISO 400 with the little flash.
it's also over 30000 yen, so i dunno. i think i'm going to buy it though, i love the design and general idea of it.
bggrthnjsus
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yeah i heard that the new firmware improved the ui greatly, but i wasn't aware that they had made all the manual controls instantly accessible. i was under the impression that sony was still aiming these at point and shoot users that want to step up into more manual controls, and therefore the default interface was still geared towards automatic controls, with the options to easily change your interface to more readily accesible dedicated manual controls. if that is true then i still stand by my statement, because i'm comparing an interface that is right out of the box with no user adjustments.mrklaw said:
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luoapp said:
captive said:
Thanks to both of you.
I will go and have a mess around with both of them, although the GF2 is swinging it at the moment simply because I think the range of lenses looks better & more versatile and people seem to update the camera bodies more frequently than the lenses which is something I expect to do. I just wish the GF2 had the new GH2 sensor as it looks very impressive!
I'm currently hesitating between three DSLRs for Christmas, the K5, D7000, and 60D.
I'd use it primarily for outdoor photography, but will do a bit of everything else as well, including video. I have no real collection of lenses yet, so I'm not tied to any brand (my previous camera was an F55 with the default kit lens, so no big loss if I go over to Pentax or Canon).
What would you guys recommend? And what lens(es) should I start off with? Thanks =)
I'd use it primarily for outdoor photography, but will do a bit of everything else as well, including video. I have no real collection of lenses yet, so I'm not tied to any brand (my previous camera was an F55 with the default kit lens, so no big loss if I go over to Pentax or Canon).
What would you guys recommend? And what lens(es) should I start off with? Thanks =)
Forsete
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Was this posted?
Sony announced that they are working on a Super35 CMOS E-mount videocamera (same mount with the NEX is using).
This is the prototype
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9gmjjFF89I&feature=player_embedded
Yay for more E-mount support. Should result in more lenses.
Sony announced that they are working on a Super35 CMOS E-mount videocamera (same mount with the NEX is using).
This is the prototype
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9gmjjFF89I&feature=player_embedded
Yay for more E-mount support. Should result in more lenses.
MagniHarvald said:
Pentax has great older lenses for cheap but the K5 is a few hundred more than the D7000 which shares the same sensor.
D7000 will get the same excellent image quality from the K5 and Nikon has great lenses as well. Although you don't get autofocus with AI-mount lenses at least they will meter properly.
60D, its the cheapest of the bunch and will take great pics but at this price point its more in line with the Nikon D90 and Pentax K-7. The 7D is a beast and that is more in line with the K5 and D7000.
MagniHarvald said:
Usually cameras that offer weather sealing start at higher pricepoints but you do need to buy the WR lenses to be safe.
Shooting in cold temps is not something I've done for extended periods of time though so I can't comment how my Nikon handled when I was in Colorado.
good weather sealing is not marketing bull.MagniHarvald said:
All of Olympus' High Grade and Super High Grade glass is weather sealed, the E1, E3 and E5 are all weather sealed. Their weather sealing is damn good and they guarantee it as well.
There is a video of one of the pre-production model E5's being fully submerged underwater while recording the video. Not recommended, but thats how good the seals are.
I have heard the Pentax K-x is also well sealed but I don't know about the lenses.
MidgarBlowedUp
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Hi guys. I'm thinking of upgrading my camera body this Christmas as I really want a camera that shoots with less noise at higher ISO settings and accepts EF lenses.
I would like to stick with a Canon EOS since I currently own an EOS 10D Body + EF 50mm f/1.8 II & Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG APO
nvm. the T1i I was looking at was the only one at that price. I'm either picking up a 20D or an XTi as they both cost around $250 used. I'll probably get the 20D although, on paper, the XTi sounds like the better camera. However, the 20D has a slightly larger sensor size and should have a better feel and controls
I would like to stick with a Canon EOS since I currently own an EOS 10D Body + EF 50mm f/1.8 II & Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG APO
nvm. the T1i I was looking at was the only one at that price. I'm either picking up a 20D or an XTi as they both cost around $250 used. I'll probably get the 20D although, on paper, the XTi sounds like the better camera. However, the 20D has a slightly larger sensor size and should have a better feel and controls
sadaiyappan
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My mom took this with my brother's DSLR and this really expensive lense he has for it. That's him on the left, and me on the right.
The_Inquisitor
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I want to buy my sister a new camera. It needs to be at least compact size, though ultracompact is preferred. The big stickler is that she likes having a viewfinder, so that eliminates the more recent powershots from Canon. Any suggestions?
sadaiyappan
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The_Inquisitor
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Sadaiyappan said:
I know that. :lol :lol I was looking at the sd1100 since she loves Canon so much. She would never go for the G10. :lol :lol
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The_Inquisitor said:
canon s95?
vitaminwateryum
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Im going to buy myself the Nikkor 85mm f/1.8. I've looked at reviews online and it seems to be one of the better lenses to get. Anyone have any personal experience with it?
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Held a 60D in my hand today. Having been using a Rebel XT for three years I popped a mental boner.
captive said:
This we can agree on. I was probably exaggerating with the '2 stops' comment, but I was just trying to counter what I saw as unfair criticism of the NEX.
I agree that any mirrorless camera will be a good step up from a point and shoot, and much closer to proper DSLRs. Base your choice on form factor, how it feels to hold (very important when specs are so close relatively speaking), lens availability etc.
possibility of rd-2!!!
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/epson_mulls_future_digital_camera_launch_news_304018.html
I had chance to play with a friend's rd-1. It is such a cool and fun camera.
You need to cock the shuttle manually / amount of space left in memory is represented by an analog indicator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OZ6leqLzNA
It would be interesting if epson modernizes a lot of stuff on this and sell it for a cheaper price.
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/epson_mulls_future_digital_camera_launch_news_304018.html
I had chance to play with a friend's rd-1. It is such a cool and fun camera.
You need to cock the shuttle manually / amount of space left in memory is represented by an analog indicator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OZ6leqLzNA
It would be interesting if epson modernizes a lot of stuff on this and sell it for a cheaper price.
Danielsan said:
You didn't do any research?
Anything that isn't AF-S won't autofocus with your D3100.
The best alternative is the 35mm f/1.8 AF-S. I've been 50mm to be a bit difficult to shoot all the time especially indoors on a APS-C camera. If you must have a 50mm lens then your only other option is the Nikon AF-S 50mm
Bringing the level of this thread down from the expensive to the low-medium point and shoot cameras!
Christmas gift time and I'm looking at 3 cameras in the £99 range.
It's for the folks so has to be super easy to use with decent picture quality.
3 cameras in this price catch the eye:
Sony DSC-W320
Canon IXUS 105
Panasonic Lumix FS-10.
Any picks out of the bunch?
Christmas gift time and I'm looking at 3 cameras in the £99 range.
It's for the folks so has to be super easy to use with decent picture quality.
3 cameras in this price catch the eye:
Sony DSC-W320
Canon IXUS 105
Panasonic Lumix FS-10.
Any picks out of the bunch?
345triangle
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well at that level "picture quality" is more-or-less irrelevant, because they will basically all be as close to identical as makes no difference. far more important is your subjective impression of how they handle, fit in your pocket etc.
Oldschoolgamer
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Aight, so I got the t2i and I am getting the 50mm lens. My friend has an old 80mm lens (it's a cannon lens) that I need an adapter to for to use. What's a good one to use.
Oh, and I love this camera. lol
Oh, and I love this camera. lol
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navanman said:
at that price just go with the cheapest, quality is probably the same you need to go to 300-500 range of point of shoot to even see a image quality difference.
On a seperate note, why the fuck did the GF1 go up in prices!!! GF2 coming out you would think GF1 would get cheaper!
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NEOGERF Need your advice i am thinking of getting a DMC LX5 with the electronic view finder
but i've been advised by my pro photo friend to go for S95. But i'm am a brand whore and want the Fake Leica digital, total cost for package would be 450 vs 399-300 for the S95. This will replace my 6 year old DSC P150 from 2004. I still shoot with my SLR on FILM but i like a high powered P&S to replace my ancient workhorse.
Help me decide!
but i've been advised by my pro photo friend to go for S95. But i'm am a brand whore and want the Fake Leica digital, total cost for package would be 450 vs 399-300 for the S95. This will replace my 6 year old DSC P150 from 2004. I still shoot with my SLR on FILM but i like a high powered P&S to replace my ancient workhorse.
Help me decide!
UnluckyKate
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Okay GAF, I'm going for a 7D (the question is, before or after christmas though) but I'm selling my current gear. How much, do you think I can get for a one year old 450D (10 000 takes) with 17-85 USM (with UV filter and hood) ? more or less than 600 euros ?
From what I've read, the bigger issue is once you bring it back inside. Going from a cold to warm environment can cause condensation to build up on the camera. I believe that you'll want some ziplock bags, maybe a towel. When you are finished shooting outside wrap your camera and lenses in towels and put it in the ziplock bags and seal them up. Once you bring the camera back indoors wait a while to let the camera come back up to temp before taking it out of the back or else you run the risk of having condensation accumulate on the camera.Alucrid said:
If you are actually outside and shooting when it is snowing you probably want to have some sort of weather cover/protection for the camera.
I've never really done any cold environment shooting though so hopefully others with more experience will also respond.
RapidCancel
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So would anyone be able to point me to some tutorials for basic things on photography like iso, white balance, shutter speed, etc. I've been using my d40 for awhile but it doesn't feel like I fully grasp the basics.
You could probably find a book like Understanding Exposure at a local store. They had it at the barnes and noble near me.
It's really easy once you memorize the mountain of technical terminology.
It's really easy once you memorize the mountain of technical terminology.
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