The Official Grand Theft Auto IV thread: The World Is Yours
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Stoney Mason
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ezekial45 said:
There are a number of random one off encounter missions you can have with people. Pretty cool actually. Although I only came across like three in my first play through.
:lol This is from Live. In which case, I can't imagine how shitty it was on PSN pre-patch.BobFromPikeCreek said:
I'll agree with this. My SP "issues" have to do with only few on the tech side, but mostly on the design and lack of variety and options for no reason other than that's apparently where they wanted to take the series.Stoney Mason said:
MP on the other hand is most definitely "broken".
ezekial45 said:
There are a bunch of random encounters throughout the game like that. Did the crackhead give you $100? That's the first of 3 of his missions.
http://grandtheftauto.ign.com/maps/1/Liberty-City-Map
On the legend to the right of that map go all the way down to NPCs then select Person (Contact). That'll show you the locations of at least the 1st random encounter missions.
Stoney Mason
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BobFromPikeCreek said:
It's barely stable on XBL so it must be a nightmare on PSN.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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BobFromPikeCreek said:
Last i checked, if you kill someone important and his role is done, it's done. The game doesn't "punish" you. I have not killed people at instances where i had to execute them. Sometimes it rewards you by giving a few extra sidequests
e.g. Dwayne's girlfriend
e.g. that dude wearing the number 27 jersey outside a building (alonzo, i think) for he contacts the rest that you're coming into the building
I have not reached where you are, but from what i understand it won't affect anything.
Honestly (at least on Live) the biggest problem with multi is that it depends completely on the host to create a good game. And there are so many options that many hosts will fuck things up one way or another. If they had a good server list it would be a solid if slightly buggy online experience.
BobFromPikeCreek
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Which is why I hate the fact that you have to get lucky to host. It's retarded. Let the competent people choose to host, dammit.AstroLad said:
Stoney Mason
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AstroLad said:
Yep. They should have locked down the options and divide those few debatable options into playlists like auto aim, free-aim (along with showing me the number of people in a playlist) and only leave the options for unranked or private games. Hell there is an option for playing music in the lobby. Just play the fucking music and leave out the option. Console matchmaking has to be smooth and simple you can't let the hosts fuck up the game with a ton of options. I hate the in lobby fight over options that invariably happens everytime I play which has everybody yelling at the host. If they had only copied some of the more successful matchmaking systems like Halo 3 or COD 4, most of this wouldn't be an issue.
BobFromPikeCreek
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Fuck matchmaking all together. Fuck it to hell. It's stupid, counterintuitive bullshit designed to simplify things for morons. Give me lobbies or give me death, assholes.Stoney Mason said:
Hahahah
I was going down the wrong way on a one way street (as you do) and crashed into a car (as you do). Afterwards, as I tried to maneuver my way through, I noticed the guy I crashed into was stumbling out of his car on fire! So I drive ahead a ways to see what'll happen and watch as he collapses. When he falls, his car starts on fire. So at this point I'm thinking cool, this'll be fun, cuz there's a bit of a traffic jam and I want to see if all of these cars will explode. So I drive ahead a bit more (just in case) and get ready for the fireworks. One car, two then three cars explode in fiery glory. The fourth is on fire and finally explodes, but this one sends a dead, flaming body hurtling towards me! It bounces and slides along the street right into my tire, which catches fire and pops, thankfully sparing me and my vehicle.
This is the best random moment I've ever had in a video game.
I was going down the wrong way on a one way street (as you do) and crashed into a car (as you do). Afterwards, as I tried to maneuver my way through, I noticed the guy I crashed into was stumbling out of his car on fire! So I drive ahead a ways to see what'll happen and watch as he collapses. When he falls, his car starts on fire. So at this point I'm thinking cool, this'll be fun, cuz there's a bit of a traffic jam and I want to see if all of these cars will explode. So I drive ahead a bit more (just in case) and get ready for the fireworks. One car, two then three cars explode in fiery glory. The fourth is on fire and finally explodes, but this one sends a dead, flaming body hurtling towards me! It bounces and slides along the street right into my tire, which catches fire and pops, thankfully sparing me and my vehicle.
This is the best random moment I've ever had in a video game.
Stoney Mason
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BobFromPikeCreek said:
I've played lobbies for years and on consoles I just want a matchmaking system that maximizes my fun time. COD 4 and Halo 3 are perfect systems for consoles for me.
Stoney Mason
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chubigans said:
Oh yes it does. And it has strong lag issues.
I don't know what kind of problems you guys have had on Live, but the biggest problem with the PS3 version's online mode is getting a good host and a full room.Stoney Mason said:
PS
I've occasionally seen lag but only when riding in a car with one of my teammates as the driver.
Stoney Mason
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chubigans said:Really? From some GAFfers I got the impression the framerate was much more solid on multi 360 than multi PS3.
Maybe you're just having a string of bad luck with the hosts or something.
Anything is possible but I doubt it. With all that firing and all those people in a relatively small area like the gameplay tends to revolve around it's bound to take a mammoth hit frame rate wise. Of course I generally play Team Death Match and try to wait for 16 players so some of it is understandable but still it does hamper quality of play and combined with lag it can be brutal.
X26 said:
i got hit with the rocket launcher and i thought i was fucked, suddenly it skips to a cut scene and my chopper lands despite being on fire, i already failed the first time on the bike as it was night and i couldnt see the coast line so i thought i lost again.. when i finally landed i shot Dmitri but the cops were shooting me and i had no armor.. killed D with the tiniest bit of red health.. phew
I suppose it's also dependent on who you play with. The hosts connection, his location relative to everyone's, his game options, the amount of players etc. As I said, it's good and fun when you have a good host who knows what he's doing, but that's few and FAR between. I'm certainly giving Rockstar their fair share of responsibility for the shittyness as well.chubigans said:
I'd pretty much say my good to bad MP experience ratio stands at 40:60. Which is totally unexceptable when in the other games I usually play, the good experience is in the high 90th percentile.
On the subject of the MP framerate: What's weird is I haven't had any real issues with it. I've heard people go on mid-fight about how their framerate took a dive, but I'm right there with them and didn't experience it. So I'm not sure if they're confusing it with lag on their end.
wayward archer
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Maybe I've just been lucky but multiplayer has run flawlessly for me on the 360.
At this point the only thing I really want is an option to just join no auto-aim games. I'd rather not use it, but if other people are using it, you pretty much have to as well to stay competitive. I don't hate auto-aim games, they just aren't as fun.
There's a bunch of other minor changes I'd make but that one would be #1 on my list. Otherwise my experience with it in multiplayer has been phenomenal. I've pretty much determined that this game is all I'll be playing for the next few months.
At this point the only thing I really want is an option to just join no auto-aim games. I'd rather not use it, but if other people are using it, you pretty much have to as well to stay competitive. I don't hate auto-aim games, they just aren't as fun.
There's a bunch of other minor changes I'd make but that one would be #1 on my list. Otherwise my experience with it in multiplayer has been phenomenal. I've pretty much determined that this game is all I'll be playing for the next few months.
I can't believe they left out garages in this game. I really wish I had saved the Infernus at one of my home spots. Now I have to way to get another one. I can't remember where the spot was that
so there is no way to figure out if it re spawns or not.
The car save function works some of the time, but doesn't seem to be very consistent. I've already lost the Japanese Motorcycle you get when
even though I saved it in front of my house.
I don't think it deserves a 10/10 either. The missions are predictable, and it's just too hard to keep the awesome cars. I end up stealing Turismo's over and over again from the dealership, which is better than nothing, but it'd be nice if I could find another FUCKING INFERNUS and save it in a garage.
Bernie leaves it
The car save function works some of the time, but doesn't seem to be very consistent. I've already lost the Japanese Motorcycle you get when
you kill the guy in the Chinese restaurant
I don't think it deserves a 10/10 either. The missions are predictable, and it's just too hard to keep the awesome cars. I end up stealing Turismo's over and over again from the dealership, which is better than nothing, but it'd be nice if I could find another FUCKING INFERNUS and save it in a garage.
BenjaminBirdie
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atomsk said:
You can't use them, though. You just doodie the cars you steal for other people there.
BakedPigeon
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Add the gamertag "GAFGTAIV" to your freindslist if you would like to play online with other gaffers. Just use the view friends of a friend feature to see who is playing.
Darkflight
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No, you don't, you can escape anyway you want, car, boat etc. I don't get why the "outrun" the cops is confusing so many people, I don't remember playing a man sprinting in Outrun, I'm pretty sure there was a carLabel said:
Regarding the MP....I remember reading an EGM MP preview a month or 2 back. IN this preview i found it VERY disturbing that they said while they were there, they could only get the smaller groups (4-8 players i think it was) to work right. Even if the interview and preview took place 2 or 3 months before the article was published that should have been at least seen as potentially problematic.
I remember htinking to myself, wow why don't they seem to have any concern about this? I know that previewers often dont like to talk to much about those types of issues as they could and often are ironed out before the final build. BUT there are also PLENTY of instances where games are shipped before they are ready.
I think R* was under alot of pressure to release this game when they did. They dont seem to keen to be bought by EA. If another big delay was anounced, I can imagine that "hostile takeover" going down quite a bit differently.
For a game like GTAIV there comes a point where they can be pretty confident the game will sell big, and they know they can always patch the game later.
Only time will tell whether the online will be "fixed" completely, but truth be tiold I would have bought the game without online, so the fact that i can fuck around the wolrd with multiple friends is cool enough hwere im not going to be to upset.
I remember htinking to myself, wow why don't they seem to have any concern about this? I know that previewers often dont like to talk to much about those types of issues as they could and often are ironed out before the final build. BUT there are also PLENTY of instances where games are shipped before they are ready.
I think R* was under alot of pressure to release this game when they did. They dont seem to keen to be bought by EA. If another big delay was anounced, I can imagine that "hostile takeover" going down quite a bit differently.
For a game like GTAIV there comes a point where they can be pretty confident the game will sell big, and they know they can always patch the game later.
Only time will tell whether the online will be "fixed" completely, but truth be tiold I would have bought the game without online, so the fact that i can fuck around the wolrd with multiple friends is cool enough hwere im not going to be to upset.
Stoney Mason
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BobM said:
It's not the end of the world or anything it is just very disappointing. COD 4 was my game of the year last year and I find the single player to be a big chore and not worth bothering in it so I'm always a little lenient if a game isn't the complete package but exceptional in either aspect not to mention the reason people are buying GTA 4 in mass numbers like this is definitely for the single player.
I wasn't even hyped or cared that much about the multiplayer until the big multiplayer preview blowout thing. It is dissappointing because so much could have been fixed with just a simple matchmaking sysem in place. Also it's not like COD where you use to get a new one every year so they could just fix the issues you didn't like in the prior year. (Although I doubt the next GTA will take as long as this one did clearly)
Stoney Mason
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The other sad aspect is that occasionally you get a game that is extremly fun and makes you realize what the mp mode could be. I just had a great 3 team, 4 player a piece sniper rifle match at the airport. Good stuff. Now if I could somehow get to the good stuff and the stuff I want a lot more often that would be something.
I'm on if anyone is playing tonight GT: Cavaliereeche in between watching the office and playing 30 rock.
I'm on if anyone is playing tonight GT: Cavaliereeche in between watching the office and playing 30 rock.
SlasherJPC
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atomsk said:
How ya get the bike up there @_@
gnarkill bill
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Cheats.