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[Rektash]

Can Makoto win at least one matchup...

I loled when they called her low tier Makoto in the stream :lol.

Juri looks great, definitly will try her out!

 

[Lafiel]

I loled when they called her low tier Makoto in the stream :lol.

Juri looks great, definitly will try her out!

If she is low-tier in SSFIV. I might cry.>_>

 

[Arde5643]

Can Makoto win at least one matchup...

So she sucks against Gief/Hawk/Guile/etc.

Man... and I wanted her as my sub.

 

[DR2K]

Viper vs Ibuki is really fun.

 

[IntelliHeath]

it suck to see a lot of people swarm to T.Hawk because he will be higher tier, awhile few of us who have been maining t.hawk since SSF2 have to deal with people who are focused on top tier/high tier only.

 

[Hitokage]

Can Makoto win at least one matchup...

Makoto was falling for way too much of Rufus's crap, just like with any other character when the player isn't familiar with Rufus. I really don't think that was the best Makoto could do.

 

[jman2050]

haunts isn't doing a very good job convincing us that he knows Makoto well enough to assess her ability.

 

[Kintaro]

I think I'm a stubborn dude. The more I saw Makoto fall, the more I want to main her. Unleash the moe Kratos rage!

 

[Dice]

it suck to see a lot of people swarm to T.Hawk because he will be higher tier, awhile few of us who have been maining t.hawk since SSF2 have to deal with people who are focused on top tier/high tier only.

Or maybe they just finally got his recipe right and it's so delicious that few can resist. I know to me he just seems to flow so much more nicely than ever before.

 

[Pandaman]

I think I'm a stubborn dude. The more I saw Makoto fall, the more I want to main her. Unleash the moe Kratos rage!

thats the spirit.

srsly, haunts makoto neutral jumps more than my sakura. i didn't think that was possible.

 

[Caj814]

I weep for Fei Longs Ultra II :lol :lol :lol

Abel does Ultra II
COME AT ME FROM ANY DIREC-
KO
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!

 

[DR2K]

I weep for Fei Longs Ultra II :lol :lol :lol

Counter Ultras will make for a few good laughs before they become totally sad.

 

[Darkman M]

I thought T-Hawk was suppose to be garbage in this game?

 

[XenoRaven]

I thought T-Hawk was suppose to be garbage in this game?

Speculation before seeing gameplay footage is fun!

 

[DryEyeRelief]

I thought T-Hawk was suppose to be garbage in this game?

? All the impressions before pointed to him being one of the strongest of the newcomers.


Edit: Well, except the very first impression where Marn bashed the character.

 

[Darkman M]

I could have swore wong or marn and others said he was trash when he first was introduced.:lol

 

[kitzkozan]

I thought T-Hawk was suppose to be garbage in this game?

I don't recall anyone saying that except Marn when he was unveiled.

I think Marn was saying: T.Hawk=good damage/command grab,but no combo or setup so he's crap. :lol He never seemed bad to me and he's not a character who will rely on combo to win.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I swear capcom plays favorites when it comes to moves...

 

[Darkman M]

I don't recall anyone saying that except Marn when he was unveiled.

I think Marn was saying: T.Hawk=good damage/command grab,but no combo or setup so he's crap. :lol He never seemed bad to me and he's not a character who will rely on combo to win.

Ok maybe that's where i got that from, but T-Hawk looks damn nice.

 

[KaYotiX]

Give it a few days after release and i bet T.Hawk becomes average once ppl figure out how to stay away then punish, just like with Gief. Ive always like T.hawk since his arrival in the SF series though

 

[Rentahamster]

Cody doesn't seem to be using the knife very much. On purpose? Is it not that good?

 

[n3ss]

Give it a few days after release and i bet T.Hawk becomes average once ppl figure out how to stay away then punish, just like with Gief. Ive always like T.hawk since his arrival in the SF series though

Personally, I think T-Hawk is underestimated...

Nice job Richard, Haunts, S-Kill, A_Rival, and Magus1234!

 

[ggd210]

The Vanilla mistery solved!!!
Guys....Thanks, Gracias, Mersi, Arigato, Shukran, Gracie, Spasiva, Elef todot!!

 

[XenoRaven]

Yep, thanks again for the stream guys. It was fun.

 

[Stabby McSter]

Cody doesn't seem to be using the knife very much. On purpose? Is it not that good?

It's probably a hassle to pick it up. Once you get hit once, you drop the knife.

But it does decent chip damage so it's really up to the player's style I suppose.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

They said it's really to drop the knife. Even his taunt drops the knife. I didn't play much of Cody in A3 so I'm unsure of how useful it was but it looks like it's good for chipping and throwing it across when the match is down the wire.

 

[QisTopTier]

Give it a few days after release and i bet T.Hawk becomes average once ppl figure out how to stay away then punish, just like with Gief. Ive always like T.hawk since his arrival in the SF series though

kinda hard to keep away when he shoves his foot in your face from half way across the screen <3 :lol

 

[Teknopathetic]

From what I've read, Cody loses the ability to cancel from c.hp? with the knife. Might also be the case for a few other normals as well.

 

[Augemitbutter]

Give it a few days after release and i bet T.Hawk becomes average once ppl figure out how to stay away then punish, just like with Gief. Ive always like T.hawk since his arrival in the SF series though

just like gief? :lol people will swarm over to t.hawk if he's anywhere near zangief-level of power.

 

[n3ss]

It's probably a hassle to pick it up. Once you get hit once, you drop the knife.

But it does decent chip damage so it's really up to the player's style I suppose.

Cody with the knife is good. Especially towards the end of a match.

 

[GotchaForce]

The Vanilla mistery solved!!!
Guys....Thanks, Gracias, Mersi, Arigato, Shukran, Gracie, Spasiva, Elef todot!!

What?

 

[haunts]

thanks for tuning in guys.. was a lot of fun, sorry we couldnt play everyone.

really tried with makoto but she is pretty rough. once they get away from you its hard to get them back in your grip. the karakusa just doesnt work the same as it used to so I am sticking by what I said before that I think she will probably do better in hands of players who are new to her and can look at her with an open mind. I think she has some good tools but against grapplers and super rushdown characters its hard to keep people off of you.

on the other hand, cody is a ton of fun. learned even more about him today so more of his game is coming together for sure. he has his own challenges against grapplers though, and honestly not sure who is going to put gief and thawk in check at this point. sagat is pretty weak, he can do it but has to play flawlessly.

 

[Hitokage]

So who was playing T. Hawk all that time?

 

[haunts]

haha arival played thawk a lot. man he is gonna be a situation.he does so much damage and is just a tank. magus and i were talking and not really sure which character will keep him in check.

 

[Arde5643]

thanks for tuning in guys.. was a lot of fun, sorry we couldnt play everyone.

really tried with makoto but she is pretty rough. once they get away from you its hard to get them back in your grip. the karakusa just doesnt work the same as it used to so I am sticking by what I said before that I think she will probably do better in hands of players who are new to her and can look at her with an open mind. I think she has some good tools but against grapplers and super rushdown characters its hard to keep people off of you.

on the other hand, cody is a ton of fun. learned even more about him today so more of his game is coming together for sure. he has his own challenges against grapplers though, and honestly not sure who is going to put gief and thawk in check at this point. sagat is pretty weak, he can do it but has to play flawlessly.

Good show, Haunts - much thanks for your crew for the stream.

What do you think of the lower tiers' viability against the new cast so far?

Sucks we didn't get to see anyone play Fuerte, Claw, Dan, or Rose.
I want to see how viable they are with the new changes against the new cast.

In any case, after watching Guile in some games, do you think he'll get beaten to the curb by the new cast?

 

[Hitokage]

haha arival played thawk a lot. man he is gonna be a situation.he does so much damage and is just a tank. magus and i were talking and not really sure which character will keep him in check.

Given that Abel was able to punish his dive with soulless, it's at least -14. Then again, even THAT didn't do nearly enough damage. :/

 

[Arde5643]

Given that Abel was able to punish his dive with soulless, it's at least -14. Then again, even THAT didn't do nearly enough damage. :/

T.hawk seems to be doing too much damage and having too much health - basically vanilla Gief.

Hopefully they can fix it either by nerfing his damage or health. Still it's only a month away so that's probably impossible.

 

[Hitokage]

I dunno, it might just be a matter of figuring out what to do because his strategy is really direct and really basic.

In style and probably gameplay too, T. Hawk is the least technical character in the game.

 

[haunts]

Good show, Haunts - much thanks for your crew for the stream.

What do you think of the lower tiers' viability against the new cast so far?

Sucks we didn't get to see anyone play Fuerte, Claw, Dan, or Rose.
I want to see how viable they are with the new changes against the new cast.

In any case, after watching Guile in some games, do you think he'll get beaten to the curb by the new cast?

hmm... i like guiles new ultra but didnt play him much. he can at least use sonic hurricane and possibly get damage. he seems safe afterwards? not sure but at least he isnt like up int he air like he was with the other one super easy to punish.

 

[XenoRaven]

Yeah. I was shocked to see T. Hawk's standing HK has more range than Abel's standing MK.

 

[Gr1mLock]

T.hawk seems to be doing too much damage and having too much health - basically vanilla Gief.

Hopefully they can fix it either by nerfing his damage or health. Still it's only a month away so that's probably impossible.

im pretty sure the final versions are being manufactured as we speak..if they havent been already.

 

[KaYotiX]

just like gief? :lol people will swarm over to t.hawk if he's anywhere near zangief-level of power.

Ive never had much of a problem facing Gief players. I main chun so i know its not my char choice that makes the difference.(maybe bad gief players?? i dunnno lol)
Also, do you think Capcom made T.Hawk more powerful just becasue so many people hate on him? Like a cruel joke from the SF team...
but anyways, SSF4 is going to take a good chunk of my game time this year just like SF4 did, and now it has 10 more chars and a better online focus? HELL YEAH!!

EDIT: awesome showing btw Haunts !!

 

[Hitokage]

Thinking about it, Akuma can be extremely lame and probably do well against T. Hawk. Lots of fireballs, air fireballs, and teleporting.

Of course, if he fucks up he's dead...

 

[haunts]

i think juri will do well but the thing is thawk has so much life its ridiculous. he does so much damage too its like .... i dont even know..his normals are so good..

 

[Teknopathetic]

Good shit on the stream. Couldn't catch all of it, but I popped in and out as much as possible. Yo haunts, can Cody cancel into Fake Bad Stone?

Also, T. Hawk's S. Roundhouse, LOL.

 

[Rentahamster]

d not really sure which character will keep him in check.

Dhalsim.


Believe.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

i think juri will do well but the thing is thawk has so much life its ridiculous. he does so much damage too its like .... i dont even know..his normals are so good..

Hawk supposedly has the most at 1150, right? Does that mean that Rufus' health was reduced? Or is he tied for first?

 

[KaYotiX]

Thinking about it, Akuma can be extremely lame and probably do well against T. Hawk. Lots of fireballs, air fireballs, and teleporting.

Of course, if he fucks up he's dead...

I could see a good Sim player totally mess with T. Hawk also, then again like you said if he gets caught BYE BYE Sim LOL!

 

[haunts]

Good shit on the stream. Couldn't catch all of it, but I popped in and out as much as possible. Yo haunts, can Cody cancel into Fake Bad Stone?

Also, T. Hawk's S. Roundhouse, LOL.

havent tried it. learned a lot of shit about cody tonight though. he is so awesome. he will take a certain type of player to do well with him though i think. you have to constantly switch between playing solid and goofy. its just odd play style but its really fun.

 

[Killa Sasa]

at T.Hawk's fierce 720. Ridiculous damage.

Watching Sagat fight him was actually really fun to watch to. Tiger Cannon seems like a pretty solid ultra. I can appreciate great Sagat play even more now, zoning wasn't always easy against Gief in Vanilla, now it looks like a pain in the ass against Hawk :lol.

I hope you keep playing Sagat on the side at the very least Haunts, I like watching yours and other good ones that know what they're doing.

Evo is gonna be awesome this year, looks like my first one is going to be awesome Can't wait to see a T. Hawk or Guy or some other surprise character absolutely rip through pools.