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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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ISIS is the new Godwins law of internet conversation now.
Ricky Ricardo
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You get actual in-game benefits for getting the QTEs right in Ryse ...
CaptainGyro
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Jealous person? Yep. jealous person
Uhhh, I don't know what threads you were reading, but I don't remember the media or very many other people hyping this game up. People have been pretty skeptical from the start.
NullPointer
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Not really. Ryse's core combat QTEs are player driven and the button presses aren't arbitrary (like you see in some QTEs). And messing them up isn't an instant fail.
Its amazing how much of a difference player agency makes. I hate timed missions in games for instance. I just can't fucking stand them. But if the timer comes about because I chose to set some up some dynamite somewhere with a timer then its an amazing way to add tension.
How much shit did Eurogamer get for that "You might want to hold off on Pre ordering Order:1886"
And now its Eurogamers (and others) fault for hyping it somehow?
Edit: Found it http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=950824
Look at this shit.
This video is still funny after 4 years
ArkhamFantasy
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He insulted a game because of his own incompetence, you dont think a professional should be criticized for such a thing?
His tweet about the order was also extremely childish, its something i would expect from a 13 year old.
It is like a celebration. I don't think it's funny at all honestly. Yearly trash like Asscreed and COD don't even get this much criticism and those games are recycled marketing fuck you in the ass machines.
Here's something a little different from the norm and it gets "lolololololololololol WTF is this shit moviessssnogameplay5hourcrap lol RAD fail"
And people wonder why developers don't take risk anymore.
freenudemacusers
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wait did someone bring up isis in here? have we crossed that bridge?
on the plus side, it only took a hundred plus (?@?!?!?!) pages for it to happen.
and i'm not sure how this is different from the norm. I remember playing a lot of CD-i and FMV adventure games back in the day hoho!
on the plus side, it only took a hundred plus (?@?!?!?!) pages for it to happen.
nah the game is getting dooked on mostly because platform fanboys can't help but act like any criticism of this game is tantamount to kicking a baby or throwing a bag of kittens in a river.
and i'm not sure how this is different from the norm. I remember playing a lot of CD-i and FMV adventure games back in the day hoho!
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
He did it in print, and rather than retracting or apologizing for it he came on GAF and argued with people over it. It didn't end well
Can I just leave this Modern Game Journalism video here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1sklmOR9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1sklmOR9E
While this is true it has to be a little unsettling to PS4 owners that some of Sony's big franchises like Infamous, LBP and Killzone have already come out and none are all that great. Especially when we also had sub-standard God of War and Gran Turismo games at the end of last gen. It's like, what is happening to Sony's studios? The only one that can really be relied upon right now is ND. When was the last time Sony released a really good game not by ND on console?
It just doesn't create a good outlook for the console when first and second party games are consistantly disappointing.
Did you not see the part where he actually apologized? Got to be mad at something though I guess. Calling someone a "fucking clown" because they said something bad about a game you like is something I would expect from a 13 year old.
That's specifically making reference to the combat executions. They layered over the normal kill/finish animations, so you could replenish one of several resources as long as you were controlling the pace of the fight. It only worked on weakened enemies, and was always triggered by the player, so it didn't interrupt the game or take the place of other interactions. The real strategies came in getting two or more enemies in the same fatigued state and "cashing in" the execution, because the multiplier bonus for getting more than one kill was big. It was a risk-reward system.
They're two completely different things, and you should know from reading the reviews that it's not hypocritical.
Here's a more visual review summary from allgamesbeta.com :
As always, GAF blows it out of proportions.
Twitch livestreams:
http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/The Order: 1886
This is hands down the best looking console game I've ever laid eyes on.
As always, GAF blows it out of proportions.
Twitch livestreams:
http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/The Order: 1886
This is hands down the best looking console game I've ever laid eyes on.
I don't own a PS4
Uhhhh speak for yourself. I like Infamous and LBP.
They still exhibit the "mindless push-the-button-to-make-some-cool-thing-happen moments" in Ryse that he was praising about that "only videogames can manage." Not a huge fan of QTEs but the execution is the same, it's "mindless" in both forms.
lolosgolos
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Gross and unprofessional:
Journalists are taking the piss now at this stage. Not fair on the devs who spent 5 years of their lives creating this game.
Lol silly Journalists
I've always been sympathetic to that because I did the exact same thing and was stuck trying to fish for like a half hour. Why is the fishing trainer not at the beginner level fishing place? It is absurd.
I really like Nier.
fluffydelusions
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Same. Infamous SS and First light are both solid games IMO
I am right there with you. I feel like I rarely find things on the gaming side of this website to be funny (I especially loathe the Hitler remakes and that new one from yesterday). The head nod gifs, however, I will always enjoy.
On Topic: The piling on happens in many other mediums so I am not surprised, I just feel like it is quite excessive. I wasn't planning on buying this anyway, so don't take this as a defense or post-purchase bias.
R&C: A Crack In Time?
I'm confused. I think we're on the same page? The other poster made it sound like the game was some media and fan darling that built this game up to be big. I was saying no, most of the media, like Eurogamer and consumers on forums at least have seen skeptical from the start about potential game mechanics and cut scenes. As in these scores and reactions could be seen from a mile away, and there was no or not a lot of "Hype through the roof".
Especially First Light.
Air Zombie Meat
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I'm guessing it's a joke based on the title The Order. Orders of food, geddit?
Or that :S
ShockingAlberto
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I don't think co-op, at least, would be conducive to the kind of game they made. Multiple people doing QTEs? Watching three hours of cutscenes together?This could have just some multiplayer
A separate mode, maybe, but few of the reviews have said that the shooting is any good, most saying the opposite. Would have been a waste of resources and money to build that mode.
This is a big upset for RAD and The Order, most of the reviews slaughter the game.
And of course it looks good, no one has contested that.
I own a PS4
NullPointer
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If the player actively chooses to initiate them then its not mindless. And the buttons you hit in Ryse are your actual attack and block buttons - its just a matter of timing. I still think of them as very different from arbitrary QTEs with harsh fail states, doubly so when they're complete surprises or if they're pushed on the player right after a long cut-scene when the player might not be ready.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Ah the classic. Hopefully this will be reposted in the UC4 review thread.
Nocturno999
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Things really need to shake up internally at Sony's QA dpt. Let's cross our fingers that Bloodborne will deliver or...
Slightly, but not completely OT.
IF anyone is looking for a 3rd person "shooter" for the PS4, I'll say I was VERY surprised by Sniper Elite III the last couple days. I had never played the series before.
If you can find it cheap, I'd say grab it and try it out. It's like Hitman and Metal Gear Solid had a baby.
You can go in on the ground and melee/silently kill enemies. You can snipe enemies. You can set complex traps up and lure your victims in. You can even go guns blazing if you want. The "levels" are like multiple Ground Zeroes each.
Anyway, just a suggestion as a low-cost diamond in the ruff for me. I'm enjoying it a lot more than I expected, and probably would have completely overlooked it.
IF anyone is looking for a 3rd person "shooter" for the PS4, I'll say I was VERY surprised by Sniper Elite III the last couple days. I had never played the series before.
If you can find it cheap, I'd say grab it and try it out. It's like Hitman and Metal Gear Solid had a baby.
You can go in on the ground and melee/silently kill enemies. You can snipe enemies. You can set complex traps up and lure your victims in. You can even go guns blazing if you want. The "levels" are like multiple Ground Zeroes each.
Anyway, just a suggestion as a low-cost diamond in the ruff for me. I'm enjoying it a lot more than I expected, and probably would have completely overlooked it.
Ah, I see what you're saying.
Damn they really are not giving it a pass.
Expected the game not to review well it would do a bit better. Still reviewers are just opinions and am sure there will be many that will enjoy it like with Ryse although both are not my cup of tea.
Man this thread keeps on delivering.
I thought reasons were legitimate things, i.e. they required the use of reason. It has already been reported by various media outlets recently that ISIS are more or less an apocalyptic doomsday cult. It made front page on CNN the other day.
Gross and unprofessional:
Journalists are taking the piss now at this stage. Not fair on the devs who spent 5 years of their lives creating this game.
People are entitled to their opinions, no matter how harsh it can be, as long as no one is being physically/mentally hurt in the process, I see no harm in it. Its the game industry and creators need to have thick skin if they want to improve. The creators can either take this criticism and grow from it or disregard it.
gamechanger87
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This is a really good game. People need to buy this.
King Gilga
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Niers fishing was stupid, but my days that's still hilarious to this day.
That was really well made.
Why does the studios pedigree or how long it took to make matter at all? That's their problem the game should stand on it's own merits.
Constantine81
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Slightly, but not completely OT.
IF anyone is looking for a 3rd person "shooter" for the PS4, I'll say I was VERY surprised by Sniper Elite III the last couple days. I had never played the series before.
If you can find it cheap, I'd say grab it and try it out. It's like Hitman and Metal Gear Solid had a baby.
You can go in on the ground and melee/silently kill enemies. You can snipe enemies. You can set complex traps up and lure your victims in. You can even go guns blazing if you want. The "levels" are like multiple Ground Zeroes each.
Anyway, just a suggestion as a low-cost diamond in the ruff for me. I'm enjoying it a lot more than I expected, and probably would have completely overlooked it.
They really stepped it up a notch with part 3. The series is known for a flawed but entertaining experience. Those x-ray kills never get old, and if I'm not mistaken this is where Nether Realm got the idea from.
EmCeeGramr
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"A big upset" and "slaughter the game" are very subjective ways to describe reception.
For all we know they are happy with the reception, they knew what they were making.
It's a 6/10 game that's a technical marvel but meh at actual gameplay.
Not bad for a studio's first IP I'd say.
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