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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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Are there reviews actually bashing it for those reasons?
Uncharted actually has variety in gameplay elements like platforming that make up for it. Also, there aren't cutscenes and QTEs every couple of seconds.
GhostWriter24
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A demo would be nice. Any mention of one coming to the PS Store?
I always prefer my own judgment to the so called "journalists" slapping a number on games for a living.
I always prefer my own judgment to the so called "journalists" slapping a number on games for a living.
Ame
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The simple answer to everyone's problem is if you still want it after today's shit storm, buy it. If not, move on. There's a slew of other games on the way this year. Play them, have fun, and come back to The Order 1886 when the price makes more sense to you in comparison with the games content and length.
reynal1287
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That's almost like a conspiracy theory. What a joke. If the game is good, it will get good reviews.
But it's not. That would be more akin to going into The Order OT thread and saying that you're not interested in it. Review threads are a bit different. The reviews may not impact on you personally buying the game or not, but you can still care about what score the game gets and how it's perceived by others, whether you feel the criticisms are valid or they make no sense and whether they match up to your experience when you get around to playing it. It's interesting to keep up with if anything, if nothing then for the drama
RealityPales
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It's been just a little over the first year. lol
Doug Heffernan
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There is such a thing as a good 5 hour game.
The Order doesn't appear to be one of them.
I thought the tweet by Justin was pretty funny. It's a lighthearted joke, no big deal.
The other tweet string where that person said something like "so every scene in the crappy game" or whatever just felt overly spiteful though.
There's been a lot of arguments about this over the years on GAF. I'm in the camp that didn't like it while 2 was my goty the year it released, and a few of those reasons are from breaking down the pacing, encounter design, etc.
The games are really, really different even if it initially seems like it's just more uncharted. It also had that whole messed up aiming thing going on, which was oddly missed by just about every reviewer yet immediately noticed by people the moment the first aimed a gun.
The other tweet string where that person said something like "so every scene in the crappy game" or whatever just felt overly spiteful though.
There's been a lot of arguments about this over the years on GAF. I'm in the camp that didn't like it while 2 was my goty the year it released, and a few of those reasons are from breaking down the pacing, encounter design, etc.
The games are really, really different even if it initially seems like it's just more uncharted. It also had that whole messed up aiming thing going on, which was oddly missed by just about every reviewer yet immediately noticed by people the moment the first aimed a gun.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
For me personally Uncharted 3 from a story perspective felt very off-kilter compared to 2. In terms of gameplay with the added Melee stuff though I thought it was great.
Seriously. The best thing that's gonna come from the Order flopping critically like this is that hopefully for the next game they are gonna know how to best maximize their gameplay opportunities.
Or make good campaigns like Wolfenstein or Alien: Isolation did?
Or Bioshock 1 and 2?
It's not like The Order does anything actually new.
brandonh83
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It's pretty much like this early on in every generation. I wouldn't say that Microsoft's output has been anything sterling either, yet. The PS3 and 360, IMO, took a while to really get going. Nintendo is the only company that actually nails this aspect but apparently people don't care about that.
If they didn't have the strongest hardware at the cheaper price and if Xbox didn't have all those blunders early on PS4 would be really hurting right now.
Schweinehund
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I feel like I've seen enough of these threads that there could be a Kubler-Ross model for it as the thread progresses.
From what I've read, that isn't the main criticism at all--in fact, I haven't seen it discussed once. The problem with the game is that it assumes the player can't get by without extensive hand-holding, as well as attempting to tell a grandiose story and falling flat on its face. There are examples of linear games being held up as critical darlings--Bioshock Infinite and The Last of Us fit right in there--but they were actually good at what they did.
1st Course
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Neuromancer
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Fine Ham Abounds
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The Order: 1886 |OT| The Change: $1.14
Yeah then they get bored after the first play through and trade it in.
A few weeks later there will be a mountain of pre owned games for a quarter of the price.
This is some sjw shit from a whole other level.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Yeah that worked out well for DA:I
blazinglazers
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They're game critics. Their job is to critique games for our enjoyment.
"tact" & "professionalism"
lol.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
I don't think it's that they think the player CAN'T get by without handholding, it's just that they want to handhold, which is fine, but they are doing it too much.
anexanhume
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Honestly you make it sound like the perfect beginner shooter to introduce someone new to an "adult" game.
brandonh83
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Haha.
Yeah no doubt I'm not too fussed over it, just stating a viewpoint.
My only console so it's my third-party home too.
Nevertheless I am surprised at how lukewarm their exclusives have been received.
Lord of Castamere
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...or, you know, they could make it like the TLOU. A game that had depth, legnth, replayabilty, and a good story.
False equivalencys are stupid.
Considering how well it did in sales and how many game of the year awards it won, yeah I think it worked out more than well for it. XD
...and looking at it without reading up on it I can understand why. I don't know why that is so funny,
Comfort Jones
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No, he's doing what one could call a complete strawman of an argument.
The game's design is so basic it's downright embarrassing.
The 360 had Oblivion, CoD 2, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six Vegas, Condemned, and Gears of War all in a year. The 360 was a fantastic console to own in 2006, besides the damn thing melting after a few weeks or months.
Goodacre0081
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this is so fucked. one day before to game is released and reviews have sucked the hype completely out of this game. the people at RaD must be feeling pretty deflated right now.
I guess if the game sells well enough the reviews wont matter as much.
I guess if the game sells well enough the reviews wont matter as much.
haha
bananafactory
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Well I'm done posting here, I really have nothing more to say until I play the game for myself and see if I agree with these reviews.
People are overreacting on all sides which I suppose is to be expected. Games come out every week that I consider to be mediocre or uninspired, it's funny how I just ignore them. I think everyone just needs to worry less about what other people like/dislike.
People are overreacting on all sides which I suppose is to be expected. Games come out every week that I consider to be mediocre or uninspired, it's funny how I just ignore them. I think everyone just needs to worry less about what other people like/dislike.
ShockingAlberto
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Eh, what? The Last of Us did remarkably well both critically and sales-wise, why would that all be erased by The Order? If anything is going to drive developers to open-world games, it's that GTA keeps breaking records.
The Order isn't nearly as important as you guys have convinced yourselves.
It's not my responsibility to fluff up games that do things I don't like because I worry what other developers might do and it's definitely not my responsibility as a consumer to reward them with money so they don't take the wrong lesson from it. That's a shitty onus to put on anyone and I'm guessing, were we not solely talking about a Sony exclusive, you wouldn't be willing to put your money where your mouth is, either.
Nintendo get the props they deserve in GAF tbh.
Microsoft have been slightly better with Sunset, Forza, Titanfall and Dead Rising 3 I would say.
But yeah nothing to set the world alight, although they seem to be pretty great titles by all accounts.
brandonh83
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Gears and Oblivion, definitely, but the others (to me) were either mediocre as hell or just okay. I'm not saying that the 360 was weak but I do think both consoles got progressively better across their lifespan, especially the PS3 which just came out swinging later on.
Or maybe they game is mediocre as multiple reviews have said and rated as such?
um...no please don't go?
The Uncharted games are very different from the likes of The Order. The average cut-scene lasts about two minutes, for starters, and you usually have them as bookends for chapters. You're not being constantly interrupted with video. Look at Uncharted 4's proper reveal, it was all about the gameplay, right at the forefront.
The Order seemed to draw inspiration more from David Cage in its cinematic aspirations, but even those games, surprisingly to me, turned out to offer more meaningful interaction to the players from moment to moment. The Order is just strange. Protip for future developers: only Kojima can "pull off" 10+ minute-long cut-scenes.
Captain Tuttle
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Should I know who this person is?Gross and unprofessional:
Journalists are taking the piss now at this stage. Not fair on the devs who spent 5 years of their lives creating this game.
Yeah it is really fucked up seeing reviewers doing their job and saving people from pre launch hype...
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