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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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Risk Breaker
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That's also true. I wonder too, how much of a rush they were put in. Bad call imho.
Well, this is disappointing. I was really hoping that this was just going to be a little rough around the edges, but still a good kick-off for a solid franchise, like Uncharted 1. The alternate-reality Victorian setting is great and had my interest piqued. "Short" would have been okay if the story was good and the gameplay was tight. Sounds like neither of those things panned out.
I may still pick this up when it's deeply discounted, especially if they patch in the ability to skip cutscenes (that's a big deal for me in terms of replayability). Still, it's a big let-down.
I may still pick this up when it's deeply discounted, especially if they patch in the ability to skip cutscenes (that's a big deal for me in terms of replayability). Still, it's a big let-down.
Ray Wonder
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I want to know what I'm buying before I buy it. That's why I put importance in game reviews. I've been reading them, and they don't sound like something I want to play. Sure in a few months to a few years, if I keep hearing good things about it, I'll pick it up. That won't change because of reviews. I won't pick it up day one though. Reviews are the earliest way you can judge a game. They don't make my decision to if I'm ever going to buy it. They just let me know if I'm going to buy it now, or wait until I see/hear something that makes me want to buy it.
The script *is* tight on a micro level. Dialogue is well acted and believable and the concept has legs. It looks like it starts going to interesting places in the middle of the game.
The real problem is the follow through. Nothing gets resolved and as one reviewer put it "It seems to stop at Act II".
StoppedInTracks
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Stupid question:
which game was longer in development: TLOU or The Order? The chasm in quality is insane.
which game was longer in development: TLOU or The Order? The chasm in quality is insane.
In Miyazaki we trust.
Here is the all platform breakdown (interesting to note some of the games are on multiple platforms but only listed as one or have vastly differing scores with different reviewers):
Final Verdict
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Fixed to only include games that are either 1st party, or $60 retail exclusives.
Now the list is more accurate, though your point still stands. X1 doesn't have that much better exclusives, though I think they have done a better job than Sony thus far...
But really if we are just talking about exclusives, shouldn't we include Nintendo?
I don't agree. Sure, it wasn't an exclusive, but Wolfenstein didn't have multiplayer and sold very well on all platforms. The same goes for BioShock: Infinite (although the development costs were so high that it didn't have profit). A singleplayer game can have replayability and lots of room for exploration within a linear level design. As long as it is done well, critics will praise it.
Nightengale
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Geez.
Those 5 years include:
- concept development
- engine development
- pre-production
As of E3 2013, back when the game was first revealed, the game was in pre-production.
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...game-itself-is-third-person-action-adventure/
eso76
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I don't think review scores will keep the Order from selling millions.
Marketing is there and graphics will sell the game.
I wasn't expecting it to be a very good game at all, tbh, but i hadn't imagined it would get such low scores either.
Weeaboosuke
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Ouch.
Those reviews. =/
Those reviews. =/
It's not the quality of the writing per say that makes the games stand out, It's the execution of the script, pacing, high and lows - the mesh of story and gameplay. Neither TLOU nor MGS, nor Uncharted are more than B-roll movies compared to an Oscar nominee type of script. It's how you tell the script through a video game. And the odd man out, Shadow of the Colussus, Journey...not your traditional grounded story but subtext.
Leatherface
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It doesn't (which breaks my heart a little) but I'm sure glad I have one. Nothing fixes gaming disappointment like some Mario Kart 8 online matches. It turns frowns into rage faces!
I've played over 25,000 races since that damn game came out. 25 THOUSAND!! THAT is a good game.
I was all aboard the hype train for the Order. I wanted it to be awesome. SO disappointing. It looks like it's going to be a budget title for me now. Saving my money for Bloodborne. Don't let me down BLOODBORNE!!
John Bender
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Messofanego
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Sigh, it's not getting through to you. What it didn't have weren't the problems. Adding some horde mode wouldn't have fixed it. Its length wasn't the problem. It's what it did have that was still mediocre. Even with its short length, still got padding and repeat sections:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-02-19-the-order-1886-review
mercenar1e
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its not like they'll close down.. worst case scenario is that they get sent back to make PS Vita games.
Scores are pretty much arbitrary nowadays.
The content of a review is what matters.
Bloodborne will be my first Souls kind of game. I am ready to get my ass kicked over and over.
Judging from your earlier posts, I think that you're projecting...
You should, it's really good - if you like racing. Trust me. This is what a new gen experience should be like.
So instead of ignoring those kind of posts it's better this way?
Pretty sad that the game isn't what it could of been.
More gameplay focused, double the 6 hour length, cinematics blending with gameplay seamlessly, rich and varied environments, multiple bosses, epic story.
Going by the reviews, it's like a cheap movie. Will rent or watch some YouTube vids.
More gameplay focused, double the 6 hour length, cinematics blending with gameplay seamlessly, rich and varied environments, multiple bosses, epic story.
Going by the reviews, it's like a cheap movie. Will rent or watch some YouTube vids.
No, he has a point.
They have the assets, the attention to details was maybe just too much. They should have opened up and complexified the environements a bit to make them more interessting to play in. They could have reused assets to do so, noone would have minded given the uncanny attention to details everything has in this game...
And the game would have been much better, and longer. It's cool to be so focused on every single detail, but at some point you have to be pragmatic about your game.
Huh... so on top of it all you get no conclusions whatsoever?
I still want to chek it out, but I'll wait for a significant pricedrop. I
LowlySmokeGuy
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I'd be shocked if it gets anything lower than an 85 on metacritic.
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I think the only lesson to really learn hinges on sales of the game. If it's profitable, they can do it again. Reviews are only a small blip on there. As a business, if we judged it just by reviews, I wouldn't give them that kind of budget or dev time ever again. However the world of business ain't like that. If they've built a good foundation to iterate on QUICKLY, it can definitely be salvageable.
If RAD had any Metacritic bonuses though, they're not happening.
Pretty sad that the game isn't what it could of been.
More gameplay focused, double the 6 hour length, cinematics blending with gameplay seamlessly, rich and varied environments, multiple bosses, epic story.
Going by the reviews, it's like a cheap movie. Will rent or watch some YouTube vids.
I just wanted a PS4 GoW. Just make that game with mutiplayer.
Fuck.
I always viewed The Order 1886 as the pinnacle of the whole "cinematic" game (yes even more so than the interactive movie like games like Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls). Basically this proves that formula doesn't work when it's the focus. Uncharted utilizes the formula well and makes it work by delivering us a longer experience and a competent multiplayer component. Same with The Last of Us.
In the end video games are meant to be played, not watched. A one-and-done, linear, heavily scripted, cutscene filled, 5 hour long experience isn't worth $60.
In the end video games are meant to be played, not watched. A one-and-done, linear, heavily scripted, cutscene filled, 5 hour long experience isn't worth $60.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I agree with this assessment. I don't think games all that worse, rather reviewers took notice that their review averages were WAY higher than other industries and they started to use the full scale again and they have also become more fans of open world game design.
nycgamer4ever
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I have the CE preordered and don't care about review. I like reading them though to see what others think and my god did any of theses reviewers graduate from anything?
And Gamespot says it's better to be bad than boring. WOW Boring could be depending on taste. Bad is bad!? No?
And Gamespot says it's better to be bad than boring. WOW Boring could be depending on taste. Bad is bad!? No?
Sho_Nuff82
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The Bouncer got slammed back in the day too, and it's almost insulting to put Half Life 2 in the same sentence as the games you mentioned, especially given its focus on intuitive physics based puzzles, creative use of the weapons, and wide open combat spaces. Plus, HL2 never takes away player agency, you are never removed from first person, your character never does anything without your direct button prompts.
How many people are running around with this avatar?
get2sammyb
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I wrote a follow up feature on The Order: 1886 which I hope that the mods will permit me to post here. Basically, there are four major problems with the game as far as I'm concerned: the gameplay fails to enhance the story, the combat's too old fashioned, there's not enough to interact with, and the plot falls at the final hurdle.
Ready at Dawn's onto something, but it needs to go back to the drawing board if it makes a sequel. Anyway, you can read the full article through here. Hopefully, it'll give you a bit more insight into the game, etc. I also hope the feedback will be valuable for RaD.
Ready at Dawn's onto something, but it needs to go back to the drawing board if it makes a sequel. Anyway, you can read the full article through here. Hopefully, it'll give you a bit more insight into the game, etc. I also hope the feedback will be valuable for RaD.
gundamkyoukai
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Come on bruce TLOU took years to come out on last gen , we not even 2 years into this one yet if don't count wii u .
Thought BB will change that and play DC it's awesome .
AyaisMUsikWhore
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This gen, man.
Clock it please. I'm extremely satisfied with this gen so far. I don't suffer from short term memory lost.
I think for them, they were getting used to new cutting edge console hardware and they kept their team size to a certain limit (I think somewhere near 100 with some subcontractors on top), whereas Ubisoft got 600 people to work on AC games.
So I don't think they could have done substantially more. It's a learning stage for them. They worked really hard on this amazing Engine, it's truly impressive no doubt. But they focused so much on that they forgot to refine the gameplay, which reviews are consistently complaining about in terms of controls that sometimes don't work, don't feel right. Gunplay that is basically completely unremarkable outside of the thermite rifle. Story that is really lame and cutscenes that go on forever for a story you have no investment in due to how lame it is. It seems like they made a really elaborate tech demo that just so happened to have cinematic aspirations, so the story went on forever.
But I know Ready at Dawn has talent. I know that if they focus on gameplay, we'll get a title worth playing. I just hope they get that chance.
MikeHaggar
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i really thought this was review better... either way, my copy is being delivered tomorrow. i'm excited to check it out. i think i'll end up enjoying it.
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