Resident_UA
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If reviewer really feels like he wasted 5 hours struggling through the game he didn't enjoy 1/5 could be justifiable... It's really just an opinion.
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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If reviewer really feels like he wasted 5 hours struggling through the game he didn't enjoy 1/5 could be justifiable... It's really just an opinion.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
I can't take anyone seriously who gives a broken game a 9 out of 10.
graffix13
Member
Wow. Bravo!
They've got something to prove.
and yet the order 1886 is a fun experience which doesnt need bug fixing
it works properly out of the gate
Great! It works! Too bad the gameplay is apparently bland and the story supposedly sucks.
I haven't played the game, but if I can't find enough reasons to think that the gameplay and story are worth my while, then why should I?
I like Halo (referring to MCC), and I'll be damned if I haven't had a ton of fun with MCC despite it's issues.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I will echo this actually. Ryse was a solid game with fun mechanics and amazing visuals. The Order might be the same. I will pick it up when its cheap.
Robot Pants
Member
Damn 68 pages in four hours. Is that a record?
Looks like GS arent fans of ''soaking in the atmosphere''. omg does that mean they did a speed run?
bananafactory
Banned
Agreed. Disappointment is expected and justified but there's also a faint whiff of celebration in here.
DirtyLarry
Member
Just an FYI, The Order is not a 1st party game. It is an exclusive by a 3rd party.
really not seeing any of that. Just people saying it isn't fun/good to play.
You sure about that? Isn't Ready at Dawn owned by Sony?
It's a score for how much you enjoyed your time with the game. Thats it.
Flachmatuch
Member
Probably meant "exclusive". And that's perfectly right. Apart from that, the best games on PS4, by far, are last gen upports.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Yikes. Even lower than I predicted.
Where's that review thread bingo card because 65 page thread I might as well just yell Bingo! right now.
Where's that review thread bingo card because 65 page thread I might as well just yell Bingo! right now.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Interesting
Cool, I meant exclusives I guess.
I would hope their desire to improve.
This is why I don't trust reviewers anymore
FunkyPajamas
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He's too over the top for my taste. Can't stand his acting.
SnowFlakeCake
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Those are awful scores, I knew it was gonna go one way or the other but goddamn you fucked up big time RAD. I've got this coming in the post tomorrow as a rental and don't even think it's worth bothering to stick the PS4, might just return and get Far Cry 4.
Might just play through the game tonight anyway, will have it finished in no time.
Might just play through the game tonight anyway, will have it finished in no time.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
The game will still be a hit. RAD bet on graphics, and graphics is king. If it flops, we'll know for sure if that's true.
Have you actually played MCC?
Zeuanimals
Member
That's toxic. Games can have both... And I don't think you understand how much all games have taken from cinema. The entire concept of a camera in video games was heavily influenced by cinema as well as plenty of other aspects. But sure, I don't mind games going back to being text-based. Zork's gonna make a big comeback because "we".
I love cinema, hell, I hardly play games anymore (I'm of the group that browses GAF more than I play games) and I've just become somewhat of a cinephile in the past few years. This game may not be for you, but it might be for me. God forbid there be variety. And this isn't a mobile game that's gonna rake in billions, devs aren't rushing out to make an expensive, cinematic game when this one is likely gonna be a critical failure. But sure, screw the idea of people wanting to make that one game that fills a very specific niche.
Necromanti
Member
Plus, they've been doing a worldwide press tour.
OrbitalBeard
Member
The Order is absolutely a first-party game. It was funded and published by Sony. Ready at Dawn may not be a first-party studio, but The Order: 1886 is unquestionably a first-party game.
ChasingComets
Member
My hat off to you, good sir.
Well, since The Order doesn't have multiplayer and MCC includes four campaigns with some of the best gameplay out there along with co-op and upgraded visuals, maybe the disparity is indeed justified.
Higgins113
Banned
At least MCC had good gameplay
Funny how people who already have the game had a hard time actually playing it.
EightBitNate
Member
The Order - 30fps
AC Unity ~ 24fps
The Order - about 6 hours long
AC Unity - about 12 hours long
The Order - 648,000 total frames
AC Unity - 1,036,800 total frames
AC Unity wins.
You can't argue with that logic.
I must admit, I am happy that the consensus is valuing substance over style.
……forgetit
Member
Too be fair from what I read the reviewers were told multiplayer would have been fine by launch, and that's not uncommon so they'd have no reason not to believe them. It's shitty that it happened, but it's not hard to understand why 4 games with busted multiplayer reviewed better than 1 game with busted everything but graphics.
sounds like a bunch of websites liked MCC more than The Order....
are you trying to point out some conspiracy theory or something?
A normal run in The Order is a speed run sorry.
TheCanisDirus
Member
MCC had a broken shit MP for a long time... The SP however... All combined are a much greater piece of gaming than The Order seems to be. Makes sense to me.
MCC multiplayer still broken after 100 days, so now you can just compare 4 SP games to the 1 interactive movie.
The SP portion is not broken but yeah - reviewers should take launch issues into account.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The thing about Knack is even if you felt the gameplay in it was only okay, there was still a lot of it. It did adhere to old-school principles of design even though it had a lot of cutscenes. There was some meat on the bones.
Knack-mediocre isn't the same as Ryse-mediocre.
Knack-mediocre isn't the same as Ryse-mediocre.
I'm still in. The scores are a tad (~10%)lower than I expected but the content of the reviews is pretty much on target. The game is what I thought it was and I'm fine with that.
The main thing I'm disappointed with is
. It sounds like they're operating under the impression that a sequel is in the bag. I hope they're right but I'd obviously prefer
it to the extent some say they did.
Yeah, that rubs me the wrong way too. The impressions and the content of the reviews all seem to point to a game that is 'decent' at what it does, or was trying to do. It looks like a lot of people aren't fans of what they're trying to do, which is completely fine, but it would be nice to see a more objective approach.
Of course, maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there. It's just that scores like that are typically reserved for games that are outright abominations. I just can't see how this game would fit in that category. Maybe I'm wrong. (To be clear, I don't have an issue with the Halo scores... Just with the insanely low scores that insinuate the game is hot garbage)
The main thing I'm disappointed with is
the apparent "blue-balls" nature of the ending
them to not cliffhang
Yeah, that rubs me the wrong way too. The impressions and the content of the reviews all seem to point to a game that is 'decent' at what it does, or was trying to do. It looks like a lot of people aren't fans of what they're trying to do, which is completely fine, but it would be nice to see a more objective approach.
Of course, maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there. It's just that scores like that are typically reserved for games that are outright abominations. I just can't see how this game would fit in that category. Maybe I'm wrong. (To be clear, I don't have an issue with the Halo scores... Just with the insanely low scores that insinuate the game is hot garbage)
Melchiah
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Well, I am if they're challenging in the way Driveclub and Resogun are.
It's the punishing of the player, by inserting checkpoints further back, that I don't find enjoyable. I'm still cautiously optimistic about Bloodborne, and I've actually pre-ordered it. The lure of getting the soundtrack with it was just too strong. It remains to be seen if it throws me into tearful fits of rage. =DThere's definitely been some good multiplatform releases on these systems as well, like Destiny, Alien, DA:I, and Resident Evil, which I wouldn't have wanted to miss out. As for Wii U, there isn't much for me, apart from Zombie U and Fatal Frame.
Gunplay is awesome, with great feedback and sound. Cover system works perfectly fine, controls are fine too. In this regard they did a good job. Flaws are, in my opinion, a basic IA, level design and melee because they opted for a QTE system that even if it makes sense in the overall design of the game, even if animations are good and flow very well together, even if they're various enough, they feel lazy and a easy way out. A system like TLOU could easily fit without hurting the formula and it would've been better, though I know I'm not mentioning the average, easy to do melee system. This applies also to the dodge animation and similar, those who played it know what I'm talking about.
This narrative that RAD gives no shit to gameplay should stop, really. To post over and over again that quote, decontextualized, is just lame and same goes for the comparison with TT's games that have nothing to do with it. :|
Post game maybe, but not during the first run. From a mere gameplay perspective, these are always nice additions but it seems to me that TO wanted to flow from start to end avoiding any.. "downtime". Just my opinion.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
I strongly disagree. Opinions are subjective. Reviews are pragmatic assessments. This game receiving a 4/10 is nothing short of fueled by strong personal convictions, which have no place in a professional critique.
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