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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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You might want to look at the cause of all of it. People are finally fed up and pissed off about broken and bad games. In recent months 3 high profile games were basically broken for weeks and months after launch. People have supported this new generation at near unprecedented levels. What those people get in return? Broken and bad games so of course they are lashing out. This generation is so bad that the highest rated games are up ports of last generation. Everyone has their limits and most people have reached theirs.
JackLongRod
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SkylineRKR
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Yeah single player cover shooter... come the fuck on. The writing was on the wall. Unless its something like Vanquish, that really tried to shake things up. But it obviously wasn't. First gameplay footage of the Order looked as basic and tired as it can get.
I think The Order is what you get when you let Davig Cage let loose on the TPS genre.
wow, footage and subs go together so brill
enjoyed videogamer.coms video review a lot so I cut out the song
https://vid.me/jnRK
here is a link to their full video review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_y7f-yFFc8
and their review page for the game: http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the_order_1886_review.html
https://vid.me/jnRK
here is a link to their full video review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_y7f-yFFc8
and their review page for the game: http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the_order_1886_review.html
Honestly though? I don't care. The gaming community has gotten so terrible that this has been brought upon themselves. Having no one to blame but themselves.
Not even sure Gamers deserve to have good games considering the vast majority of gamers have become so vile.
nope. went in blind after picking it up from a steam sale. thats pretty cool!
Wish the game was more than a generic 3rd person shooter, gameplay wise though. Everything about the game was really cool... except the main characters.
Why should it? It should mean a subpar game.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Wow, now that's a paddlin
Moon_frogger
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Hmmm. You must not play a lot of video games.
On a gaming forum no less.
Wow, this game is pretty hammered. I can see a lot of folks doing this right now.
Hahaha, I'm glad that crappy remake of Bedazzled exists, because this made it worth it.
If a game is a 10 in graphics and a 2 in fun, it's a 2/10 game. It's silly when review scores are an average of arbitrary categories.
or they delude themselves into thinking they liked it. Happened to me with Fable 1
Cyborg
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They do, but at least up until now, those cost savings have not balanced out the cost increases.
Every generation -- and even within a generation -- the models get more detailed, the set pieces more grand, the lighting more complex, the sound design richer. This requires ever increasing costs, and those costs are going up faster than middleware and other cost savings can cut the budget down.
Maybe that trend will reverse at some point, but it hasn't so far.
orthodoxy1095
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It's actually really selfish because contrary to what others keep saying, I think there is a market for these kinds of games. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer who wants to chase scores or play mechanically deep games. Cinematic games have a "lighter" touch could be part of expanding the audience of gaming in general. And that would be a great thing.
At some point I would hope that a dev would come along who isn't necessarily interested in chasing the graphics aspect of cinematic games. They could do something pretty neat.
Permanently A
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Is this the new hitler meme?
JayhawkerStL
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It's about resource management and priorities. While a game like Wolfenstein is not even close to looking as stunning as The Order, it oozes with style, story, and fantastic gameplay.
The reason The Order has been so divisive is that from the moment it was announced, it was clear where RaD prioritized its resources. Too many people were willing to buy into the fantasy that it would be more. Throw in that I I an exclusive title, and boom, now you have people rooting for the title even harder.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Comparing The Order to Haze.
HAZE.
And Lair.
LAIR.
My God, we've truly reached the end of this journey.
HAZE.
And Lair.
LAIR.
My God, we've truly reached the end of this journey.
maybe those broken games were more fun.
Ze_Pershing
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It's not joy, but hope that the fail game will make the developer look back at the game and notice that just looks alone will not net you $60 bucks. As gamers we have expectations, you know? We're not all sheep.
DarthWalden
Banned
Here is why:
Prior to launch there was a number of people who were very excited for this game due to its setting/graphics and first part nature... I'll put those guys in group A. There was a greater number of people who looked at the gameplay and cinematic nature and thought this game looked fairly mediocre...I'll put those guys in group B.
When Group B shares there opinion with Group A, Group A would take it personally and spend tons of time trying to discredit Group B. Group B went on the defense and spend time trying to discredit Group A. Due to there position in this argument Group B became emotionally invested in this game "being bad" and when the reviews were released it just helped to cement Group B's opinion so they cheered the results. If the reviews were great Group A would be cheering from the rooftops.
Kssio_Aug
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Since the game is not broken, the review serves only to show me that this game is not for everyone. Knowing the fact that I usually like cinematic games, have absolutely no problem at all with QTE, I think the game may be a fun experience for me.
I think the reviewers usually thinks about how one game can be viewed differently by players with different tastes, but he has to give a score, and I doubt the score is based on a non-personal metric. But the gamer usually don't see it that way. So instead of understanding what type of game it is, and decide by himself and be ok with the decision, they usually go and look only at the score, automatically judging the game by it and even defending this kind of game shouldn't exist (as we can see a fine example on another gaf thread).
I think the reviewers usually thinks about how one game can be viewed differently by players with different tastes, but he has to give a score, and I doubt the score is based on a non-personal metric. But the gamer usually don't see it that way. So instead of understanding what type of game it is, and decide by himself and be ok with the decision, they usually go and look only at the score, automatically judging the game by it and even defending this kind of game shouldn't exist (as we can see a fine example on another gaf thread).
HellofaMouse
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as much as the games getting alot of shit right now, i hope rads doing a good job of distinguishing good criticism from the bad, because the atmosphere in this game is one of the best ive seen in a long time (almost rivaling tlou), and id love them to iterate on this with the criticism in mind.
i think its better
Misterinenja
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The Order would have benefited greatly from Korn theme song IMO.
Jwebster24
Member
This.
Lair I kind of get, if only because it was a "showcase" game that disappointed. But they're really not on the same level, Lair was pretty broken with the original controls, so it doesn't really work to equate them.
Haze though? Yeah, that's a ridiculous comparison all around.
badboy78660
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I'm sure you meant the gaming industry, otherwise your post makes little sense.
It's the gaming industry that keeps pushing out broken games and cinematic experiences, experiences so true to the word cinematic that they'll last around 2 hours soon.
when the devs said
i expected the game to be crap and now it's sorta confirmed that it's not very good. maybe they should focus on gameplay next time.
Point out one single game that's a clone of The Order. Same setting. Similar cinematic cutscene : gameplay ratio. Same objectives. Same gameplay. Similar storyline. Similar weapons.
Calling The Order generic is just idiotic at this point.
Having said that, I don't own a PS4 but I can appreciate a very good looking game that does something different in this generation that's filled with dudebro shooters.
I respect RAD for doing their own thing and not listening to whiny gamers.
theDeeDubs
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It's disappointing to see such a cool atmosphere and setting squandered. I hate to judge a game for what it wasn't setting out to be, but I just can't get excited over a meat and potato shooter nowadays. It would have made one hell of an RPG. I still want to play it just to bask in its graphical glory, but for a short meat and potatoes shooter I'll wait until it hits $20.
Haha this is a great summary of what happened between gameplay reveal to now.
You guys aren't reading that quote correctly. Obviously gameplay is unavoidable when they're making a game.
I wouldn't know, they were broken, at least I'll be able to play this game.
It's not surprising as gaffers spent money on the game whereas reviewers do not. It's been proven in psychology that humans will subconsciously value things higher (enjoying things more) if they are more expensive, as in this study of blind wine tasters. In addition, humans are naturally loss-adverse and so when they spend money on something, they will do all they can to avoid feeling like they wasted their money. It's nothing nefarious or something to be judged, it's just how our brains are programmed. It's called the "sunk-cost fallacy" and here's a great article/podcast about it. So you can see that reviewers and consumers are approaching these games from different perspectives and that actually has a real effect on how much they enjoy the exact same game. It's a pretty interesting topic and probably worth some discussion sometime.
Mad Season
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if they can survive this, they already have a great engine
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