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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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CosmicQueso
Member
No way a game like that gets greenlit.
Things... happened in development. Seems pretty clear.
Hoping Gamasutra or someone will have a post mortem on this in 6 months or so.
Patrick Bateman
Member
Hahahaha, if Hitler in downfall meme was the voice of people against companies, Risitas is the voice of the companies doing shitty practices.
Its so funny knowing him for TV and spanish to know he is talking about making a paella, and in reality the subs are talking about shitty practices.
This interview (and others) are already famous in Spain because the guy (and his brother in law RIP) makes no sense when telling stories, but this just elvates it to god status.
I do understand a bit of Spanish and he obviously doesn't speak about videogames, yet the whole combination of his laughter and that I probably don't understand enough Spanish made it absolutely hilarious.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
I wonder now if Galahad will appear in Playstation All Stars 2?
John Kowalski
Banned
what a great game
day 1
day 1
Karak
Gold Member
LOL I haven't heard back from either company since I reviewed both games as Don't Touch.
It was hardly universally liked.
Dargor
Member
I think we can all agree that some of the choices that were made regarding this game were definitely bad calls. I'm just hoping that people, some day, realize that those were not trying to offer a cinematic game, nor focusing on SP.
The lack of content, in my opinion, was the biggest fault this game showed. For a game that wanted to be a SP experience, they should have offered more for the players.
I just hope that this game still sell enough. It deserves it. Its a good game. Its a great foundation to what can become an awesome franchise.
I hope Sony sees that and bring a second entry on this universe. Rectifying the lack of content. Now that they would be working on content instead of building the engine, they could definitely add more playstyles, ala Killzone where you could change between your squad members. Multiplayer could also make its debut. They could even go and add splitscreen. I would love that.
The lack of content, in my opinion, was the biggest fault this game showed. For a game that wanted to be a SP experience, they should have offered more for the players.
I just hope that this game still sell enough. It deserves it. Its a good game. Its a great foundation to what can become an awesome franchise.
I hope Sony sees that and bring a second entry on this universe. Rectifying the lack of content. Now that they would be working on content instead of building the engine, they could definitely add more playstyles, ala Killzone where you could change between your squad members. Multiplayer could also make its debut. They could even go and add splitscreen. I would love that.
EmCeeGramr
Member
If a five hour steak that costs $100 but is also a sportscar made out of diamonds drives out of a movie theater at 20MPH, and a sedan hamburger that is 40 hours long and open world drives out of a McDonald's at 70MPH, when will the two meet and what will the score be
I'm trying to figure out the proper analogies here
I'm trying to figure out the proper analogies here
holy shit
pr0cs
Member
They do if they wanted to be rated along with their peers. When I get buy another game at the same pricepoint and the only redeeming feature of one is 'pretty graphics' whereas the other has multiple modes and reasons to keep playing the game then the choice should be pretty easy.
again missing features that your competition has should be considered a negative, all the games are competing with each other, at least in the same genre. so if one title has reasons to keep playing it and the other doesn't how can you rate them the same?
All of this is moot really, because from the sounds of things even the one thing that Order has going for it (cinematic story) is mediocre then it should absolutely get much worse scores than it's competition.
I can name 4 AAA exclusive games on more than one system with scores of 8/10 or better that came out in the last 6 months...all 4 function darn near perfectly.
Do you have some long/weird definition of "recent"?
Sounds like a 6.9 and an 8.8 to me. They'll meet somewhere around Pittsburgh.
Goodacre0081
Member
has the GAF impression thread given any indication that this was going to review so low?
lol fuck me. I howled at the sedan hamburger that is 40 hours long and open world drives... part
Necromanti
Member
Looking at the Giant Bomb quick look, some things I can imagine becoming bothersome are the forced walking sections (which tend to annoy me in most games) and the way the action/gameplay is often interrupted by cutscenes (including some of the transitions). The game seems to teeter back and forth between giving you control and taking it away from you a bit too often.
Phat Michael
Banned
you missed the blowjob one which was definitely the best.
it was going to be low but not this low
Kssio_Aug
Member
Cant understand why people keep trying to justify the "unfair scores" argument of The Order with Halo MCC case. Theyre not only completely different games, but also one thing does not justifies another! Is not that after Halo MCC every solid game technically speaking should deserve a bigger overall score... Halo MCC scores were probably a mistake, and you can't turn it into a new paradigma.
Driveclub and Infamous were great.
That said only Nintendo has universally acclaimed games so far this gen.
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
so because reviews are low which is someone elses opinion there exclusives are irrelevant?
If I gave a gaming site reviews, I'd be worried. In the meantime, the game is already preloaded. Can't wait.
You've never played Driveclub, have you?
You've never played Driveclub, have you?
Interfectum
Member
It's an Arby's Sandwich with Boar's Head turkey.
Good point. I forgot this was a thing. They must have weighed the cost to make it better and couldn't justify it.
about that...
Exploratory
Banned
It's Playstation Lifetstyle.
I will say I am pretty surprised by these scores and the recent downturn in the gaming media in regards to cinematic games. Just a few years ago, they were loved and could do no wrong, and I remember the old gameplay-guy Matt Casamassina even writing stuff about how Uncharted 2 was saving gaming (or something like that).
Now this has completely turned around it seems, and while I am sure the Order is a much weaker game than Uncharted, from the footage I have seen, it kinda looks similar still. Anyways, I will probably get this game eventually when its in the bargain bin, as I am sure it will be a decent ride. Just not for $60.
Now this has completely turned around it seems, and while I am sure the Order is a much weaker game than Uncharted, from the footage I have seen, it kinda looks similar still. Anyways, I will probably get this game eventually when its in the bargain bin, as I am sure it will be a decent ride. Just not for $60.
Hahahaha, if Hitler in downfall meme was the voice of people against companies, Risitas is the voice of the companies doing shitty practices.
Its so funny knowing him for TV and spanish to know he is talking about making a paella in the beach, and in reality the subs are talking about shitty practices.
This interview (and others) are already famous in Spain because the guy (and his brother in law RIP
Hahah I first saw this when that Nvidia 3.5GB fiasco started, shit was friggin' hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZJrsssPA0
llAuburnll
Banned
I dont understand this. Multiplayer bugs aside, the game is fun as heck and has a crap ton of content even if you never touch multiplayer. The game does have serious issues, but it's extremely fun and the content level is absurd. The order just seems to be thr opposite. That's why it is reviewing bad. Can we drop the journalism integrity or standards thing? There's obvious reasons MCC scored what it did,regardless of how high or low others score. Technically sound or bug free does not a good game make.
I realize you aren't necessarily making a comparison between the two games, but many are here. However you do act like there's no reason for mcc to score as high as it did, which is what I don't understand. Even with the bugs. I was disappointed by the bugs as well.
The Shogun
Banned
I'll be honest, as crazy as it is, lots of consumers hate short games, regardless of quality. They beat them, don't think they got their cash worth, and trade it in. Not everyone of course but I'm speaking of mass market. Combine that with no multi player and little to no replayability from what the majority of reviews are saying and........
Yeah I don't anticipate good word of mouth at all. But we'll see, could be off on that.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Ouch. Sucks for RAD. I'm still enjoying it, but I can definitely understand it not being for everyone.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Free the homie PlayMeThrough
Stop, you're giving me SAT flash backs.
This is so much better than the fake Hitler videos.
This somehow makes me hungry and my teeth hurt at the same time
$100/20 = 5 dollar to mph ratio
Free sedan/70 = infinity
Infinity loops
1886 the first automobile was made
1948 McDonalds was founded
1948-1886 = 62
(5-infinity)*62 = the big bang?
Okay new winner of the thread
I think the developer knew it was coming in the back of their minds. From a PR standpoint ,they were trying to protect their game and I can respect that to some extent, especially when Ready at Dawn was honest about where its priorities were in the design of this game. Like you said ,when you make something, you put in a lot of emotional investment into it, but unfortunately for RAD, the product they spent so much time in creating doesn't seem to be a very good one. Critics and some consumers saw some potential early red flags, and if they saw them, then RAD had to as well. RAD was just committed to a vision they thought they could pull off.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
Never been happier to have spent only $16 on a game. Yikes.
Games like The Order and its ilk are what giving 'Linear' a bad name and almost turned it into an insult. There are bad and good linear games. Players and especially reviewers mustn't attribute The Order's flaws to being a linear game. Linear SP games are great, no overwhelming side stuff is grate, not shoving in XP or upgrade system is great.
The Order takes linearity to the extreme and becomes something else - a restrictive, suffocating game experience with little breadth or depth to the gameplay mechanics and design. Which is how i use the term 'cinematic' in discussing video games.
The length really isn't an issue. If anything the impression i got is that the game overstays its welcome and recycles some of the encounters. Taking the same content and stretching it out wouldn't have done any favors.
The Order takes linearity to the extreme and becomes something else - a restrictive, suffocating game experience with little breadth or depth to the gameplay mechanics and design. Which is how i use the term 'cinematic' in discussing video games.
The length really isn't an issue. If anything the impression i got is that the game overstays its welcome and recycles some of the encounters. Taking the same content and stretching it out wouldn't have done any favors.
CambriaRising
Member
This thread is a lot more civil than I had anticipated.
Wowee at those review scores. I planned to rent this title for a while now anyway but I am genuinely curious as to what my feelings on the game will be when I play it for myself, since I'm a fan of Heavy Rain, The Walking Dead, and such. One thing I can see myself agreeing with is the issue with value proposition because no matter how pretty it is, it does appear to be a small package for a 60 dollar game.
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