The Switch is also a handheld with TV, really not all that difficult to understand.
Yes it has, in this very thread even its lead to name calling from the very beginning, you just see what you want to see. I'm not going to refer to it as a "hybrid" ever, you can and I don't care, you shouldn't care what I call it either.
You seem to have trouble understanding this though, not sure why you should object to it being a hybrid in the first place, the clue is in the name "Switch".
I would counter that all the dreams Nintendo had about the Wii U came to fruition in the form of the Switch.
No trouble understanding anything but this push from people insisting I follow the marketing narrative. It's a portable system with TV out. Nintendo can call it whatever they want but it is what it is.
"Hybrid" is as much a marketing term as "portable". You can absolutely call "a portable/tabletop system with a TV out" or a "TV console that can be taken on the go". But I would say the issue with those descriptions is that they put the emphasis on one mode or the other, whereas most Switch owners use it in both mode frequently.
I didn't set these terms in the market, the industry did.
But totally different things, the Wii and DS generation was lightning in a bottle, and Nintendo were getting in at the ground floor with two very new pieces of tech, motion and touch controls, repeating this success was pretty much impossible, you are better to compare the 3DS and Wii U's sales performance. Of course this is never applied to anyone else than Nintendo, as you do not see the PS3 or PS4 being suggested as a sales flop, just because they did not sell as much as the PS2.
Which parts of the industry call Switch a "portable system with a TV out"?
I didn't say they did, it's a portable system as the market has defined them. Screen, built in controls, battery, no external display needed. It also has TV out like some portable systems have had.
It is indeed a portable system, and it is also a home console as the market has defined them, since it plugs into the wall, plays games on a TV, has a standalone controller and is designed to offer local multiplayer by connecting to multiple controllers. It is a system designed to be used as both.
If it makes you happy to call it a home console go ahead, I guess a PSP Go is also a home console since it does that. For me, I don't think that added capability transforms a portable into a non portable.
I think a much better question would be, why are you so determined for the Switch not to be called a hybrid console?, as surely it's both.
Wrong, call it whatever you like, I have said that multiple times in this thread. I'm just explaining why I don't call it a hybrid and why I call it a portable.
An odd hill to die on, but you do you, man.
I disagree. Wii U was about dual-screen gaming, stylus/touch control, and asymmetrical multiplayer.
Why and how am I dying on hill? I don't think you know what that means. Are you implying I am going to suffer negative consequences for my views? I've expressed my opinions and explained them, people keep replying to me. Should I just not respond? Even if I were the only person on earth that doesn't call the Switch a hybrid that would be totally irrelevant to the conversation, it's my view.An odd hill to die on, but you do you, man.
Again, I think the only person who has a problem with acknowledging Switch is a hybrid is you.
LOL it's a very common figure of speech, man. Welcome to the Internet.
Yes, it is very common, that is why I recognized it wasn't appropriate in this conversation.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, it just doesn't make sense to you. I see all you have left to say are insults so in that case, you are dismissed.
they can do worse, SWiTCH ME for example, uugh ...
If it makes them feel better that Switch is a failure because:But totally different things, the Wii and DS generation was lightning in a bottle, and Nintendo were getting in at the ground floor with two very new pieces of tech, motion and touch controls, repeating this success was pretty much impossible, you are better to compare the 3DS and Wii U's sales performance. Of course this is never applied to anyone else than Nintendo, as you do not see the PS3 or PS4 being suggested as a sales flop, just because they did not sell as much as the PS2.
stick to your retarded logic then that anyone who thinks handheld that makes every sacrifices to be handheld can't be called a handheld because it connects connects to a TV. look at this AD for rog rally. it shows people playing on Tv and they call it handheld they must be some flat earthers. Damn you are so smart.
I'm not calling it a home console. I'm saying (and I think this is something me and you can agree on) that:
It's not just "Marketing". The switch is specifically designed to be played both in handheld mode and as a standard home console.
Don't insult adults by calling yourself one. you are butt hurt cause you wanna see your favorite toy be recognized as home console, It's fine if you see it as one, i dont' care but comparing it to the earth is flat just shows how stupid you are.
I love the Nintendo Switch, and I haven't considered it a flop; on the contrary, I believe it sold very well. A Nintendo console with the power of a PS5 could potentially outperform the Xbox and take a share from the PS5. I found it interesting that they chose to focus solely on handheld gaming instead of competing in the home console market. However, after reading some messages here, I realized that Nintendo has been more profitable in this approach. We'll see if they achieve similar success with the Switch 2.But totally different things, the Wii and DS generation was lightning in a bottle, and Nintendo were getting in at the ground floor with two very new pieces of tech, motion and touch controls, repeating this success was pretty much impossible, you are better to compare the 3DS and Wii U's sales performance. Of course this is never applied to anyone else than Nintendo, as you do not see the PS3 or PS4 being suggested as a sales flop, just because they did not sell as much as the PS2.
Your insults prove your immaturity. Go run to mommy and tell on me...she will make you feel better.(btw Switch is a Hybrid console and the earth is a squashed sphere- your feelings have jackshit to do with either)
I just don't see it that way. There is nothing "hybrid" about the Switch. If the dock contained some processing power or could enable discs then I would consider it a "hybrid", as it is now it just an elegantly handled way to connect AC power and TV out. The Lite is Nintendo doubling down on the portable aspect, if home play was a bigger priority they would have made a TV only version but instead they went all portable. Maybe we can all just agree on "handheld" like you said, I can go with that.
Lol you started with the insults by saying don't argue with adults, but even worse you basically called everyone who that calls the switch a portable that can be connected to a tv a idiot but comparing them to people that think the earth is flat. The comparison just shows how immature you are by not being able to accept different view points with out calling people idiots.
....what? then how the fuck is the PS5 doing so well, then?
The dock may not contain any processing power, but it does allow the Switch to run at higher speeds to deliver better performance. I believe you need to consider the entire content of the package, and it's really the Joy-Cons that make it a hybrid system. The Joy-Cons are as crucial to the system's identity as the gamepad was for the Wii U and are somewhat comparable to the Wii's motion controls, though maybe not to the same extent. They enable the system to be played as both a handheld and a home console right out of the box, and the entire system is designed to facilitate seamless switching between the two modes.
it really gonna depend how you view it. if you are gamer that find the joycons useless as well as the the joy con controller which most gamers do it's just gonna be half assed attempt at being a home console. As for the dock it isn't anything special basically like plugging in a mobile device and getting more power out of it. The good news is kids aren't picky and will think the joycons and joycon controller are great.
Yea when you are 6 to 12 year old kid with small hands and not picky those things work as actual controllers I know it's hard to believe but I have seen with my own eyes.
Calling someone young is not an insult
are hurt.