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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Less then half the population. This proves that democracy works as more then half of the population (including over a third of scots and almost half of the nothern Irish) have got their way.
Now whether democracy is always a good thing is an entirely different debate...
Still going on with their threats aren't they?
Well if its bad, and it could be, it would be less bad if we all got on a similar page
The world is already divided as it is, we're just one step closer from becoming those damn dystopia movies that keep coming out.
I hate to say this, but large swathes of immgrant communities voted to leave. I saw this in my borough today - the afro carribean immigrant community was *very* pro-leave.
sorry uk... i hope this is not next.
Well, 52% just endorsed UKIP. They got their "independence," what next?
Look on the bright side. The NHS will be in amazing shape now that it's £350million per week better off.
Where do we sign up? Seriously, I want to know. ;-(
MisterFalcon
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I hope all whoever paid the polling firms had some sort of clause for a partial refund if they got it completely wrong. Again.
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Flintty
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Surely would have been more appropriate if Remain won the vote? I see no death of liberty in this result.
ferrasvansen
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Well being obtuse and inflexible has been such a success so far they might as well carry on with it...
brochiller
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I want to know this too.
It feels like the OG Confederacy to me. Trying to do the one nation thing without giving the national body enough powers to work.
The Euro's a disaster because you can't have sovereign nations w/ radically disparate needs under a unified monetary policy. Either everyone's together, or you're going to get what's been happening: countries getting f'd cause their economic needs aren't being met.
Lightning Count
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More like the whole cultural sector.
Whelp, you had a good run UK.
The founding fathers definitely knew what they were doing...
The founding fathers definitely knew what they were doing...
They want the pain to start before other similar movements take hold.
Lol why on earth would inflation and rates rise in such a situation. The BoE would ensure the opposite.I'm so very sad this morning.
Scotland are off.
Border controls will appear between north and southern Ireland
The economy will crash
Inflation will rise
Interest rates will rise
Public services will be cut
Oh my
AHA-Lambda
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Red Arremer
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In order to not get drawn in with the UK stabbing itself in the knee, the EU has to be quick and confident now. If they let their departure take too long or make many concessions that allows the UK to be sort of a member of the EU with all the rights but none of the responsibilities, it will fall like a house of cards.
Furthermore, they need to signal to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar that they will welcome them back into the EU should they decide to go for independence or, in NI's case, try to go for unification with Ireland.
Either way, this is a big blow to the unification of Europe as an entity. As mentioned in the earlier thread, this will result in a big boost for the secessionist movements all across Europe (Belgium, Italy and Spain mostly).
Everybody also will watch with keen eyes at what exactly will happen to the UK's economy. If it fails - and this is the likely outcome - it will hopefully cause the anti-EU sentiment in Europe to die down a bit. If the UK does make it through with just a few bruises, I expect the EU to fall apart very soon after.
Whatever the case, the UK is fucked. Stay strong, BritGAF.
Furthermore, they need to signal to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar that they will welcome them back into the EU should they decide to go for independence or, in NI's case, try to go for unification with Ireland.
Either way, this is a big blow to the unification of Europe as an entity. As mentioned in the earlier thread, this will result in a big boost for the secessionist movements all across Europe (Belgium, Italy and Spain mostly).
Everybody also will watch with keen eyes at what exactly will happen to the UK's economy. If it fails - and this is the likely outcome - it will hopefully cause the anti-EU sentiment in Europe to die down a bit. If the UK does make it through with just a few bruises, I expect the EU to fall apart very soon after.
Whatever the case, the UK is fucked. Stay strong, BritGAF.
I can't say I'm unhappy about this.
The UK never felt like part of the EU anyway, not in terms of traveling there, and not in terms of currency.
And I never understood why researchers in the UK get almost twice as much money per person from EU-funded projects than most mainland countries
EU being inneficient in some aspects means little compared to the economic and social impacts of Brexit.
Nexus Zero
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I almost woke my girlfriend up laughing to this. Exactly it. For fucks sake.
Scotland will hopefully leave this madness. But as a Londoner it is wildly frustrating to be dragged into this.
Lightning Count
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Stay safe big city UK GAF, I can see there being riots over this.
Putin is writing those checks to fund special elections all across the EU. Not surprising how quick his puppets react for further destruction
giant_frying_pan
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Would numb the pain a little. As long as we still get independence
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gamechanger, I tried to grab your quote RE: economic base but the other thread got closed.
I replied elsewhere in more detail in the other thread (I think you saw it, looking back!), but essentially our energy requirements can be entirely renewable. It's already overtaken nuclear in our energy generation needs and a small amount of imports or shale gas can serve as reserves.
The IFS study is centred around the drop in oil - which is fair enough because that was a heavy emphasis by the SNP (too much in my view). What it doesn't fully account for are the infrastructure savings that we can make by excising functions that we currently serve for the UK as a whole, in particular defence.
To be honest, if England really want their sovereignty...then they don't need us. We certainly don't require subsidy via Barnett when we retain all of our own outputs.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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As an American, with the chance of a Trump presidency on my horizon, seeing the UK try to leave and potentially encouraging other European countries from leaving the EU feels like the beginning of the end. Like seeing the world descend back into savagery and stupidity.
Like, why can't people just fucking realize that being united is being better than apart? Do you want the world to still be arbitrarily split up 100, 200, 300 years from now in the name of patriotism and nationalism?
Like, why can't people just fucking realize that being united is being better than apart? Do you want the world to still be arbitrarily split up 100, 200, 300 years from now in the name of patriotism and nationalism?
Stumpokapow
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Yes, that plan is for other nations to unilaterally offer concessions on every economic issue while also demanding nothing in return from England. Belgium is literally going to pay for the wall that keeps all the migrants out, and if they complain the wall will get 50 feet taller.
Omega Kirby
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This honestly feels like an inflection point in England's already downward momentum, symbolically it's the twilight of the once great British empire, now literally smaller than the tiniest EU countries who are strong together. Has anyone other country dropped in prestige/power/wolds position this much (over past 150 years or so) Honest question
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