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[EloquentM]

i do not see anything there? Post deleted??

Here you are.

mmm no, it will be noticeable (technically speaking).

 

[DragonKnight]

The only reason anybody should be worried about the WiiU's power is for a potential lack of third party support down the line. Sure I could buy another console but that costs more and that would mean the my WiiU would be collecting dust. We'll see though. There's no reason to debate this any longer with E3 only being a week away.

 

[Rösti]

lherre comments about Wii U - PS4/720 gap, has made my hype went down the toilet u___u

Don't count your bodies before they are ready. While a substantial gap in performance (FLOPS or IPS, is that what you are referring to, EatChildren and lherre?) between Wii U and Durango/Orbis may be present, nothing's stopping Nintendo from releasing some kind of upgrade to the system once Microsoft's and Sony's respective consoles have launched. It's theoretically possible, as I speculated about in thread five (or was it four?), to add RAM via a NFC solution. It would be really slow and cost a buttload of money (to get it to any levels that make a difference anyway), but the opportunities are there. And Nintendo can probably come up with something than already existing solutions. Well, it of course all depends on architecture but I don't see it as something unfeasible.

Speaking about performance, does Nintendo supply its own benchmarks or is LINPACK/LAPACK (for example) used?

 

[bgassassin]

Meh, that's expected isn't it?

One would hope that the power differential would be noticable... it would have to be for them to justify launching 12-18 months later, and possibly at a higher price. It'd be better for Nintendo and Wii-U adopters if it wasn't too big a difference, and I don't think it will be "too big" a difference - but we'll see. There'll certainly be a difference though. There are a lot of unknowns about the next MS/Sony systems too -- control wise, they could be as revolutionary if not moreso than Wii-U. Jumping first must have been something Nintendo would have weighed very carefully... and ultimately, they probably feel that going first probably benefitted Microsoft quite a bit this generation. If there's anything we don't know about Wii-U already, it'll be because they want the other two closer to finalising their specs / plans before they reveal it.

Yeah. It won't be "too big". An analogy I and the late BurntPork have used is that PS4/Xbox 3 would be like a high-end gaming PC and Wii U a mid-range gaming PC. It won't have the same level of effects, but it would still be able to play the same games.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

A birdie was singing about it a few days ago.

birds lie and are always angry can't trust them

 

[BD1]

So it looks like no Final Fantasy XIV at Wii U. I know there was a rumor it was headed to Wii U, but I guess we won't be seeing it at Nintendo's conference.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475777

I'm still hoping for a surprise Crystal Chronicles reveal, though!

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Would it help you if we made up fake rumors and don't tell you about it ? I have to agree though, we need leaks/bullshit rumors.

Yes, yes it would. I'll be back in 8 hours, don't disappoint me GAF.





Please ):

 

[EloquentM]

birds lie and are always angry can't trust them

It was a reliable bird, but we'll all see come E3 won't we?

 

[bgassassin]

It was a reliable bird, but we'll all see come E3 won't we?

Why is the other piece of bacon laughing at the one with the heart? Does it represent a general GAFfer laughing at BPs ban? >_>

 

[Plinko]

It was a reliable bird, but we'll all see come E3 won't we?

Was the birdie bringing positive news about the OS, something that you would be excited about?

 

[Sadist]

So exciiiiiited

 

[bgassassin]

So exciiiiiited

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bflYjF90t7c#t=09s

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Remember Me has the best ending of any film in ages.

Before I go...I hated that movie with a passion. It was terrible and the ending did shit all to make it better.

 

[HylianTom]

So exciiiiiited

I am too. Nothing can dampen my enthusiasm, really.. we're going to get to see some new Nintendo games, and that alone is going to make for a good day.

 

[EloquentM]

Why is the other piece of bacon laughing at the one with the heart? Does it represent a general GAFfer laughing at BPs ban? >_>

Why yes, you are correct. Your interpretation of the abstract is without equal bg!

Was the birdie bringing positive news about the OS, something that you would be excited about?

he didn't talk that much about it. Other things that were said were positive though. You guys should really be in the irc more often, lol.

 

[Fantastical]

Before I go...I hated that movie with a passion. It was terrible and the ending did shit all to make it better.

I'm about this close to reading a Wikipedia article on this movie.

 

[DragonKnight]

Yeah. It won't be "too big". An analogy I and the late BurntPork have used is that PS4/Xbox 3 would be like a high-end gaming PC and Wii U a mid-range gaming PC. It won't have the same level of effects, but it would still be able to play the same games.

And that's all the matters. You think the millions of ps2 owners gave a shit that RE4 looked inferior to the GC version? Hell. They probably didn't even know the game was out on the cube in the first place.

Edit: As a matter of fact, every major third party game that I play on my consoles looks inferior to their PC counterparts.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

It was a reliable bird, but we'll all see come E3 won't we?

OS will not be shown at E3
why would anyone expect secretive Nintendo who will not even tell us the price show us an OS?

 

[Nibel]

I don't understand how people can get de-hyped just because a few people mentioned the elephant in the room: no, Wii U probably - or surely - won't be as or more powerful than 720/PS4, but this doesn't mean that the console itself isn't worth getting hyped for just because of its specs.

And yeah, other people's hype level is important to me

 

[Sadist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bflYjF90t7c#t=09s

I am too. Nothing can dampen my enthusiasm, really.. we're going to get to see some new Nintendo games, and that alone is going to make for a good day.

Yup! Plus, June is going to be an awesome month. E3, Pearl Jam and Project Zero II releasing here in Europe. Cool cool cool.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Am I the only one that unfortunately thinks that Nintendo won't show the OS at all, basically won't show anything but games. They'll leave people speculating on how everything actually functions until their later conference before release. I mean I hope we see it but I don't know. I see E3 going down like this:

- "we have a lot to talk about today blahblahblah industry blahblahblah"
- "3DS is doing fantastic but not as good as it could be doing in other places"
- "here is what we have coming for 3DS" *cue trailers, sizzle reels, whatever*
- "now the wiiU blahblah *insert joke about power/leaks* blah controller blah"
- "online will have these features and those features, netflix hooplah blahblah"
- "trailers for games/sizzle reel"
- *on stage demo of pikmin using the controller*
- "we will have support from *insert 3rd party companies"
- *cue bigger game support, any surprise if there is one*
- *shows a lot of super cheesy commercials*
- *shows one last surprise trailer, either retro/monolith"
- "go home"

Basically my point is I don't think they'll be like "we did a brand new OS, we love it!" and spend 10 minutes showing you around, friends lists, etc...

 

[EloquentM]

OS will not be shown at E3
why would anyone expect secretive Nintendo who will not even tell us the price show us an OS?

I agree but times are changing and so is Nintendo.

 

[Fantastical]

I don't think they'll show the OS either.

 

[HylianTom]

Am I the only one that unfortunately thinks that Nintendo won't show the OS at all, basically won't show anything but games. They'll leave people speculating on how everything actually functions until their later conference before release. I mean I hope we see it but I don't know. I see E3 going down like this:

- "we have a lot to talk about today blahblahblah industry blahblahblah"
- "3DS is doing fantastic but not as good as it could be doing in other places"
- "here is what we have coming for 3DS" *cue trailers, sizzle reels, whatever*
- "now the wiiU blahblah *insert joke about power/leaks* blah controller blah"
- "online will have these features and those features, netflix hooplah blahblah"
- "trailers for games/sizzle reel"
- *on stage demo of pikmin using the controller*
- "we will have support from *insert 3rd party companies"
- *cue bigger game support, any surprise if there is one*
- *shows a lot of super cheesy commercials*
- *shows one last surprise trailer, either retro/monolith"
- "go home"

Basically my point is I don't think they'll be like "we did a brand new OS, we love it!" and spend 10 minutes showing you around, friends lists, etc...

I konda hope we get to see that sometime during the week.

But then my inner skeptic asks, "Oh yeah, Tom? Well then when would you propose that happen? Hmm?"

Not sure.. :/

 

[ColtraineGF]

Am I the only one that unfortunately thinks that Nintendo won't show the OS at all, basically won't show anything but games. They'll leave people speculating on how everything actually functions until their later conference before release. I mean I hope we see it but I don't know.

I think they will just stick to games and services - mostly because that's what will keep people hype (at E3) instead of a slick OS. Unless they do a Vita-like demonstration (which I don't see them doing - they don't really do hardware demonstrations besides the usual console display).

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Am I the only one that unfortunately thinks that Nintendo won't show the OS at all, basically won't show anything but games. They'll leave people speculating on how everything actually functions until their later conference before release. I mean I hope we see it but I don't know. I see E3 going down like this:

- "we have a lot to talk about today blahblahblah industry blahblahblah"
- "3DS is doing fantastic but not as good as it could be doing in other places"
- "here is what we have coming for 3DS" *cue trailers, sizzle reels, whatever*
- "now the wiiU blahblah *insert joke about power/leaks* blah controller blah"
- "online will have these features and those features, netflix hooplah blahblah"
- "trailers for games/sizzle reel"
- *on stage demo of pikmin using the controller*
- "we will have support from *insert 3rd party companies"
- *cue bigger game support, any surprise if there is one*
- *shows a lot of super cheesy commercials*
- *shows one last surprise trailer, either retro/monolith"
- "go home"

Basically my point is I don't think they'll be like "we did a brand new OS, we love it!" and spend 10 minutes showing you around, friends lists, etc...

but Miyamoto will indeed take 15 minutes to show off Pikmin 3.5

 

[Sadist]

They won't show a lot of it that's for sure. I however do expect we'll see something.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

but Miyamoto will indeed take 15 minutes to show off Pikmin 3.5

it's in there! Kinda sucks. Would rather see a 5 minute demo of pikmin and 10 mins of OS.

 

[lherre]

Yeah. It won't be "too big". An analogy I and the late BurntPork have used is that PS4/Xbox 3 would be like a high-end gaming PC and Wii U a mid-range gaming PC. It won't have the same level of effects, but it would still be able to play the same games.

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

 

[EloquentM]

I know you guys will be excited and pleasantly surprised.

 

[CrAzYLeGzLU]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bflYjF90t7c#t=09s

This response made my day.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

it's in there! Kinda sucks. Would rather see a 5 minute demo of pikmin and 10 mins of OS.

do dice for you this is not Apple

 

[EloquentM]

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

How low can you go?

 

[Linkhero1]

Yeah. It won't be "too big". An analogy I and the late BurntPork have used is that PS4/Xbox 3 would be like a high-end gaming PC and Wii U a mid-range gaming PC. It won't have the same level of effects, but it would still be able to play the same games.

I can live with this. I also see no reason third parties could possibly use to not port 720/PS4 games to Wii U.

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

Ouch. That's pretty noticeable.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I know you guys will be excited and pleasantly surprised.

spill ur beans before you bacon is toasted!

 

[Oddduck]

I don't understand how people can get de-hyped just because a few people mentioned the elephant in the room: no, Wii U probably - or surely - won't be as or more powerful than 720/PS4, but this doesn't mean that the console itself isn't worth getting hyped for just because of its specs.

And yeah, other people's hype level is important to me

Don't worry.

It all comes down to exclusives and Nintendo games anyways. The hype level will go back up at E3.

I know my hype for Wii U is through the roof. I'm excited like crazy for their conference and the console.

I think what's happening is a lot of people want Wii U to be their main or only system. And they don't want to buy a PS4/Durango for third party games, but they feel like they might have no choice.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

awwshhhhhhhhhhittt

 

[bgassassin]

Why yes, you are correct. Your interpretation of the abstract is without equal bg!

*bows*

Thank you. Thank you.

And that's all the matters. You think the millions of ps2 owners gave a shit that RE4 looked inferior to the GC version? Hell. They probably didn't even know the game was out on the cube in the first place.

Edit: As a matter of fact, every major third party game that I play on my consoles looks inferior to their PC counterparts.

Haha. And if you told the ones that didn't know that it was on GC first, they would probably argue the PS2 version looked better without even seeing how it looked on GC. But RE4 does make for a good example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qz0LbKpZtI

 

[Hiltz]

Am I the only one that unfortunately thinks that Nintendo won't show the OS at all, basically won't show anything but games. They'll leave people speculating on how everything actually functions until their later conference before release. I mean I hope we see it but I don't know. I see E3 going down like this:

- "we have a lot to talk about today blahblahblah industry blahblahblah"
- "3DS is doing fantastic but not as good as it could be doing in other places"
- "here is what we have coming for 3DS" *cue trailers, sizzle reels, whatever*
- "now the wiiU blahblah *insert joke about power/leaks* blah controller blah"
- "online will have these features and those features, netflix hooplah blahblah"
- "trailers for games/sizzle reel"
- *on stage demo of pikmin using the controller*
- "we will have support from *insert 3rd party companies"
- *cue bigger game support, any surprise if there is one*
- *shows a lot of super cheesy commercials*
- *shows one last surprise trailer, either retro/monolith"
- "go home"

Basically my point is I don't think they'll be like "we did a brand new OS, we love it!" and spend 10 minutes showing you around, friends lists, etc...

We do know that Nintendo will have a separate discussion with hardware producer Katsuya Eguchi soon after the main conference.

 

[Plinko]

he didn't talk that much about it. Other things that were said were positive though. You guys should really be in the irc more often, lol.

I have no idea what "irc" even means.

 

[wsippel]

Didn't Nintendo patent some weird graphics technology with depth mapped textures a few years ago? If I remember correctly, it was basically displacement mapping, but didn't actually affect the geometry in any way. Instead, the individual pixels of a texture were drawn above or below the surface the texture was mapped to.

 

[bgassassin]

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

I'll concede to that only if we are looking at Xbox 3 as high-end and PS4 as mid-range.

 

[Plinko]

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

And if that's the case we'll have the exact same situation as the current-generation. Nintendo will again be left in the cold by third parties.

That's what I've been expecting, though. I don't think Nintendo ever gets in the good graces of third parties again unless they team up with a major partner in their next console (Google, Apple, etc).

 

[CrAzYLeGzLU]

I'm pretty sure they won't show very much of the OS at the conference. That's something that's usually showed off by a rep on the show floor. Or in a separate smaller meeting.

 

[Christberg]

I'll put wiiu as a low specs Pc compared to the others with the actual data

So are you expecting 600w, big and loud for PS4 and X720?

 

[Oddduck]

If I remember correctly, they didn't show the "channels" OS feature (news channel, weather channel, mii channel, photo channel) for the Wii until a few months after E3 2006.

They showed it at a separate conference.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

reggie to spend specs by SwapNote?

 

[Plinko]

So are you expecting 600w, big and loud for PS4 and X720?

Every time I hear people talk about the rumored specs for the new MS console (which I believe to be true) I'm still stunned they're going to release a console like that. I can't possibly see how they could put something like that out for under $400.

 

[EloquentM]

spill ur beans before you bacon is toasted!

Lol I really have no info besides what was said in the chat room and even that was vague information. It was delicious information though. Sogood.gif. I just haven't said anything because we were kind of told in chat just to keep it to ourselves.

I have no idea what "irc" even means.

Nintendo Gaf irc is the chat room we have for when the conference is in session. It's been active for the past couple of days but I can't provide you with a link since I'm on my phone atm.

 

[lherre]

I'll concede to that only if we are looking at Xbox 3 as high-end and PS4 as mid-range.

Ps4 is not final yet and can change a lot but Xbox 3 it's more or less clear right now and the gap is big in almost every part