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[Zaph]

So because he didn't ask where the white people were in a tiny niche subgenre, we shouldn't ask where the poc's are in the majority of films produced?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

There were a lot of responses he could've done.

He picked one of the top 5 worst ones.

Holy fuck. That was the worst possible response

I think it ranks below

1. I hate black people
2. Blacks are bad actors
3. The movie was funded by the Klan

At least

 

[Slayven]

Dumb question but, I'm not familiar with The Brady Bunch (I know of it, but never watched it), DID they add POC characters to the show or was he just giving a hypothetical scenario? I'm just trying to understand if he was getting mad at a poorly written character/s on that show or if he's just assuming adding a POC character would instantly label them an awful token character.

It sucks either way, and this is the first I heard about the diversity of the source material being drastically reduced for the film. man I was already lukewarm toward the film, definitely passing on it now.

During it last season BB did add a poorly written shoehorned in character. This was him

One of the most hated characters in tv history

 

[Htown]

https://youtu.be/bFzLRP8e4vE

Spoiler

also fuck Tim Burton, what a dumbass

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I think it ranks below

1. I hate black people
2. Blacks are bad actors
3. The movie was funded by the Klan

At least

and #4 was "I just dont think niggas can be special"

 

[Dead]

Irony is that this is probably his most diverse movie ever

Spoiler

no Depp or Bonham Carter

 

[besada]

One of the most hated characters in tv history

The original Wesley Crusher.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

It is kind of ironic that he brought up blaxploitation films as part of his defense since, one of the reason that genre was born was because of a lack of diversity in Hollywood in the first place. What a dumbass

 

[Saraluna]

What a disappointing, myopic response.

 

[andythinkpad]

It's like Tim Burton has a tenure in Diesny U, he can whatever the fuck he wants.

 

[Choppasmith]

During it last season BB did add a poorly written shoehorned in character. This was him

One of the most hated characters in tv history

Huh...

With his comment I was imagining something akin to a really forced character in the vein of Jimmie Walker on Good Times (again, never watched it, but know of it) but it turns out they DID shoehorn a character into the show just not a token character. Thanks for the info.

 

[Toxi]

I remember back when I was a child watching The Brady Bunch and they started to get all politically correct.

I just want to remind people that Tim Burton seriously thinks The Brady Bunch got "all politically correct".

The Brady Bunch.

 

[TalonJH]

Samuel L. Jackson brought a clip to Jimmy Fallon and it looked horrible anyway.

Also, his reasoning is dumb.

 

[Doctor West]

What a disgusting response. Fucking awful.

 

[Salex_]

"a black"

Yikes alert

? What's wrong with that? Black and White are political correct. Those are the only colors that are acceptable to use.

 

[Man Called Aerodynamics]

Dig dat hole.

Why wouldn't he just say "It wasn't intentional" and leave it at that, or just refuse to answer the question. It would have been better than whatever that was supposed to be.

 

[xevis]

I feel like he was tryyyyyying to say that putting in "token" characters of other races is insulting but

uh

i mean i'm trying to be generous here, but ah, fuck it

Would it make any difference if he was trying to say that? It's bullshit no matter how you look at it. Like, oh, the default for film characters should be white, unless they're exceptionally well realised, in which case more diversity is acceptable. The entire argument is premised on an artificial and arbitrary barrier to inclusion and it's bullshit.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Samuel L. Jackson brought a clip to Jimmy Fallon and it looked horrible anyway.

Also, his reasoning is dumb.

Did he literally bring a clip?

 

[Toxi]

Next we're gonna see Tim Burton saying a show like Full House could have never been made in today's politically correct climate.

 

[spazchicken]

The pilot episodes of the original Star Trek had an all white cast.

The one we all know is much better.

 

[jett]

Tim Burton does not give a fuck.

It sounds like he'd align himself with the GG mentality.

 

[xevis]

To be fair we don't know what race the invisible kid is.

So white s/he's transparent

 

[AlexBasch]

Man, I hated Tim Burton for his movies and now I have a justified reason to call him a piece of shit.

What a fucking idiot.

 

[Puck Beaverton]

Next we're gonna see Tim Burton saying a show like Full House could have never been made in today's politically correct climate.

Political correctness is a good thing if we can avoid shit like that

 

[Krejlooc]

So me liking a lot of blaxploitation movies is the same as flying a confederate flag? WTF? That's bullshit.

If you think there is nothing wrong with blaxploitation films at all, yeah.

 

[commedieu]

Man, I hated Tim Burton for his movies and now I have a justified reason to call him a piece of shit.

What a fucking idiot.

Same. And he didn't even direct nightmare before Christmas.

 

[Choppasmith]

The pilot episodes of the original Star Trek had an all white cast.

The one we all know is much better.

And to think the studio execs thought it was crazy to have a WOMAN in charge.

? What's wrong with that? Black and White are political correct. Those are the only colors that are acceptable to use.

Pretty sure saying "a black" comes off as demeaning like they're an object that's less than human. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[spindashing]

lmao did he really drop a "well I loved blaxploitation movies"

 

[Gleethor]

"a black"

 

[xevis]

Pretty sure saying "a black" comes off as demeaning like they're an object that's less than human. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

It could make sense as a literal translation from e.g. French. Except Tim Burton comes from Burbank CA

 

[Manmademan]

Pretty sure saying "a black" comes off as demeaning like they're an object that's less than human. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

yep. it's about as correct as saying "some jew" or referring to asians as "that oriental".

 

[Litan]

? What's wrong with that? Black and White are political correct. Those are the only colors that are acceptable to use.

'A black' and 'the blacks' are red flags. Its racists or really ignorant people you'll hear use those words like that.

 

[TalonJH]

Did he literally bring a clip?

He brought a clip in the same way as always where PR chooses a clip for outlets to air during press tours.

 

[Sonicbug]

Burton's response is uniquely idiotic, he had chances to diversify the cast and didn't, that's all he had to say. I don't think the book had anyone in it that was anything but some variation of white, though. At least the graphic novel doesn't depict any of them as people of color either.

 

[Kurt Angle]

burton like his movies are stuck in a time past its expiration date

 

[ArgyleReptile]

Oh okay, good to know a movie has to "call for" diversity for there to be a diverse cast. Apparently general representation isn't fucking good enough.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

So how long before his publicist "clarifies" his asinine statements?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I can hear Sam Jacksons response to Burtons comment: "YES HE DEAERVES TO DIE! AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL!"

 

[Slayven]

? What's wrong with that? Black and White are political correct. Those are the only colors that are acceptable to use.

It a simple way to other and dehumanize. And a pretty big red flag a person is a piece of shit

 

[Mix Master]

"a black"

Yikes

 

[Dram]

Dumb question but, I'm not familiar with The Brady Bunch (I know of it, but never watched it), DID they add POC characters to the show or was he just giving a hypothetical scenario? I'm just trying to understand if he was getting mad at a poorly written character/s on that show or if he's just assuming adding a POC character would instantly label them an awful token character.

From looking at the show's wiki, it looks like those kids were only in one episode of the last season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brady_Bunch

Kelly's Kids

A final-season Brady Bunch episode, "Kelly's Kids", was intended as a pilot for a prospective spin-off series of the same name. Ken Berry starred as Ken Kelly, a friend and neighbor of the Bradys', who with his wife Kathy adopted three orphaned boys of different racial backgrounds. While Kelly's Kids was not subsequently picked up as a full series, producer Sherwood Schwartz would rework the basic premise for the short-lived 1980s sitcom Together We Stand starring Elliott Gould and Dee Wallace.

 

[Lebron]

So Depp and Burton are both terrible people?

PB&J in real life

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Like, OK, let’s have an Asian child and a black. I used to get more offended by that than just... I grew up watching blaxploitation movies, right? And I said, that’s great.

 

[geomon]

Hollywood Elite Director, lives in a bubble. Shocking news!

 

[Rastafarian42]

"A black"
Fucking moron. His movies have been shit for some time now so no big loss.

Definitely the indication of a racist statement coming

 

[SolidChamp]

...

Wow. Fuck Tim Burton. And his shitty films.

 

[DOWN]

"a black"

 

[jmood88]

Fuck Tim Burton. I hope the movie flops.

 

[ReplacementPelican]

Yeah, I get that this guy said some stupid things but can we really be so harsh on the mastermind behind such classics as 2001's Planet of the Apes? I don't think so.

What a cunt. I just can't even fathom this level of stupidity.

"A black"

Yeah. I do hear a lot of Americans say 'blacks' and 'whites' though and those does sound weird to my ears (UK), like, I'd never say 'blacks' I'd say 'black people'. It's kind of like the difference between saying 'he's as Jew' and 'he's Jewish', something is lost in the lack of 'people' and '-ish' for me. I know some people who live near me have said the same but we may just be being weird.

 

[Onemic]

"A black"