Because it is. Praying doesn't change a damn thing. He deserves prison, but he'll never receive it.
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TLC cancels 19 Kids and Counting after oldest Kid admits to molesting children
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Because it is. Praying doesn't change a damn thing. He deserves prison, but he'll never receive it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I am a good guy. We just have different beliefs. No I don't agree with marrying someone of the same sex. But I have nothing against homosexuals, most are actually good people. Again tolerance, respect and acceptance, does not equal approval
makingmusic476
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He can, though he shouldn't.
I used to be like him/her, many years ago. Moving away from religion in general is what allowed to eventually see the contradictions in so much of what I used to believe.
Sho_Nuff82
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Having your beliefs is fine, imposing your beliefs on others through government to limit their rights and lower their standard of living is something else entirely.
Rabbi_Vole
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Now you're sounding crazy. First the fight was all about tolerance. NOW it's about approval? What next? How heavy are those goal posts?
Then no, you're not a good guy. You're a bigot, plain and simple.I am a good guy. We just have different beliefs. No I don't agree with marrying someone of the same sex. But I have nothing against homosexuals, most are actually good people. Again tolerance, respect and acceptance, does not equal approval
Arrowgigantic
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Did someone take them away? You just can't have your beliefs for someone other than you, and you can't expect others to pat you on the back. Your beliefs are terrible. You can have them, and that's all you get.
Do you understannnnnnnndu
Why?
Rabbi_Vole
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You guys need to revisit the South Park ep "The Death Camp of Tolerance."
Even if you're being sarcastic, whatever your belief, why is it so hard to approve of everyone loving who they choose to love, without government interference? God said he'll sort it out, so just live your life.
He has a problem with other people having the same rights he does which makes him a shitty person. Judging by your defense of him combined with your other posts you are too.
Rabbi_Vole
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Why can't you tolerate that some might have religious beliefs that run contrary to them "approving" of these particular lifestyles. As long as we all tolerate each other and not impose, what's the problem? You forcing people to approve and/or advocate for something they're opposed to is equally as abhorrent.
Toleration is the middle ground.
Rabbi_Vole
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Lol. I'm pro gay marriage and have 2 gay siblings. I'm just not a myopic idiot.
There's only one side interfering with the lives of other people. Also lol "lifestyles".
Lol, middle ground. So you harbor your ill will and only hold it against them in secret. Totally cool with that. Something something institutional something.
Arrowgigantic
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South Park doesn't have anything to do with the real world.
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Because those same people are trying to push their beliefs on others through legislation, so they are imposing. And that includes the sicko this thread is about.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Always a smart move to call others idiots.
Yep, that's the key counter to the argument.
You are not being tolerant if you are actively voting or pushing for rights to be taken away from others, or against rights being given to others.
Edit: In particular when there is no logical reason for such rights to be withheld, or not be granted.
Rabbi_Vole
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I said I'm not an idiot. Any inference is on you.
Because said beliefs are actively undermining and deniying basic rights of said people of that particular "lifestyle".
Also lol. "i can't be a bigot!! ihave gay friends/relatives"
kitchenmotors
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I can't with people making EXCUSES and DEFENDING Josh. Saying he was young or didn't know any better as a teenager is bullshit.
I bet if this was your daughter being molested by your teenage boy, you'd have a very different reaction, or maybe not. Maybe you'd cover it up like the two lunatic psychos that produced all these offspring.
I bet if this was your daughter being molested by your teenage boy, you'd have a very different reaction, or maybe not. Maybe you'd cover it up like the two lunatic psychos that produced all these offspring.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Wow, I always figured you were more mature then that. Oh well...
Arrowgigantic
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Prove it.
Aaron Strife
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I'm a good guy, I just don't believe certain rights should be extended to certain groups of people.I am a good guy. We just have different beliefs. No I don't agree with marrying someone of the same sex. But I have nothing against homosexuals, most are actually good people. Again tolerance, respect and acceptance, does not equal approval
Funny how religious tolerance only applies to making sure your beliefs are kept status quo.
Rabbi_Vole
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You took issue with the "idiot," but completely ignored her calling me a "piece of shit."
Because tolerating something is a tacit acceptance, which is why the tolerance movement has always been based on a misnomer. Being "tolerant" is a socially acceptable form of bigotry, now, frankly. It's like saying "I approve even though I don't approve", you see?
If somebody does something you don't like, but you do nothing about it, you are "tolerating" it but still accept that it is happening and it's not your business. But going out, making it clear you don't approve, and worse still perptuating and engendering hostility against that behavior, you are undermining that "tolerance" you presume to have; because even subtle, ideological actions of intolerance are intolerance too.
Ninja Scooter
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What would Jesus NOT do?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I'm a good guy, I'm just going to defend a guy who touched his five year old sister's genitals against her consent, along with three of his other sisters, and then went on to push hateful rhetoric to try to limit the rights of others.
ab.aeterno
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I don't have to tolerate people who think I don't deserve equal treatment and protection under the law, and I'm not sorry about it. I know this must shock your South Park "both sides/somewhere in the middle" mind, but tolerance does not extend to bigotry.
"But I have [minority] in my life!" is a pretty shitty and meaningless response, but ok I guess.
Circle Jerk
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That's cause she's right.
Solid Samus
Banned
you guys are being giant dicks
Probably. But at least not child molesting (and supporters) giant dicks.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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you guys are being giant dicks
This doesn't make a lot of sense.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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If someone says "he raped five children, but he was young so it's understandable," you gotta let that go and be tolerant, man.
metalslimer
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Never thought I'd see the we must respect everyone's beliefs extend to child molestation
I hope they throw everything at this scum and his stupid parents, they knew what he was and did nothing about it and I bet a lot of it had to do with them not wanting to loose out on the show money. The mother was just a baby factory for that sicko the way she kept birthing he had his pick of victims for years. I do hope their god and their set of religious law is real just so these pedophiles and their enablers, and those who shield them and encourage them, end up in the hell they so much fear.
Yeah guys, check out this episode of South Park. You guys seen South Park? I like Cartman. Authoritah! LOL!
Tolerance:the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
Tolerance for a non-believer is to allow Christians to worship as they want -- to take the actions of their faith as it pertains to their own personal liberty.
So, tolerance for a Christian should be to tolerate gay marriage and the lifestyles of others they may not agree with.
In practice, though, Christians act as if tolerance towards them should be to allow them to make other people's lives a living hell by forcing the Christian perspective on everyone through legislation.
See, Christians are already the beneficiaries of tolererance. Now it is time for them to extend it to others.
Tolerance for a non-believer is to allow Christians to worship as they want -- to take the actions of their faith as it pertains to their own personal liberty.
So, tolerance for a Christian should be to tolerate gay marriage and the lifestyles of others they may not agree with.
In practice, though, Christians act as if tolerance towards them should be to allow them to make other people's lives a living hell by forcing the Christian perspective on everyone through legislation.
See, Christians are already the beneficiaries of tolererance. Now it is time for them to extend it to others.
Dude, one one episode, they totally taught the ultimate philosophy of the truth being somewhere in between, so you are always just as wrong as me
Except you are probably more wrong because I have the ultimate truth from a show starting a talking piece of poo.
Rabbi_Vole
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I in no way supported the Duggarts, Jorge, or enacting "anti gay" legislation. Nor am I using my siblings as "some of my best friends are black." I've experienced everything 2nd hand and it has had an impact on my worldview.
I just pointed out forcing people to approve and even advocate gay rights when the original push was for tolerance is seen by many as "moving the goal posts." I DO NOT support ANYONE imposing their beliefs on others. The almost militant approach some of you employ I believe actually hurts the cause.
Rimon-hanit
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Wow liking video games at some point in your life sure does crate some varied demographic, and for the defense force, if your belief system contains the view that certain people don't deserve the same rights as you do, you should probably review it.
Solid Samus
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no, you have to imply that the person suggesting you be tolerant of the person who says that, is not simply misguided -and here's why- but is, in fact, a shitty person in real life. Which is okay for you or those whom agree with you to state outright based on what little he's said, but not for him to get close to implying about anyone else in any context, because reasons. Expectations of empathy are just something to hold other people to, anyway, you know? I'm not defending jorge so much as bombassador because the ways you guys are addressing his posts are pretty goddamn combatative bordering on petty.
Rabbi_Vole
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For the record, I neither addressed the child molestation nor called for tolerance, acceptance or advocation of child molesters.
Aaron Strife
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I know this definitely doesn't apply to others but if someone comes at it from a perspective of "I don't personally approve of gay marriage but it's none of my business and government shouldn't interfere with that" then I can somewhat respect that. That is tolerance. As soon as you start actively hurting people by say, voting to take away their right to marry then you're no longer being tolerant. You are a bigot.
Tesseract
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tolerance of intolerance is cowardice. we ain't in the dark ages anymore
Rabbi_Vole
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And I agree.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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So...
>Someone says he doesn't thinks gays should have equal rights and that it's understandable than Duggar raped five girls.
>Posters say "what the fuck is wrong with you, dickhead."
>bomb says: You have to be tolerant of the child rape defense force poster.
>Posters: "Fucking hell."
>You: "The problem is that we don't have empathy for those that have tolerance for people defending child rape."
???????
PadWarrior
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My heart is truly sad for these girls. As a parent of a little girl I can't even fathom why their own father didn't protect them. I listen to Focus on the Family every morning heading into work and they had 2 gentlemen on on their who were sexually abused as kids. Very sad story. But through prayer and the help of Jesus they were able to heal. Very good listen/read if anyone is interested
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/med...tm_campaign=broadcast_roeandmurpheypt2_may_20
I pray these girls aren't turned away from the Lord due to their parents twisting the Word of God. I will keep these girls in my prayers.
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/med...tm_campaign=broadcast_roeandmurpheypt2_may_20
I pray these girls aren't turned away from the Lord due to their parents twisting the Word of God. I will keep these girls in my prayers.
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