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Toby Kebbell to play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four movie
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Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Ideally Doctor Doom is going to be completely covered from head to toe (unless they mess him up like the first movie) and his voice will be distorted so it's almost impossible to tell if someone will be good in the role. Honestly the script will be more important than the actor selected to play him. It's like judging Darth Vader based on the guy in the suit.
Discotheque
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i think guy ritchie went up his own ass after snatch but toby kebbell was probably the best thing about that (idris elba/tom hardy/gerard butler were fun too)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20DN9wDhbAo
i don't see him as doom though
Robot Pants
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Sounds bad, man.
You guys do realize this has a different director, different writers, different producers,etc than the other Fantastic Four films right? Hell even the people in charge of 20th Century Fox are different. Nothing's been filmed yet. There's not even a plot synopsis. I could understand people being angry since they want Dr Doom and others in the MCU but there's really nothing to indicate whether this will be a bad film yet. It's all up in the air at this point.
Bobby Roberts
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Only someone from the Royal Shakespeare Company could really dig down and bring to life the menace, nuance, and indimidation factor inherent in a character as rich as VICTOR VON DOOM.
ScottSullivan
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Can't really be any worse then those last two F4 movies...can it?!
If only I were as witty. lol
I think in the grand scheme of complex or conflicted characters and stories that have graced cinema and theater alike, the importance of telling this story with these actors aren't that high on the totem pole, to be frank.
We as nerds love it when filmmakers take this as seriously as we do, especially when it shows, but these films are just mindless entertainment as a whole.
I think my dream Doom casting is Mads Mikkelsen:
He's too good for this.
Discotheque
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i'd prefer a viggo or mads, but going by the cast it's looking like they want to keep everybody 30-under in here.
it would be out of place to see somebody older/more gravitas against these kids.
it would be out of place to see somebody older/more gravitas against these kids.
Only poor casting decision is Jaime Bell as The Thing imo. I don't see how he's going to pull that off at all. Everyone else is capable of playing the role they were cast especially Michael B Jordan.
QuiteWhittle
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Wasn't he supposed to be Malekith in Thor:TDW at some point? Doom can only be a step up from that.
Bobby Roberts
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He's a supervillian created by Stan Lee. There's not that much fucking depth there.
Even the best written superheroes/supervillians aren't so psychologically complex that they necessitate serious acting chops to portray them. Sure, it really helps, because a good actor helps elevate the material. But to suggest the material is so inherently strong that only a great actor could possibly touch it is fucking ludicrous.
It's DOCTOR DOOM. You don't NEED Gary Oldman to play him. It'd be cool, yeah. But whatever Shakespearean tones you're seeing in the character aren't hidden so deep that you need a classically trained thespian miner to unearth their riches.
Besides, Shakespeare basically wrote sitcoms and soap operas. They just sound real pretty
Discotheque
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yeah all the people considered for this are better actors than the nip tuck guy
Josh Trank. I think he's only directed Chronicle.
RedHotChimiChanga
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So is Doctor Doom gonna be as shit as the first movie?
~looks at OP~
Yep.
~looks at OP~
Yep.
Batman vs Superman would like a word.
DonasaurusRex
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yes this is true...its not the film or the actors its the studio...FUCK we need silver surfer back....
Ok, this can be a good F4 flick. Not that Chronicle was a masterpiece or anything, but i feel like this guy can get good performances out of his cast.
I'll reserve judgment until we actually start seeing stuff. The writers any good?
Bobby Roberts
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that's not what I'm arguing, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're intelligent enough to realize that
The Stan Lee crack was that - a crack. The other paragraphs (the ones you're willfully misrepresenting) explain my stance really clearly. I never said they don't deserve depth, or that they don't warrant it. I'm saying its not really there. Not significantly. Therefore you don't NEED a high caliber Daniel Day Lewis kind of motherfucker to even attempt bringing it to life.
My argument isnt that there's zero depth there. It's that you're VASTLY overstating what depth there is.
There isn't a single Superhero role, good guy OR bad guy (and think of how simplistic those descriptors are in and of themselves) that has been so finely, carefully characterized that people NEED a top-notch actor to essay the role.
There's nothing fuckin WRONG with that, either. Lotta really good films made with perfectly good (and sometimes great) performances in em
Theres a bunch of lessor known writers attached but it looks like Simon Kinberg was the last one to rewrite the screenplay and polish the script. He wrote or had a hand in writing X-Men: Days of Future Past, Mr and Mrs Smith, Jumper, Sherlock Holmes, X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men First Class. Not exactly all great films haha. I'll wait until I see Days of Future Past to judge him though.
Thank god someone brought it up, he was great in that.
Sad part about that is he already played doom on charmed.
Sad part is Reed Richards has a crazy history before meeting the rest of the 4. He was a Indiana Jones type adventurer.
BearFlexington
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I think my dream Doom casting is Mads Mikkelsen:
Wow. I was just going to post my support for this decision until I saw your post. Mikkelsen would have nailed it.
seems to be what their going for in this reboot
The real surprise is that people watched Charmed.
Discotheque
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i think viewtiful slay also watches gilmore girls so don't put this behind him!
One of the few things Kelly Cucco can ruin.
2 seconds of their pop culture reference infused witty banner makes me want to kill myself.
childplease
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Not for roles in this movie.
John Goodman is also an amazing actor would he work as human torch ?
Sho_Nuff82
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I think my dream Doom casting is Mads Mikkelsen:
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Exactly. To date they are still two of the most inspired choices for superhero casting ever, up there with RDJ and Bale. They nailed their roles, and they carried the film. It's a shame that everything else is so terrible.
that's not what I'm arguing, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're intelligent enough to realize that
The Stan Lee crack was that - a crack. The other paragraphs (the ones you're willfully misrepresenting) explain my stance really clearly. I never said they don't deserve depth, or that they don't warrant it. I'm saying its not really there. Not significantly. Therefore you don't NEED a high caliber Daniel Day Lewis kind of motherfucker to even attempt bringing it to life.
My argument isnt that there's zero depth there. It's that you're VASTLY overstating what depth there is.
There isn't a single Superhero role, good guy OR bad guy (and think of how simplistic those descriptors are in and of themselves) that has been so finely, carefully characterized that people NEED a top-notch actor to essay the role.
There's nothing fuckin WRONG with that, either. Lotta really good films made with perfectly good (and sometimes great) performances in em
On the contrary, I feel that villains like Doom, Magneto, and Ra's Al Ghul have been given sufficient motivation over the years beyond "lol I'm evil" that you can't just mad lib any actor into the role. Doom requires a top notch presence. He has to be simultaneously condescending, charismatic, convincingly brilliant, and menacing all at once. There's a good reason everyone hated his portrayal in the 2000's FF movies.
-MD-
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enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Damn, now I want Viggo and Mads to make a movie together.
Bingo. Three guys on the come up and all 3 have the potential to be huge stars that are top flight actors.
People need to stop with the old actor shit. Any time they reboot these things are going to go after young actors. The studios ideally want to get 3-4 movies out the cast.
TDLink
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The problem isn't the quality of the actors being selected. The problem is the actors, for the most part, completely don't fit the roles. I'm all for re-imaginings but with the current cast it's like the Fantastic Four won't even be the Fantastic Four. The movie still may end up alright but it will be the F4 in name only.
And really we'd all rather the property go back to Marvel instead so that certain characters (particularly antagonists) tied up in the license agreement can be used in their films.
And really we'd all rather the property go back to Marvel instead so that certain characters (particularly antagonists) tied up in the license agreement can be used in their films.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Exactly. I could give a rat's ass about the Fantastic Four themselves, always thought they were the lamest of all of Marvel's comic properties, but I would LOVE for the Marvel Movie Universe to be able to incorporate a proper Dr. Doom, Skrulls and especially Galactus. *sigh* oh what could have been...
Brianimaniac
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Everyone in this movie is a young douchebag.
Rastafarian42
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I hope they finally portray Dr. Doom faithfully he's my favorite all time Marvel villain.
starchild excalibur
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Don't have much of an opinion about this guy, but i liked him in Rock n' Rolla. At the very least, the new Fantastic Four film will be an interesting experiment, I suppose.
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