freefornow
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Did they? Are you thinking of the HD DVD drive? This didnt read xbox or 360 games discs.
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Tom Henderson - PS5 redesign planned for 2023 with detachable disc drive
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skit_data
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Yes, I was thinking of that one. So yeah, it’s not exactly the same really but sorta related.
Yeah i remember they had the external hd-dvd player, we all know how that turned out.
Justin9mm
Member
Detachable disc drive is very interesting and makes sense business wise.
Don't have to make two separate consoles and they will know by sales of the detachable disc drive how the market is trending for the next generation. I really hope that means we may not see digital only next gen. I'm a huge fan of paying less for a physical disc, completing and on selling. This keeps my hobby a lot cheaper in the long run. I don't care for collecting games. I prefer digital out of convenience but not for the prices Sony charge in Australia for new release games. My digital library is full of PS Plus freebies and deep sale purchases.
Don't have to make two separate consoles and they will know by sales of the detachable disc drive how the market is trending for the next generation. I really hope that means we may not see digital only next gen. I'm a huge fan of paying less for a physical disc, completing and on selling. This keeps my hobby a lot cheaper in the long run. I don't care for collecting games. I prefer digital out of convenience but not for the prices Sony charge in Australia for new release games. My digital library is full of PS Plus freebies and deep sale purchases.
akaFullmetal
Member
Hearing about optional drive is interesting but also sad that it means digital system only is coming ever closer. As long as they offer a disc drive option then it's fine for now.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Detachable drive seems to indicate a new way to push digital format to players.
In this way, digital-only console will be the default standard console, while the physical solution will be relegated to a mere optional peripheral. All they need to do is to artificial supply the external disc drive, which sill prompt the remaining physical only Playstation gamers to switch to digital.
In this way, digital-only console will be the default standard console, while the physical solution will be relegated to a mere optional peripheral. All they need to do is to artificial supply the external disc drive, which sill prompt the remaining physical only Playstation gamers to switch to digital.
Looks like it could potentially be a good idea. Simplifies to one form factor. With the added benefit of user replaceable Blu-ray drives.
Oddvintagechap
Member
I always thought they needed to make one sku. Making disc optional but available to everyone is a great idea. I can see myself buying one if for some reason I buy myself like a special edition of game that comes with a copy.
TLZ
Banned
Lovely. I love this. This is much better. One console. One price (the lower one like the digital version $399, hopefully less because slim). And if you want discs buy the attachment. And if the disc drive carked it for whatever reason (laser, broken internals, fed it cookies) buy another one. And if you don't want it anymore and gone all digital, sell it. And if you went digital first and one discs later buy one. Brilliant.
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Sleepwalker
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I don't like it honestly
Kdad
Member
Never heard this. It saddens me that it was after my time as the the lunchbreak DJ at school...it would have been a hit.
AREYOUOKAY?
Member
At last we are coming full circle.
I heard it on Bevis and Butthead as a kid.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This is the idea Henderson reports.
1 PS5 model. Optional disc drive that attaches and uses USB-C for data.
Hopefully they can shrink the size somewhat but this is very clever. I'm all for it.
I'll stick with my day one if its the same size, but if they shrink the foot print by a reasonable amount I might pick one up.
Saying that, if the pro launches the year after I'll probs just hold out.
Ezquimacore
Banned
Sounds useless
ZehDon
Gold Member
I suspect this type of approach will be standard for the PS6 and Xbox Series X 2, or whatever Uncle Phil calls it. Most players don't use their disc drives given the digital attach rate, so it makes sense to push it out as an accessory to help make the removal of the disc drive palatable.
The real question is: will this decrease the price of the PS5, or, will Sony pocket the difference and charge for the addon.
The real question is: will this decrease the price of the PS5, or, will Sony pocket the difference and charge for the addon.
Sosokrates
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Well, a disc drive could kinda defeat the purpose of these subsidised digital only models.
I thought the idea was to sell them at a loss and recoup the losses via digital purchases?
intheinbetween
Member
Why 400€ instead of 450€, the current MSRP in Europe, or even 500€ if they just release a single SKU?
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
But that one was released to battle with blueray for movies and it couldnt fit inside the regular xbox. I think its pointless to have an external drive for a day one digital console. Thast why we have external SSD for storage.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Could see this happening. Steam has more than 130 million monthly users even though its almost full digital.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
“Fuck consumer rights! As long as I can continue to Consoom that is all that matters!” You should have more respect for yourself.
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kyliethicc
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Yup. Haven’t bought a physical game since GTA5 on PS3. No point.
Sosokrates
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I wish there sony/Microsoft implemented a way were you could trade and sell digital games, they could take like 15% on every transaction or something. I guess it wont happen because publishers would get screwed or make less.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
1. reduce component size for the PS5, good for Sony on resource management to manufacture more PS5.
2. Gamers can pick the detachable disk drive if prefer physical games, and remove it if prefer for aesthetic purpose and digital games, only 1 model available in the market, less headache for whiners
3. Jimbo is a fucking genius.
2. Gamers can pick the detachable disk drive if prefer physical games, and remove it if prefer for aesthetic purpose and digital games, only 1 model available in the market, less headache for whiners
3. Jimbo is a fucking genius.
DenchDeckard
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My only hope, and one I think Sony will cover is that it doesn't have some unsightly clips or something exposed when the drive isn't attached to the unit. Apart from that I think it's genius.
Crazy to think Sony were all against digital start of last gen and pushed the "you own your disks can lend to a friend" narrative and they will be the first to strip a disk drive from all of their systems. It was inevitable I guess.
Crazy to think Sony were all against digital start of last gen and pushed the "you own your disks can lend to a friend" narrative and they will be the first to strip a disk drive from all of their systems. It was inevitable I guess.
kyliethicc
Member
Sony was never against selling digital games.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Oh absolutely, they were never against it but definitely championed the ownership is with you and your disk, you can lend to friends etc. Thats all I was implying.
kyliethicc
Member
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
One thing doesn't invalidate the other. They weren't against digital just because they were okay with people keeping, renting, lending their owned games
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Panajev2001a
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I really cannot fathom how much anything Sony does or is rumoured to do is taken in the worse than worst possible way to imply something even worse (who is saying they are moving their consoles to digital only? You are basically taking leaps of negativity in order to imply something which would make them guilty of doublespeak with their pre PS4 launch PR) and yet take Good Guy Phil constant speaking out of both sides of his mouth as it if were nothing
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Didn’t reports say PS5 original design is the digital one and disc drive was added later? I mean why would they be against digital when with physical they get less profit from sales and physical games going down in prices very quickly? They’ll absolutely celebrate if physical games die tomorrow as they limit you to their ridiculously price store.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I did miss type, I meant to put against digital rights that MS were pushing but it was first thing in the morning.
I admit defeat though, looks funny. I'll take the L.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
PS6 games will not be sold digital only since retailers will refuse to carry consoles if that’s the case + some places have still terrible internet with monthly data transfer limits.
RCU005
Member
I’ve seen much better deals on the PS Store than any physical in my country. That’s why I went digital, but there’s one or two games that do get cheaper physical and it would be nice to be able to just connect an add on.
Ironically, in my country is the Switch games that get much better discounts for physical games.
kyliethicc
Member
Just like how retailers refuse to sell iPhones because the App Store is digital only… wait
Just like how retailers refuse to sell Android phones because the Google Play store is digital only… wait
Just like how retailers refuse to sell PC hardware because PC gaming is digital only… wait
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
Completely different situations and you are missing the point.
iPhone - subsidised by carriers
Android - same thing
PC - PC gaming rigs do not have important store presence in majority of Western countries , also believe it or not in CEE large number of games are still sold in boxes
kyliethicc
Member
Amazon sells iPhones…
Walmart sells iPhones…
Target sells iPhones…
You have no idea WTF you’re talking about.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Phones are built with profit in mind. Hence their overpriced price tags.
PC parts too have a higher margin for retailer profit.
Consoles are usually sold at a loss, or just breaking even shortly after launch, with slim to no profit margins for the retailers, since the traditional promise is software sales and peripheral cuts. Now whether cards purchased to load into PSN/XBL accounts, etc, will offset physical sales, will remain to be seen. But I suspect that is still very low compared to people who just pop in their credit card or paypal accounts.
DEs are still only at a 10-15% clip of supply vs disc versions according to most estimates. If this redesign rumor is true, then I suspect we will see a bigger shift.
For the record, I have the DE version.
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kyliethicc
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Yeah I kinda doubt consoles in the longterm future will be sold for a loss. Small and only briefly, if at all. I could easily see a $600 PS6, especially since Nvidia just launched a $1200 4080 that used to be a $600-700 xx80 card. But who knows. I still think if PS6 games are sold physically it will be in limited quantities for higher prices than the “standard edition” or whatever.
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BlackTron
Gold Member
Smart idea in my opinion. Worth it to have one sku. Those who want to the disk drive can go get it, but it's not even totally necessary on day one. With a PS5 DE you committed to be locked out of physical forever, this lowers the barrier to entry without having to do that.
kyliethicc
Member
Exactly and because it’s digital by default not digital only, more people will buy it and realize they don’t even want the disc drive. Being given the option allows everyone to just buy the console and plenty will never bother buying the extra bit they hardly or never even use.
