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Tomb Raider |OT| Lara's Misfortune
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This almost never happens in this game. There are two areas on the entire island that you return to with gear that allows you to access areas you couldn't access before, and really only 2 items, well 3 if you count that secret tomb you can't access without the climbing axe.
I would say Tomb Raider 1-4 are good, but they are extremely slow and tiring by today's standards. Crystal Dynamic's Tomb Raiders are more actiony and guided like this game, but less so. People are upset because Tomb Raider has yet to be adequately updated for modern times, and this game is further from that than Crystal Dynamics' previous efforts. I'd say a frustrating thing about this game is that provides what I can see as an excellent base for updating Tomb Raider with modern gaming technology, but the base is buried deep in platforming and puzzles that require no skill and tiring combat. It's like Crystal Dynamics has no faith in the gamer to play the game in a way that highlights the experience they want to present. They want players to see what they've made and fear that if the player can fail they won't.
You've never had rocky road? Or Phish Food?
For real? I thought I noticed a few but that is really dire... I guess the last third of the game doesn't change much...
...but for the record, at least in the TR sequel, I hope they focus on making that happen a lot more (as well as changing platforming from worthless to challenging)
Y2Kev said:
Some of the hold-your-breath jumps in that game, from my hazy memory (it's my least played TR for some reason), were just shockingly tension-inducing when you got to the ledges.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
This post makes so much more sense than your last one.
The most annoying thing about Tomb Raider 4 is the areas that span multiple levels. This is most extremely illustrated by a puzzle that requires you to go to a small room in another level (loading screen) to push/pull a block into the right spot, then return to the previous area (loading screen) to push another block. It also suffers from theme fatigue. It's all Egyptian levels and there's only so much you can do with that. It was full of good ideas, but it was very plodding.
Wait, why won't there be another one??
And is there online co-op? Flying solo right now but I would love to try co-op if there's online.
the outside levels climbing the pyramids were so awesome though
holy shit you gave me a flashback of that shit
like i suddenly had a very vivid memory of that entire sequence
felt like I was being controlled by the Animus or some shit lol
SlasherJPC
Banned
Ohhh well Rocky Road yes, and it's my favorite ice cream!
I should have known. Well as for Tomb Raider, won't have time to play it much anymore till down the road... too many games on the release right now.BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I was just listening to Klepick on GB and he says that exact same thing. Its the kind of game that is a fun little diddy at times but when you step back and really think about it you realize it was kind of a empty experience.
I think it was Dahbomb who said its kind of like the Transformers equivalent in the videogame world and I think that is pretty spot on.
I can't remember anything about TR5 except for a level inside like a museum or facility or something.
I tried to replay the old games but man, they really aged poorly. The beginning Tomb Raider 3 level looks disgustingly bad, like 10 different terrible jungle textures jutting out at odd angles
e: just look at this
I tried to replay the old games but man, they really aged poorly. The beginning Tomb Raider 3 level looks disgustingly bad, like 10 different terrible jungle textures jutting out at odd angles
e: just look at this
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I like Mint Chocolate Chip
What kind of Tomb Raider does that make me
What kind of Tomb Raider does that make me
I can't remember anything about TR5 except for a level inside like a museum or facility or something.
I tried to replay the old games but man, they really aged poorly. The beginning Tomb Raider 3 level looks disgustingly bad, like 10 different terrible jungle textures jutting out at odd angles
e: just look at this
pfft that's just beanstalk world, get with the program
that makes you Tomb raider 5 apparently with the green jungle texture
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I can't remember anything about TR5 except for a level inside like a museum or facility or something.
I tried to replay the old games but man, they really aged poorly. The beginning Tomb Raider 3 level looks disgustingly bad, like 10 different terrible jungle textures jutting out at odd angles
e: just look at this
Gorgeous
Hahaha
CD said so, and yeah there is online, at least on the Steam version.
Gameplay
semiconscious
Member
got a lot more on some trade-ins than i'd expected to, & just bought this for $6
. &, yeah, very well said from what i've seen so far - used survival instinct once, realized it completely broke puzzle-solving, & will therefore never use it again. you're absolutely right. this game's designed to be idiot-proof ...Interesting topic (regarding Uncharted vs TR)
Several friends of mine have sung TR praises, over Uncharted. I however, am sticking to my guns that despite both following pretty generic gameplay elements, Uncharted feels more "tomb raider-ish" and hence, a better game than TR. But I suppose with anything, it depends on what you're looking for. And when I picked up TR, I was expecting to raid more than just a handful of one-puzzle tombs.
Lara's character progression was a thrill ride, though I'd happily exchange the action-packed-Hostel approach to more raiding of actual tombs.
Several friends of mine have sung TR praises, over Uncharted. I however, am sticking to my guns that despite both following pretty generic gameplay elements, Uncharted feels more "tomb raider-ish" and hence, a better game than TR. But I suppose with anything, it depends on what you're looking for. And when I picked up TR, I was expecting to raid more than just a handful of one-puzzle tombs.
Lara's character progression was a thrill ride, though I'd happily exchange the action-packed-Hostel approach to more raiding of actual tombs.
Tomb Raider 3 was my first Tomb Raider actually, so I do have fond memories of the desert and I remember flashes of the jungle, like there was a level with a broken plane and a river you had to cross and dinosaurs
I remember the game was brutally hard too, so many instakill moments
I remember the game was brutally hard too, so many instakill moments
I'm playing it for a second time, and I sort of feel the same way. I think it's a great game, and I'm glad I played it, but the game has very little longevity.
Frankly, when Bioshock Infinite comes out, I'll probably forget all about it, which is a bit of a shame really, because it's a very well made game.
If it came out last year, it would have easily been in my top 5, but with many great games coming out this year, I can't see it being in my list.
Well, one of the two areas is the final area of the game, which is probably the most amazing area thematically but they do little more with it in terms of gameplay than the rest of the game. The gear you return with only allows you to open 2 doors you couldn't before.
But hey, I like metroidvanias, and I think metroidvania gameplay would mesh well with Tomb Raider gameplay, but Tomb Raider was never a metroidvania... well, I guess Tomb Raider 4 sorta had metroidvania elements; there was this one puzzle that spanned multiple levels that involved upgrading your motorcycle with turbo so that you could clear a jump and get past a monster.
It really kinda was and you know, it's weird because I can't sense this shit as fast as you guys do. For me I absorb it all in and then release it all, like a big fucking fart, after completion.
The hype balloon swells up so fast, especially when youre first playing and especially when its a new game. But that deflation man... lol
Hopefully Infinite wont do this, but really, at this stage of the game and where the industry and gameplay and all that bullshit is at? Who the fuck knows.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
The hell happened in this thread over the last few pages?
The Documents for Mathias were great. And all the documents were really well voiced (and borderline creepy in some places, which I dug). But we don't get a lot of time with Mathias... which makes sense. He's not a bad villain, but he could have been a lot more. I did like this line with Lara near the end:
That would have been a very good idea.
What are you talking about? It did happen.
Vaas got fat.
The Documents for Mathias were great. And all the documents were really well voiced (and borderline creepy in some places, which I dug). But we don't get a lot of time with Mathias... which makes sense. He's not a bad villain, but he could have been a lot more. I did like this line with Lara near the end:
There are no heroes here, Lara... only survivors.
That would have been a very good idea.
What are you talking about? It did happen.
Vaas got fat.
I didn't bring up the Transformers analogy but I agree with it. This game is the equivalent of a summer pop corn flick.. which are usually loud and dumb but enjoyable nonetheless. Transformers is the quintessential movie to describe that popcorn entertainment. But there are still better popcorn movies than others. Like Uncharted 2 is the Indiana Jones of gaming but Tomb Raider is A Good Day to Die Hard.. starring a chick.
I agree with you, I just think that if the foundation of a TR is exploration, platforming and puzzles, metroidvania type structure can be great at facilitating quality versions of all three types of gameplay.
So if they wanted to majorly reboot the franchise, that would have been a great start
Dude come on. It's definitely better than Die Hard fucking Five.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
/agreed
Fate of Atlantis is the Indiana Jones of gaming
fuuuuuckkkkk yesssssss
Nah but it's better than the one where the internets get hacked.
XOMTOR
Member
I can't remember anything about TR5 except for a level inside like a museum or facility or something.
I tried to replay the old games but man, they really aged poorly. The beginning Tomb Raider 3 level looks disgustingly bad, like 10 different terrible jungle textures jutting out at odd angles
e: just look at this
Haha, yea I remember those textures. I also remember dying countless times trying to get the Ganesha key in the room with the moving spike wall. On PS1, I couldn't distinguish the key on the floor due to the poor textures and it being so damn dark. Had to resort to a guide which actually had the key circled in red. I really should pick up the PC versions on GOG. Anyone know how the textures are in those? Any of 'em been updated?
Phonomezer
Banned
Was Tomb Raider Legend the one which had Lara parading around skyscrapers in Asia? That was a dreadful part of an otherwise decent game if so.
Yes. That level had more platforming than this entire game though.
Your taste in everything is really special.
Walking around an ol' West town and shit. Tons of shootouts. It was the true beginning of the end for our beloved, since it meant after the momentarily positive note in Anniversary, things would still go downhill after Angel of Darkness
Square Triangle
Member
What is with the hidden trophy that relating to speaking with the crew members?
I got a better comparison
Indiana Jones is to OG Tomb Raider as King Solomon's Mines is to Tomb Raider reboot >
SlasherJPC
Banned
I got a better comparison
Indiana Jones is to OG Tomb Raider as King Solomon's Mines is to Tomb Raider reboot >
Youre too advanced. I dont know what King Solos Mines is.
Eh, I'd say it's closer to Alien Resurrection. Or maybe one of the AVP movies.
...you know what? It's Prometheus; a reboot/prequel that COMPLETELY misses the point with terrible characters and a confused plot. There are even a part where Lara tries to escape danger by running in a straight line away from an giant object of death that she could have avoided by dodging any other direction but back.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I am really hoping Infinite is something special. My gut is telling me it will be but I don't want to get burned this time so I am trying to go in with reasonable expectations.
Hey I didn't say the new Die Hard was good, just that TR is worse than it.
I got a better comparison
Indiana Jones is to OG Tomb Raider as King Solomon's Mines is to Tomb Raider reboot >
Don't even go there!