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Total War: Warhammer |OT| WAAAGHcraft 4
- Thread starter PeskyToaster
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Haha you watch him too?
I love the guys battle replay videos! Have been subbed to him since the game came out
Also, I have seen the light when it comes to "lightning strike".
Being able to fight one army after another instead of all three as reinforcements is SO strong.
Tell me about it. I completely ignored it on my first campaign, but later on it has become a must for all generals. Crushing 3 Dwarf armies from a pile of 5 using only Archaon's own army and then running away far enough to prevent retaliation was something else.
johancruijff
Banned
Beastmen are a horde faction right?
Not a fan sadly, but crushing them should ne fun
Not a fan sadly, but crushing them should ne fun
I haven't palyed them so i can't vouch them but since their "basic" stance is ambush and they can only raze will make their gameplay faster then any other horde faction to date.
So if you don't like horde factions because they are "slow" to build up then take a look at this new faction if you just don't enjoy watching the world burn then skip it entirely
ISee
Member
Overall they seem like a mix of orks and chaos.
-They don't build settlements and rely on sacking cities to generate money like chaos´. With two differences:
1.) You can't farm cities for xp or loot. Beastmen autodestroy a city after sacking.
2.) They go into hiding when encamping.
-You can summon a 'waaagh' (great horde) and you can 'tunnel' through terrain. Just like orks.
-The one new mechanic is Morrslieb the dark moon. Every couple of rounds you have to choose between four different bonuses. Those bonuses are rather strong but also have negative sideffects
For example:
90% recruitment cost, but -25 melee for all units
Heal all units, horde growth -20
+15% Weapon strength, +50 melee, -50% campaign movement speed.
johancruijff
Banned
oh i'll definitely try them, just saying that i prefer the non-horde factions
Chaos campaigns i played never became fun
so they're like a mix between chaos and orks
sounds good, i liked campaigns with greenskins
Ordinaryundone
Member
Orcs aren't really a horde, in the gameplay sense. They build cities and take territory like the Empire or Dwarves, they just have poor sources of income and generally can't do diplomacy well enough to secure trade so they make all their money from fighting and looting. Chaos and Beastmen don't have cities or territory; your army doubles as your "capitol" and has all your troop and tech buildings inside of it. This makes each army remarkably self-sufficient but means you have to keep moving to constantly have places to raid and loot to keep your income going and you never really have anywhere "safe" to fall back to.
johancruijff
Banned
downloading
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LurkerPrime
Member
It'll take 20 minutes to DL anyways, so I'll make a thread. Give me a bit.
Edit: Whoops, forgot to mention the thread is up now. Moo.
Edit: Whoops, forgot to mention the thread is up now. Moo.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Haha you watch him too?
I love the guys battle replay videos! Have been subbed to him since the game came out
Also, I have seen the light when it comes to "lightning strike".
Being able to fight one army after another instead of all three as reinforcements is SO strong.
It works every time.
johancruijff
Banned
details of the free DLC that comes even if you aren't purchasing Call of the Beastman
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Upcoming_Free_Content_Update
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Upcoming_Free_Content_Update
Yep,especially since they are always in ambush stance, meaning they can disrupt your well laid plans easily
lilojigsaw
Member
There is an unlockable
for those who beat the mini campaign. Just finished it.
legendary lord
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Who?
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Wood Elves is next I believe, with some free DLC sometime before, then it's Tomb Kings.
think DLC3 is a lord pack.
I did a 3 hour stream of the Beastmen campaign and being able to rename heroes and units is really cool for this, since I named them after people in the chat
So you'd have people go "How many kills did my unit get??" or "Oh no I am surrounded!!"
Really fun!
And the beastmen look great!
I was super surprised to see that Beastmen Chaos Spawn look different to normal Chaos Spawn. They have hooves and tails and stuff.
So you'd have people go "How many kills did my unit get??" or "Oh no I am surrounded!!"
Really fun!
And the beastmen look great!
I was super surprised to see that Beastmen Chaos Spawn look different to normal Chaos Spawn. They have hooves and tails and stuff.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I did a 3 hour stream of the Beastmen campaign and being able to rename heroes and units is really cool for this, since I named them after people in the chat
So you'd have people go "How many kills did my unit get??" or "Oh no I am surrounded!!"
Really fun!
And the beastmen look great!
I was super surprised to see that Beastmen Chaos Spawn look different to normal Chaos Spawn. They have hooves and tails and stuff.
They did the same thing with the Giant.
LurkerPrime
Member
IIRC it's almost certain that the next few DLCs are smaller stuff. In the leak, the faction DLCs were always a few entries apart.
Ah, that's awesome. I was kinda bummed about them being recycled from Chaos.
Y'know, Total Warhammer has very impressive battles overall. They manage to make giant units or powerful lords fit right in with the rabble. And the blood DLC adds... a surprising amount of weight to the battles.
I did a 3 hour stream of the Beastmen campaign and being able to rename heroes and units is really cool for this, since I named them after people in the chat
So you'd have people go "How many kills did my unit get??" or "Oh no I am surrounded!!"
Really fun!
And the beastmen look great!
I was super surprised to see that Beastmen Chaos Spawn look different to normal Chaos Spawn. They have hooves and tails and stuff.
Ah, that's awesome. I was kinda bummed about them being recycled from Chaos.
Y'know, Total Warhammer has very impressive battles overall. They manage to make giant units or powerful lords fit right in with the rabble. And the blood DLC adds... a surprising amount of weight to the battles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulSJQlS7B4
A little scene from my first time using Minotaurs yesterday
PeskyToaster
Member
The Minotaurs + Blood and Gore DLC explode people. They did a great job on the animations. I've been rolling up human lines all day.
Edit: ^ This dude gets it. The flanks are fucking devastating. Unit design is top notch, they look AMAZING.
Edit: ^ This dude gets it. The flanks are fucking devastating. Unit design is top notch, they look AMAZING.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Really enjoying the Beastmen. They look phenomenal, and its so much fun having an army of basically satan's goons.
Aztechnology
Member
I stayed up all night playing through the Beastmen Eye for an eye campaign. I'm just about to finish it. It got ridiculous as everyone allied against me so I'd have upwards of 7 or 8 armies chasing me around while I led them through atrophy areas on a wild goose chase then would pick them off. It's crazy how much money the AI seems to have (cheat as much as ever) even though I'd largely destroyed their settlements. At the end they had something like 15 agents a piece just constantly bugging my armies and multiple armies themselves, far more than I could sustain. Thankfully my guys are rank 30+ from all the battles early on. My assassin has 80+% chance to succeed pretty much every time. Even against level 18+ heroes.
But yea, intense on Very Hard. I long stopped fighting battles unless it reflects I may lose. I turned around quite a few battles that had me at a large disadvantage.
But yea, intense on Very Hard. I long stopped fighting battles unless it reflects I may lose. I turned around quite a few battles that had me at a large disadvantage.
PeskyToaster
Member
yeah I spent a couple minutes just zooming around my units. I can see how these types of DLC would be a little more work than traditional Total War DLC. They have to make all these pretty different units and stuff. I'm really happy about how unique each faction plays. Even the horde based ones of Chaos and Beastmen have these differences that open up different styles of play.
Edit: Yup. Unless you are like super outnumbered, you'll get tons better results by just playing out the battle.
Edit: Yup. Unless you are like super outnumbered, you'll get tons better results by just playing out the battle.
I'm having a lot of fun with the beastmen but in the eye canpaign the ai has a serious problem with army composition, worse than it has ever been. One army which the game said would smash me in auto resolve was made up of 4 mages of various lores, two captains and 4 lumiarks, as well as 3 other artillery. They only had about 3 spearmen as their normal forces. A lot of armies are made up of all cavalry as well which is a nightmare to deal with if you can't ambush them.
Anyone else have this or is it likely from one of my mods, I thought I got rid of any mods that affected unit composition.
Anyone else have this or is it likely from one of my mods, I thought I got rid of any mods that affected unit composition.
Aztechnology
Member
No there was some early battles where the enemy was composed nearly entirely of outsiders and such for me. I had only a small group of archers so I had to chase them to the extremities of the map. Late game the enemy seems to be like you said composed of many hero units and high cost cavalry and artillery type units. And it constantly puts me at a disadvantage so I have to fight it out because it's just silly.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulSJQlS7B4
A little scene from my first time using Minotaurs yesterday
Glorious.
Has anyone had problems with the game not allowing you to continue after cutscenes, specifically when Archaon appears around turn 110? I get the video, then the camera focusing on the two Chaos armies whilst the advisor gives his little "the end is nigh" speech, but I can't close the dialogue, or continue moving armies/end turn etc.
Aztechnology
Member
So uhhh. I didn't see that I had to make a confederation with two Beastmen tribes and I've wiped the map completely clean. There was one tribe left and I made a confederation with them, but there's nothing left. Will one eventually appear?
What do? I'm just circling the map.
What do? I'm just circling the map.
Aztechnology
Member
Yea I won a while back, but I want that Ultimate Victory. Can I cause infighting and spawn another faction?
I don't think so!
Aztechnology
Member
Awwww. That sucks. Well time for a Grand Campaign starting in the south and wiping out some Orcz. Greenskin bowling time!
Apparently I unlocked Boris Todbringer for something, but I don't know what. I could have sworn it said Grand Campaign, but it won't let me use him when I select empire so I guess not.
I think you unlock his skin? I am not sure.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
It's a separate lord.
Aztechnology
Member
Oh is it just an added recruit-able lord during an Empire Campaign? That would make sense.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Just for multiplayer and custom matches.
Lord Phol
Member
Hm, you are correct. Perhaps orcs are the ones I should be trying next (Chaos really doesn't do anything for me), thought I do prefer the races with more diplomacy options. I will probably skip Beastmen for now (though they do look neat) and wait for Wood Elves. I imagine they'll also be somewhat ambush focused but less horde-like and more diplomacy viable.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Wow they really charging $15 + for a new faction? And locking chaos behind first week buyers was bad enough.
Chaos costs 8$. It's just a faction.
Beastmen cost 15$+ because they also have a campaign specifically for them.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Any other total war game i'd be right there with you, but for the first time each faction feels completely unique, and have their own mechanics rather than just lazy reskins of existing units. I'll probably end up grabbing everything they put out. Haven't had this much fun in a Total War game since Shogun 2.