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[jts]

I think we're so fast saying or implying that a man is not a man if he has some traditionally feminine traits, and then if he full assumes it and goes the extra mile to say he's not a man we're forced to call him a man just to be contrarian and owners of word semantics? I always try to not get hung on semantics. If the person wants to be identified as a woman I'll respect that if the person is worthy of respect. And just because I think it's ok to call that person a woman it doesn't mean it's a woman I find attractive or would ever be in a relationship with. There are many kinds of woman I wouldn't either. Being a natty woman is just an essencial factor for me.

I agree with the sports part, because the fair spirit of the competition must be preserved. There is no point in competing if someone has a huge advantage through genetics that don't much their lawful or self identifying gender, so as far as sports go the eligibility should be related to the born-gender only. It's a matter of rules. Can't be US president if not born in the USA either.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Are Rowling's tweets still up or were they taken down? I don't eve know exactly what she said

 

[oagboghi2]

So i encourage everyone to start making threads like, I like peanut butter or daisies are pretty cool. Who cares? Maybe I am wrong in thinking most threads should be thought provoking or informative. Or even an attempt to start a discussion.. this was not that.

Have you seen the threads here?

If you don't think a thread op is "informative" enough, scroll on by. You decided to stop here and post.

 

[Jooxed]

Have you seen the threads here?

If you don't think a thread op is "informative" enough, scroll on by. You decided to stop here and post.

You do have a point there.

 

[Stouffers]

O oagboghi2 is the thread-police police. If he doesn’t like our responses to the thread, he should just scroll on by.

 

[godhandiscen]

I believe that transgendered women are free to adopt the sexual identity that makes them happy, the same way any other individual can adopt any other sexual identity.

JK Rowling is free to express her opinion too and she should, nevertheless she or anybody else should never define how a person lives their life. She isn’t trying to do that afaik.
I don’t agree with JK, but I won’t boycott Harry Potter over that shit. I boycotted Harry Potter because it sucks. However, if JK makes content I enjoy, I won’t use my morals to make a decision on whether I like it or now. I’ll use my taste.

OP, you are entitled to your opinion. I am not sure a whole thread was needed, but I put mine here too.

Are Rowling's tweets still up or were they taken down? I don't eve know exactly what she said

Does it matter what she said? We pay way too much attention to what content creators believe in nowadays. Their voices are only as powerful as we make them out to be.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Does it matter what she said? We pay way too much attention to what content creators believe in nowadays. Their voices are only as powerful as we make them out to be.

It would matter in the context of the thread, since that is supposedly what this thread is about.

I never said her voice is powerful or not. Just would be good to know what was referenced.

 

[Shadowplay1979]

I'm too exhausted over all of it to write another long post, but yeah...trans women are trans women. Most transgender women are in agreement with this...such as myself.

However, the word "transgender" is starting to become something other than it used to be. There is a large push from people without in-born sexual differentiation or even any form of medically diagnosed gender dysphoria co-opting what it means to be transgender. People like myself who have suffered gender dysphoria are having our voices silenced by these people. These are the people who may use a strange alternate pronouns like zir/zim, etc...or even people with a romanticized/fetishized view. They seem to want societal views of sex/gender to blur completely.

All it's doing is destroying any goodwill that trans people have gained over the past several years. People once again associate the "T" in LGBT+ as delusional, crazy, and people to be mocked.

I wish I was not transgender, but it is a biological medical condition that I was born with, having been prenatally exposed to Diethylstilbestrol. I have learned to live with it, and the last thing I want to do is disrupt society in any way. Most of us only wish to blend in and cause no waves...but we are slowly being pushed out of our own "community." It's extremely exhausting.

At this point it may be easier to write a stock response you can cut and paste for the future.

also i totally read that as "after being penally exposed to Diethyetcetcetc" at first glance

 

[godhandiscen]

It would matter in the context of the thread, since that is supposedly what this thread is about.

Got it. Yes it would satisfy curiosity, but in the great scheme of things, she is just one voice like any other. The followers of that voice are the ones who should re-evaluate themselves.

 

[Halo is Back]

I just refer to them as transgender since that is the safest route. I don't give a fuck what you do to you body, if it doesn't hurt anyone else then Im a ok with it.

 

[Coily]

Women have waited tens of thousands of years to get equal treatment under the law and society.
From work, education, voting rights and stuff.

It's normal for a 20th Century feminist to get peeved seeing Transformers jump over the queue

 

[LordKasual]

Im here over JK Rowling alegations that says she is a trans-hater

Let me tell you this

You can change your genitals with surgery but you cant change your XY genetics...the way your body built....your muscles..hips....broad chest..shoulder....its all built as man...

Change my mind if you disagree with this..

Ask yourself this...

If you trully admit transgender as female then will you marry one of them as lover?

Why do you care?

Are you into transgender women?

 

[marianus]

Why do you care?

Are you into transgender women?

Who isn't?

 

[LoV]

I just refer to them as transgender since that is the safest route. I don't give a fuck what you do to you body, if it doesn't hurt anyone else then Im a ok with it.

It does matter when people involve children.

 

[Foamy]

That's what happens when folks can "just ask questions" and express a range of beliefs without getting dogpile by zealots and summarily banned

THIS.

 

[Stouffers]

It does matter when people involve children.

Yea, THATS where it gets really complicated

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

People should be free to alter themselves or identify how they choose, without repercussions. There are limits to that IMO e.g. transgender should have their own events separate to men and women. There is nothing scientifically fair about a man transitioning to compete against women in sports. Like all things there is a grey area on some aspects to how things work out. The labelling, disrespect and lack of understanding goes both ways.

 

[kretos]

Thanks for the clarification

 

[YCoCg]

It's normal for a 20th Century feminist to get peeved seeing Transformers jump over the queue

...this created a really funny image in my mind

 

[Falcs]

All it's doing is destroying any goodwill that trans people have gained over the past several years. People once again associate the "T" in LGBT+ as delusional, crazy, and people to be mocked.

The frustrating thing is that it's not even trans people who are to blame for this. It's stupid, fucking woke idiots who feel the desperate need to virtue signal (perfect example is ResetEra) who go around shoving their ideology into everything, that it frustrates everyone else and the end result is exactly what you have described.

Ailynn , I guarantee you most of these woke people online who claim to stand for trans rights would try to cancel you simply because your opinion doesn't fit into their ideology, and thus you don't allow them the chance to virtue signal for you.

This is the reason why I absolutely despise woke fucking cunts. They will use you, and others like you, along with blacks, gays, women, "minorities", "people of colour", whatever the fuck term they choose, to drive their narrative that these groups of people are being heavily oppressed and are in need of a saviour (them), thus they will virtue signal at every opportunity they can to try to make themselves look good. They don't give a shit about you or any of the people in these groups who they so heavily try to fight for.

All those non-black woke cunts out there protesting for Black Lives Matter can all go and fuck right off. They don't give a shit about black people. They're only out there because this is a fantastic opportunity for woke points. Exactly the reason why all these entertainment companies are make these bullshit twitter statements in support of black people when all they care about is $$$.

 

[synchronicity]

As long as people are not harming others, let them define themselves however they choose. Everyone is just trying to meet their needs they best way they know how, whether or not they understand how to do so. I offer compassion before judgment. Let's assume the best of each other and then maybe we'll get the best from each other.

 

[MetalAlien]

 

[Stouffers]

Baked potato or veggie-hamburger soup for dinner?

 

[Joyful]

feel like this thread should be in politics section imo

 

[Kev Kev]

Baked potato or veggie-hamburger soup for dinner?

 

[captainraincoat]

I think people are ok to have their opinions on this and an important part of bringing everyone to an understanding is an actual discussion

Everyone has their own experiences and you can’t just excuse or ban everything that does not comply with your views as you would never learn or better yourself and would just be stuck in a hole of misery....like most of reeee

 

[Xaero Gravity]

O oagboghi2 is the thread-police police. If he doesn’t like our responses to the thread, he should just scroll on by.

Officer Doofy has a history of doing that.

 

[OverHeat]

To me you will always be the gender you are born with.

 

[Zog]

Women athletes who spend their lives training only to have to compete against men?

Sometimes they don't want equality.

 

[EverydayBeast]

"Transgender are not women"

 

[Evil Calvin]

Im here over JK Rowling alegations that says she is a trans-hater

Let me tell you this

You can change your genitals with surgery but you cant change your XY genetics...the way your body built....your muscles..hips....broad chest..shoulder....its all built as man...

Change my mind if you disagree with this..

Ask yourself this...

If you trully admit transgender as female then will you marry one of them as lover?

Yep. It's basically the person dressing up to be a woman, except with surgery, makeup and drugs. Doesn't change the fact the person has male DNA. No matter what that person is a male. That is why I hate when people say stuff like 'oh, she is sooo brave!!' (Caitlyn Jenner).

 

[Mister Wolf]

I only go by biology. If your DNA states that you are a male or female then that's what I'm referring to you as.

 

[Spukc]

What’s the point of this thread?

have replies on it like yours

 

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[Mistake]

Ailynn I would just keep something on copy/paste. Don't exert yourself so much.

hopefully these things calm down more after this year

 

[Stouffers]

Ailynn I would just keep something on copy/paste. Don't exert yourself so much.

hopefully these things calm down more after this year

What’s going to happen in the next year? If a pandemic and race war can’t take people’s minds off transgenders, what will?.

It’s going to take time. I foresee 10+ years before all the hullabaloo is just easily ignorable white-noise.

 

[iconmaster]

 

[NeoGiffer]

JK Rowling statement

 

[Max_Po]

is this the same as that fighter Fallen fox, who transformed and beat up girls viciously ?

 

[p_xavier]

Good read and finally a non-apologist.

 

[Mistake]

What’s going to happen in the next year? If a pandemic and race war can’t take people’s minds off transgenders, what will?.

It’s going to take time. I foresee 10+ years before all the hullabaloo is just easily ignorable white-noise.

I'm hoping after the election some people learn how to take the L and things roll over. But who knows, you may be right

 

[Mossybrew]

JK Rowling statement

Thanks for the link. You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to say that these are the words of a HATEFUL BIGOT, but a glance at the REEE thead reveals everyone parroting that cult-approved mantra.

 

[belmarduk]

This.. is not a major concern for most of the LGBT community.

It is however very inconvenient for rubbish transvestites on ResetERA who are annoyed that police murders of black people are taking attention from them.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I don't give a shit if a person wants to identify as anything. It has no bearing whatsoever on my life. I only start to care when it requires MY involvement. If YOU as a trans-gendered person need ME to validate your existence, that's your problem. I don't need anyone to validate mine, so don't expect me to validate yours. I'm of the opinion of let people be who they want, don't fuck with me, I won't fuck with you. As a person that lived in the Bay Area for YEARS, it was exhausting dealing with the LGBTQ community, because I have no opinion of people based solely on their community/color/sexuality. But I did notice that most people that were LGBTQ that had some sort of activist bone going through them shrieked and cried victim louder and more frequently than any other and it got to the point where I just started tuning those people out. Where as all my gay friends would just tell me to stay away from those people because they give their community a bad look. Every person that I've spent any meaningful amount of time of the LGBTQ community that aren't on some crusade, are just normal fucking people. It doesn't need to be a big thing, but some screechers love making a mountain of a mole hill.

 

[Goro Majima]

I always thought it was weird that it's taboo to point out that the venn diagram of issues between MtF trans individuals and cis women isn't just a circle. There's a gigantic block of reproductive and child bearing issues that simply don't apply across the board.

 

[Ailynn]

JK Rowling statement

Those hateful comments thrown at J.K. Rowling are vile and embarrassingly reprehensible.

Where did she ever say anything hateful? I can see the first post from her possibly being upsetting to transgender men that are early into transition with testosterone, but much of what she says otherwise sounds supportive of transgender women and men alike.

 

[IntentionalPun]

If someone wants to be called a woman I'll call them a woman and visa-versa.

It's interesting how this topic is always framed as being angry at trans women and never about trans men.

 

[GametimeUK]

I'm in the camp where if you were born with a dick you're a man, born with a pussy you're a woman. You know basic biology? It's not that hard to grasp. However, I wouldn't be a dick to somebody who is trans, but when it comes to general public speak like JK Rowling she is absolutely right. I honestly can't believe she is seen as controversial.

If you want to (or feel like you need to) express yourself as the opposite sex then more power to you and you're free to do it and I applaud you for doing what's best for you, but nobody has to believe you are the opposite sex and they aren't transphobic for using basic biology to identify someone.

I think people are at 2 polar opposite sides of the debate with no room to compromise in the middle.

 

[Ceallach]

I'll be honest, I get pretty disheartened when I think I am talking to a Cis woman and it turns out to be a trans woman. it's kinda fucked on my end, I know, but like it just seems there are so few enthusiasts who are like naturally born women, so like we don't really have those shared experiences and it is a different kind of thing. Everytime I talk to a woman and find out there are trans I feel a bit more isolated. Idk why the gamer and tech community has so many trans women in it.

I'm aware this all sounds so transphobic on my end. I don't wish any ill will or have any issues with trans women, but there is a difference, I'm not going to connect with a trans woman on the same level I am a cis woman. We have totally different life experiences.

 

[oagboghi2]

If someone wants to be called a woman I'll call them a woman and visa-versa.

It's interesting how this topic is always framed as being angry at trans women and never about trans men.

Probably because trans men don't go on Twitter and wish death on anyone who disagrees with then