Angelus Errare
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Did you think this when conservative media constantly harped on the costs of Obama and his family's vacation costs? Was that also unfair?
Read what he was responding to.
Did you think this when conservative media constantly harped on the costs of Obama and his family's vacation costs? Was that also unfair?
Wait, you think he actually spent 85 million dollars on clothes, snow globes and refrigerator magnets?Obama spent $85 million on vacations. At this rate Trump will surpass him in year one!
And before others ask, I think the Obama's spent too much money on vacations, yes even over 8 years.
Funneling taxpayer money to his businesses, monetising the role of the President, paying for access... please tell me, Americans - how is this even legal? This is corruption, plain as day.
No, but I think $10 million a year in tax payer money is excessive, but that's me.
Dude only ever wanted to be president so he could win a contest.
"This is fine."
He is from hawaii, do you not expect him to visit family ever?No, but I think $10 million a year in tax payer money is excessive, but that's me.
Wouldn't it be easier to bring his family over?He is from hawaii, do you not expect him to visit family ever?
Considering he's holding meetings in the middle of the fucking club within sight and earshot of all his patrons?What's the possibility that Mar-A-Lago is less leaky than the Whitehouse? Is it a case where he feels he has more control than he does when he's in DC?
So it is okay to never visit where he grew up?Wouldn't it be easier to bring his family over?
He is from hawaii, do you not expect him to visit family ever?
He visited there every year and that is understandable. That is his home.
Wait, you think he actually spent 85 million dollars on clothes, snow globes and refrigerator magnets?
Bush of the Bush dynasty has sizeable property that could house security while Obama did not.
I for one am shocked, it's almost as if one came from money and the other didn't.
I didn't say never and I didn't say he should bring family and friends every year.So it is okay to never visit where he grew up?
You expect him to bring family and friends to the usa every year?
Bush could have bought a farm close to the white house and visit there also and save money but it is not the same.
It just struck me that American tax payers could very well be paying half a billion dollars just for the travelling expenses of a "billionaire" family even if Trump is only a one term president. Everything I ever read about American Democracy as a child in middle and high school was a joke. We're one giant joke of a country.
fuck
Am I really being attacked for this?
Yes, a reasonable person could infer from my post that I expected him to go 8 years without going to Hawaii.
No he didn't spend $85 million on crap. But he apparently did spend time at some resorts where it's estimated to be $5-10,000 a night and that's before you add the secret service cost in (which I'm sure stayed at other local hotels). Just seeing the number seems high to me. You don't think it seems high, I do, that's the end of it.
It's the family travel expenses, so I guess his kids have been getting around?How is flying to florida three times $9 million, but Obama spent $10 million a year on travel. That doesn't add up. How in the world did he get places
Am I really being attacked for this?
Yes, a reasonable person could infer from my post that I expected him to go 8 years without going to Hawaii.
No he didn't spend $85 million on crap. But he apparently did spend time at some resorts where it's estimated to be $5-10,000 a night and that's before you add the secret service cost in (which I'm sure stayed at other local hotels). Just seeing the number seems high to me. You don't think it seems high, I do, that's the end of it.
I didn't say never and I didn't say he should bring family and friends every year.
If he wanted to go and could, fine, but many people who maybe payed for those taxes can't, and leaders should be more considerate to those people, since it's not like he is spending his own salary.
I'm not attacking Obama or anything, or comparing him to others, I'm just making a general statement. Just so happened to be relative to yearly family trips to Hawaii.
http://www.ntu.org/foundation/detail/presidential-travel-costs-to-taxpayers-april-snapshot
That seems comparable to other presidents and that includes his trips to Hawaii. Clinton and Bush have less reason to make more trips.
Really makes you wonder how the other candidate could manage to fuck up so bad.
Because the White House is not worthy of such meetings.It's a job and he's on a business trip. Finance should pay all the expenses.
It's a job and he's on a business trip. Finance should pay all the expenses.
It's a job and he's on a business trip. Finance should pay all the expenses.
Well if Obama is spending $10 million a year, Trump is on pace to shatter that number by the end of the month.Am I really being attacked for this?
Yes, a reasonable person could infer from my post that I expected him to go 8 years without going to Hawaii.
No he didn't spend $85 million on crap. But he apparently did spend time at some resorts where it's estimated to be $5-10,000 a night and that's before you add the secret service cost in (which I'm sure stayed at other local hotels). Just seeing the number seems high to me. You don't think it seems high, I do, that's the end of it.
I've seen Marvel meetings based entirely around choosing approved artwork for upcoming bus placards that have exponentially tighter security and vetting constraints than that shameful dinner hall discussion about national security.
Trump got a nice ego boost showing off his luxurious dinner at his exclusive club with the PM of Japan though! Money well spent!
Didn't Obama golf like 90% of his presidency?
Am I really being attacked for this?
Yes, a reasonable person could infer from my post that I expected him to go 8 years without going to Hawaii.
No he didn't spend $85 million on crap. But he apparently did spend time at some resorts where it's estimated to be $5-10,000 a night and that's before you add the secret service cost in (which I'm sure stayed at other local hotels). Just seeing the number seems high to me. You don't think it seems high, I do, that's the end of it.