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Trumpcare (Obamacare repeal) may be law within days. This could be the final stand
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timetokill
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I kind of wish I lived in a state where me calling my senator would make a difference, but I live on the best coast and my senator is already against this nonsense.
Even then their GOP darlings they keep voting in due to fear-mongering will tell them it's *insert Democrats, minority or other hot button issue here*'s fault.
Cow Mengde
Banned
This. Focus on the harm it'll do to the people who voted Trump.
SolarPowered
Member
The weak will die and the strong will live. It sounds like an alt-righter's wet dream until we see that it affects Trump supporting states quite a bit more than Hillary supporting states.
And they'll blame the Democrats since it won't affect anyone for a few years.
Truly evil shit they're doing. It's par for the course, though.
SmackAttack
Member
I'm going to be absolutely FUCKED by this but I'm going to be compassionate and wish you actually somehow benefit from this. People like you have my pity. To be so completely selfish and not even slightly care about anyone else means something is missing from your life and I really hope you find that happiness one day. I really do because, unlike you, I want best for my fellow man.
Most likely just for show. It's too big of a risk to trust any Republican on this.
this is bad shit
You say that like these people operate on any kind of moral principles and won't immediately be intimidated, bought off, or otherwise neutralized.
It's done. We're in a death spiral.
Fancyarcher
Member
A lot of them won't be around for that to happen. Plus the GOP currently has the house, the blame falls entirely on them for now. Good or bad, people will respond when they're feeling threatened is all I'm saying.
Yes, but it's the GOP who signed the bill. So while the delusional will blame the dems as usual, I doubt the GOP will get a welcomed response either.
For diablos it's fine so long as he still gets his even a little bit.
You underestimate how much impact right-wing fearmongering/their attack on the education system to make unquestioning masses has.
plagiarize
Banned
Never underestimate their ability to fall in line.
There were way more than 4 GOP reps in the house against that bill who ultimately voted for it.
UberTag
Member
In lieu of getting angry, a mass emigration to California should be the path for anyone at the mercy of this terrible Republican endeavor. Sitting on your hands and not looking to leave for a better state won't make the health insurance you once had that will now be lining the pockets of an already wealthy CEO come back.
The fact that it's going to a vote means the Turtle has his numbers. The ACA is dead.
That would be an EEG and the lump was your cerebellum.
And then anyone who disagrees with them will suddenly be "weak." Yeah, we know how it goes down.
Yeah, right. That'll be the day.
Slackerish
Member
At the time of voting for this bill. Do you really trust Cruz, Rand, etc to vote no?
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
It doesn't matter if they are effected by it or not, all they need to be told is you are better than that brown person over there. They will be given a boogeyman or scapegoat and continue to vote against their own self interest, they have been doing it for a long time. Why do you think this is going to be the thing that changes their mind?
Why not? It rewarded him so far.
You can still ask your senators to obstruct the bill at all costs:
https://www.indivisibleguide.com/resource/withholding-consent-filibuster-amendment-call-script/
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
It would be a good counter to representatives who claim that guaranteed emergency care is all you really need.
Haha, that is a good burn.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Exactly. I'd be real nervous if I were the GOP members voting on this. Take away coverage from someone with a treatable illness who is now terminal? Suddenly you might find yourself facing someone with nothing to lose.
STOP! You can only make republicans so erect!
Har-har. I didn't mean in that sense. And even in that sense, it's highly questionable it even has.
Psychoward
Banned
If you think this is the route to single payer you are sorely mistaken.
Guys, I have bad news for you- Protesting does jack shit.
Dems don't vote. Repubs do. Case closed, good luck to those affected.
Autodidact
Banned
Never forget that you're dealing with dumb, myopic people. These Republicans are scared shitless of being primaried next year. They haven't thought about the 2018 general elections are beyond yet. In their minds, failing to repeal will be worse for them than producing a bad bill.
Why would they start caring about their own interests now? They didn't when they voted these people in.
Nobody's getting primaried and there is no hope of any kind.
Fancyarcher
Member
Maybe, but I don't think all of them are lost brainwashed causes, in fact I'm sure some of them will have an awakening when the bill actually starts happening is what I'm predicting. Not all, just some. Hope I'm not wrong, but who knows. Still horrible regardless.
Let's hope you never lose that job of yours champ
Wolfe
Member
Classic victim blaming ;p
Honestly I hadn't seen the dude around for quite a while so I rightfully forgot about him, was hoping he just disappeared, oh well. In the end you can't expect everyone to put him on ignore, just as you can't expect people to not respond to an incredibly selfish post like that regardless of if it's an attempt at trolling or not.
As for the OP, I hope this shit fails like that last one, amazes me (although it prolly shouldn't) how bad greed has fucked up our government. And for anyone that said calling reps is a waste, naw, blow those voicemail boxes up.
SanguineShark
Member
You're right, I'll add him to ignore. He's a terrible person but he doesn't seem to understand or care that he is.
I hope for everyone's sake, this doesn't come to fruition.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Yep. Careful though you are going to be called a defeatist. It's fucking reality, though. Dems are snowflakes and if they don't get the Unicorn that they specifically wanted they won't vote. Republicans get behind their man, they get behind their party and like it or not they PUSH through their legislation.
How long did it take us to get HC? They are going to repeal and replace it in less than six months in power.
That will literally be the day. People will say, how did things get this bad? No one could have predicted...
DontBeThatGuy
Member
meh, i hope he loses everything. *fingerscrossed*
Most of the bill doesn't go into effect for years anyway.
They'll have time to say they passed a new law despite the odds, look like actual lawmakers, and the map will be redrawn in 2020 before people realize that they're getting fucked.
Wealthy Americans laugh all the way to the bank.
Jobs won't help, employers will just stop offering insurance at all and leave people to spend massive amounts of money on plans that don't cover anything. We're all just going to die of preventable causes in extremely short order.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I'm talking about the GOP senators voting on the bill not the average braindead republican voter.
EDIT: Sheesh, that flew right over my head. To what you were actually implying with your post: You do realize the majority of the people who will suffer from his law didn't vote these shitbags into office, right?
Basically this. Their plan is to shift blame on Democrats if feasible so they can be in power again. Or draw up maps to more or less ensure their power regardless of how much the masses don't want them. And the masses already didn't vote for them anyway.
BronsonLee
Member
Saying that it kicks in after 2020 just screams 'fuck it, we'll let them scramble to change it after they take office again'
Because the bill wont be in effect in 2018, I doubt GOP is concerned with the health consequences of it passing but are terrified of laser precision primary targeting if they don't step up and finally kill obamacare. I really don't see any way this doesn't pass. GOP will the kick repercussions down the road if it gets them through another midterm, power is the greatest currency.
As a Canadian who lurks a lot of the Political threads here, I am confused how people went from laughing at Trump's failure to kill Obamacare a few months back to this. If the Republicans basically have infinite retries to get their healthcare reforms through, why were many people so confident a few months back?
That's because none of the decision makers involved give a shit about the people they represent. To think that calling anyone is going to help stop this is foolish.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Fuck no, I ain't leaving even if I could afford it. Fuckers aren't pushing me out.
You had a solid block who were like nah no chance this is gonna get passed the Senate, but you also had a good solid chunk who didn't want to argue about the obvious or get called defeatist again. You think the GOP is going to pass this through the House and then give up? You guys are delusional. This will be law, period.
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