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Tune in tomorrow for a PlayStation 5 Technical Presentation hosted by Mark Cerny

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Topher

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Justin9mm said:
LOL.. I just did the same thing here in Australia.

In my mind, it makes perfect sense for them to mass produce one version of the Pro without a disc drive and design it around the already produced slim disc drive and utilise that.. It's just business 101. I would be surprised if they didn't.
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Yeah, and there would be significant backlash too.

But you are right. This make perfect sense.

Now I'm worried.
 
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MaKTaiL said:
That's what I'm most excited about. However I think it will already born outdated since I bet it won't include any frame generation solution which is the new fun tech.

Imagine how awesome it would be if they provided a native frame gen solution for old PS4 titles still playing at 30fps? Or even allow us to play 60fps PS4 titles at 120fps. Bloodborne at 60fps with no need for patches whatsoever.
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Yeah, I been saying the same thing for months. If they announced that, then I would go from no interest at all to day one purchase. There are so many great PS4 games out there still stuck at 30fps and sometimes worse.
 
kazuyamishima

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I did my usual trade-ins with the usual 50% Extra Credit Birthday Voucher at EB Games 2 days ago, I left about $1600 on the pre order of Metroid Prime 4, which has a pre-order price of $9999.

So, i'm fuking ready!!!!
 
RCU005

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K' Dash said:
I didn't want to spend an extra $600 this christmas to play PS4 games :(
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I don't understand why nobody realizes this!!!! While there have been great games this generation (99% coming from third party), ALL games have been nothing but PS4 games. There hasn't been ONE game that truly looks, plays, feels and is designed as a PS5 ONLY game.

During the PS3 gen, many games were jaw-dropping: MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, The Last of Us, etc.
During the PS4 gen they had Uncharted 4, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, TLOUS Part II, Spider-Man (among many others).

All these games were truly current gen and unthinkable about running in last gen hardware.

During PS5 there hasn't been ONE game that you look or play and say: This is truly new! Whether graphics, design, gameplay. Every single game INCLUDING THIRD PARTY, have been games that either are still released on PS4, or are still designed as PS4 games.

Those designs are evident. Remember those anime-like games that release on each console and still feel like PS2 games? (Like Neptunia and stuff like that). Every single game this gen, still feel like a better-looking PS4 game.

Do people really want to pay $600 or $700 just so their PS4-designed game runs at 60fps at 4K? Everybody loved Super Mario 64, but even if you run it at 240fps/8K is still an N64 game. This is what the PS5 Pro feels like right now.
 
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fersnake

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fucking yeah, i was waiting for this.


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Kdad

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Dorfdad said:
right with you man, but you forgot the new 5090 that will be showing up
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Well...the GPU is for my son...best he's getting out of me is the XTX lol...if he wants to chip in the difference fine...but that is money he wouldn't be using to pay down the car loan I gave him :p
 
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Mr.Phoenix

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RCU005 said:
I don't understand why nobody realizes this!!!! While there have been great games this generation (99% coming from third party), ALL games have been nothing but PS4 games. There hasn't been ONE game that truly looks, plays, feels and is designed as a PS5 ONLY game.

During the PS3 gen, many games were jaw-dropping: MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, The Last of Us, etc.
During the PS4 gen they had Uncharted 4, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, TLOUS Part II, Spider-Man (among many others).

All these games were truly current gen and unthinkable about running in last gen hardware.

During PS5 there hasn't been ONE game that you look or play and say: This is truly new! Whether graphics, design, gameplay. Every single game INCLUDING THIRD PARTY, have been games that either are still released on PS4, or are still designed as PS4 games.

Those designs are evident. Remember those anime-like games that release on each console and still feel like PS2 games? (Like Neptunia and stuff like that). Every single game this gen, still feel like a better-looking PS4 game.

Do people really want to pay $600 or $700 just so their PS4-designed game runs at 60fps at 4K? Everybody loved Super Mario 64, but even if you run it at 240fps/8K is still an N64 game. This is what the PS5 Pro feels like right now.
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What do you game on?
 
Hrk69

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RCU005 said:
I don't understand why nobody realizes this!!!! While there have been great games this generation (99% coming from third party), ALL games have been nothing but PS4 games. There hasn't been ONE game that truly looks, plays, feels and is designed as a PS5 ONLY game.

During the PS3 gen, many games were jaw-dropping: MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, The Last of Us, etc.
During the PS4 gen they had Uncharted 4, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, TLOUS Part II, Spider-Man (among many others).

All these games were truly current gen and unthinkable about running in last gen hardware.

During PS5 there hasn't been ONE game that you look or play and say: This is truly new! Whether graphics, design, gameplay. Every single game INCLUDING THIRD PARTY, have been games that either are still released on PS4, or are still designed as PS4 games.

Those designs are evident. Remember those anime-like games that release on each console and still feel like PS2 games? (Like Neptunia and stuff like that). Every single game this gen, still feel like a better-looking PS4 game.

Do people really want to pay $600 or $700 just so their PS4-designed game runs at 60fps at 4K? Everybody loved Super Mario 64, but even if you run it at 240fps/8K is still an N64 game. This is what the PS5 Pro feels like right now.
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Stu_Hart

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Let's be honest...the guy is just going to talk a bunch of technical stuff and why it benefits the developers. People want reasons to buy it. The sony exclusives released so far on ps5 have been well optimised to run well on base ps5. Major 3rd party games for the most part, have been well optimised as well. What do I need a pro for?
 
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MALpractice311 said:
Yeah, I been saying the same thing for months. If they announced that, then I would go from no interest at all to day one purchase. There are so many great PS4 games out there still stuck at 30fps and sometimes worse.
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This is what it needs to have. Would totally justify the need for one and would finally close the BC gap witg PC. The sad thing is it wont happen because we can't ever seem to have nice things on console with these walled gardens MS and Sony have. Automatic resolution and FPS boosts with no patch required.

My biggest disappointment this gen is how many great ps4/xbox one games are stuck at 30 fps and crappy resolutions.
 
Frwrd

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diffusionx said:
Short presentation + write up in DF is my guess. Same stuff as last time. This is a product for the nerds and will be presented as such.
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Wait ...are you implying that us nerds don't last long and 9 minutes is more than enough!?

...yo' we got a snitch in our group!!!!
 
LavitzSlambert

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
I am not good at making those type of threads.

I only got this one up because was given a heads up this news was coming so I wanted to be first for once at actual breaking news :)
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I hear that, it's hard to compete with the Thighs. You def earned this one though, kudos! Watching the saga unfold all this time has been a blast!
 
Traxtech

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Imagine if they announced inbuilt PS3 emulation or chipset like those leaks showed awhile ago, and somehow leverage pssr too to get them up to 4k.

A man can dream
 
ZehDon

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Traxtech said:
Imagine if they announced inbuilt PS3 emulation or chipset like those leaks showed awhile ago, and somehow leverage pssr too to get them up to 4k.

A man can dream
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They can emulate the PS1 and PS2 right now on your existing PS5. Sony elect to charge a monthly subscription instead. I doubt they'd hand away PS3 emulation for free.
 
gokurho

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www.neogaf.com

News - Hype - Platform - [Eurogamer]Phil Spencer on new hardware, price drops, mid-gen refreshes - and why the company won't ditch Series S.

Eurogamer bolded them. "We do very little that's going to force you to buy our console in order to play the games that we built." "When you ask about Gen 10 I can say yes, but..." "As soon as you start doing mid-gen refreshes, you've got a bunch of issues in front of developers." "You're...
www.neogaf.com www.neogaf.com
Phil Spencer: As soon as you start doing mid-gen refreshes, you've got a bunch of issues in front of developers, on what platform they target.
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Mid-gen refreshes present many issues for developers👩‍🏫🟠.
Why doesn't Sony consider developer resources :messenger_pouting:⁉️❓🐎
 
DenchDeckard

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So tempted to buy a disk drive today even though I'm on the fence about the pro.

Plus I'm having thoughts of my death stranding pro. I might hold out for a ltd edition one.

Hyped for the showcase though.
 
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Traxtech

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gokurho said:
www.neogaf.com

News - Hype - Platform - [Eurogamer]Phil Spencer on new hardware, price drops, mid-gen refreshes - and why the company won't ditch Series S.

Eurogamer bolded them. "We do very little that's going to force you to buy our console in order to play the games that we built." "When you ask about Gen 10 I can say yes, but..." "As soon as you start doing mid-gen refreshes, you've got a bunch of issues in front of developers." "You're...
www.neogaf.com www.neogaf.com

Mid-gen refreshes present many issues for developers👩‍🏫🟠.
Why doesn't Sony consider developer resources :messenger_pouting:⁉️❓🐎
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It's literally a few numbers changing in order to take advantage of the extra power... Even less for games that are coming to PC
 
Mibu no ookami

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Traxtech said:
Imagine if they announced inbuilt PS3 emulation or chipset like those leaks showed awhile ago, and somehow leverage pssr too to get them up to 4k.

A man can dream
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I don't see this happening, at least not specifically for the PS5 Pro.

It might be something they do for the 30th anniversary of PS OR they might wait until 2026 and the 10th anniversary of the PS3. Conversely we also have Ken Kutaragi giving a keynote at TGS, so who knows what Sony has in store and when.

We do know that there were rumors that they were working on it more than 2 years ago.

Generally though, I question the market value of such an endeavor. If you look at the best selling PS3 games, they're almost all playable on the PS5 in the form of a port, remaster, remake, or sequel.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is the first one missing, but it's likely to be on the next volume of Metal Gear Solid and also is likely going to be remade at some point.

The next is FF13 which is trash. Now we're down to games like MotorStorm.

I think people like the idea of PS3 emulation more than what it actually delivers.
 
ShaiKhulud1989

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Mibu no ookami said:
I think people like the idea of PS3 emulation more than what it actually delivers.
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PS3 emulation is more interesting as an ‘impossible task’ than something with commercial potential, yeah. Killzone 2 and Resistance 3 still require CPUs like 5800x and even then there’s some artifacts and glitches.
 
buenoblue

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Don't know if I'm in this time. Picked up a 4070ti couple months ago for £599(coming from a 2070).

It's been great playing new games on high settings but the best thing is being able to go back to my whole PC library of 20 years and play every game maxed out at 4k or higher.

And now most Sony games seem to be coming to PC the PS5 pro is really gonna have to wow me for me to jump in. Especially when we are probably only 3 years away from the PS6.

I'll probably get one though 😂😭😂
 
Vroadstar

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RCU005 said:
Do people really want to pay $600 or $700 just so their PS4-designed game runs at 60fps at 4K? Everybody loved Super Mario 64, but even if you run it at 240fps/8K is still an N64 game. This is what the PS5 Pro feels like right now.
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Oh, sure, because it makes total sense that upgrading to the PS5 Pro would mean losing access to all those exclusive PS5 games. right? right? 🙄
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Hawking Radiation said:
How much will it cost to build a PC to play games at 4K/60 FPS? Genuine question.
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For most recent AAA-games with state of the art visuals and you don't have anything salvageable from a previous PC and have to buy everything, easily +1400 EUR. If you want Ray Tracing make it another +400EUR.
 
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RCU005 said:
I don't understand why nobody realizes this!!!! While there have been great games this generation (99% coming from third party), ALL games have been nothing but PS4 games. There hasn't been ONE game that truly looks, plays, feels and is designed as a PS5 ONLY game.

During the PS3 gen, many games were jaw-dropping: MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, The Last of Us, etc.
During the PS4 gen they had Uncharted 4, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, TLOUS Part II, Spider-Man (among many others).

All these games were truly current gen and unthinkable about running in last gen hardware.

During PS5 there hasn't been ONE game that you look or play and say: This is truly new! Whether graphics, design, gameplay. Every single game INCLUDING THIRD PARTY, have been games that either are still released on PS4, or are still designed as PS4 games.

Those designs are evident. Remember those anime-like games that release on each console and still feel like PS2 games? (Like Neptunia and stuff like that). Every single game this gen, still feel like a better-looking PS4 game.

Do people really want to pay $600 or $700 just so their PS4-designed game runs at 60fps at 4K? Everybody loved Super Mario 64, but even if you run it at 240fps/8K is still an N64 game. This is what the PS5 Pro feels like right now.
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spiderman 2 ff16 ff rebirth astro bot??????????????????????????????????
 
TrebleShot

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Df recons there will be significant improvements to games even passively without a pro patch.

Think FF16 perf mode and wukong.
 
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