I wouldn't be surprised if he got like 55% of the vote in the next one. I expect the AKP to even get over 50% of the vote for once in the next parliamentary elections.
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Turkish Referendum |OT| ...With a Thunderous Applause
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I wouldn't be surprised if he got like 55% of the vote in the next one. I expect the AKP to even get over 50% of the vote for once in the next parliamentary elections.
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You wouldn't be saying this if Turkey was a centralized presidential system that had just voted for proportional parliamentarism on the same margin; you'd be cheering on the result. One vote is one vote is one vote; you can't change that just when you don't get your own way.
You Are Viewtiful
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Better to just ban referendums/plebiscites altogether, and just create a better system with the right checks and balances. Referendums are illiberal. They shut down debate and are a "might makes right" tactic often used by dictators to coalesce power.
Maybe from now on they should call themselves Democratic People's Republic of Turkey.
BlastProcessing
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I would be saying it. Such widespread changes being attach to a single majority vote is insane.
thanks
and I think its pretty interesting that Haribo has moved their US candy production from Turkey to the US.
Binary votes and constitution changes should be always 70 %, no matter who votes (politicians and average citizens)
Fantastapotamus
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Yeah, the page with the obituaries.
Bustanen
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Dubbedinenglish
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Another Putin in Europe
especially this should be voted on at least twice with an election in-between.
Frustrated_me
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Fuck off Kilicdaroglu.. What kinds of a fucking opposition party leader is this?
Just fuck the fuck off already, you weak pathetic fuck.
Just fuck the fuck off already, you weak pathetic fuck.
Is his title really "his excellency " or is that a fake edit as well lol
Also yeah. RIP turkey vacation, not gonna visit a country that will introduce death sentence.
It's real.I see his excellency on his wikipedia page.
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Oh boy. Politics these days are crazy :/
Funyarinpa
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In his victory speech Erdogan apparently said that there could be another referendum on the death penalty
Does he even need another referendum for that?
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Right, so what mark do you want? 66.6%?
I'm sure you agree with this too:
https://twitter.com/selingirit/status/853695556794941441
Congratulations on giving the tyrant unlimited power, and now he can execute his enemies!
Funyarinpa
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Fuck this fucking country
chromatic9
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Or, apparently not if this map is accurate
Interesting if true is how low UK and US Turkish voted for him.
Maybe its down to recent immigration in mainland Europe? I hear stuff how there's enclaves in Holland and Germany where most of the homes fly a Turkish flag. Turkish in the UK and probably US have spread out.
What helps the US with middle east muslims is the US is roughly the size of mainland Europe but only has 3 million muslim's over a long time of which some are paying more to get there. Europe has about 40 million muslims. I'm pretty sure if the US had 25-35 million muslims and actually helped out proportionally with mass immigration over a short time, they'd have problems like Europe does. Imagine if Europe only had 3 million muslims over half a decade. I'm sure there'd be a lot less trouble and spread out integration.
And_Gignac
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Turkey going the Iran route. A FUCKING disaster for a beautiful, historically relevant country. This is so sad.
Funyarinpa
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Fuck this fucking country and fuck every single buffoon who voted for these pieces of trash. Fuck.
I'm not even surprised Erdogen would pull this.
RoadHazard
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The world sure is fucking crazy. First the British vote themselves out of the EU, then the Americans make a fascist their president, and now the Turkish vote to become a dictatorship. The fuck is wrong with you people? This is not going to be a good thing for you.
Not too many years ago Turkey was a country I'd gladly visit (and I have). Now? Fuck that. And Turkey can kiss that EU membership they so desire a long sweet goodbye (which was already the case, but this sure doesn't improve their chances).
EDIT: My sympathies to all sane people living there who didn't want this, of course.
Not too many years ago Turkey was a country I'd gladly visit (and I have). Now? Fuck that. And Turkey can kiss that EU membership they so desire a long sweet goodbye (which was already the case, but this sure doesn't improve their chances).
EDIT: My sympathies to all sane people living there who didn't want this, of course.
His Majesty
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Or, apparently not if this map is accurate
Seems to be a pretty accurate map. Results so far for YES camp:
- Belgium: 77%
- The Netherlands: 70%
- France: 65%
- Germany: 63%
- United Kingdom: 21%
- United States: 17%
- Spain: 13%
http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/buitenland/1.2953612
Yeah, nothing shady to see people.
Fucking hell, what a sad day.
I absolutely hope I am wrong, but I don't see a bright future ahead for Turkey...
This completely baffles me. Why do so many people eligible for voting outside of Turkey vote for this guy? You'd think an outside perspective would make some of the more worrying signs more clear.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Literally admitting electoral fraud.
Well Erdogen is going to adopt the death penalty, which the EU forbids.
So...I guess the EU will adopt the death penalty, because I can't see them stepping up to the plate and blocking Turkey.
RoadHazard
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What do you mean? There's no fucking chance in hell Turkey is getting in now, especially if they actually get the death penalty going. If they are still let in, we can shut the EU down. But it won't happen.
I assume he was being sarcastic.
Well now he wants another referendum for the death penalty. More excitement to come.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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The division in support between countries is interesting.
Muffin1611
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How high was voter turnout in these countries though? Can't imagine that it was really high.
I can't see the EU not adhering to his whims. He has a lot of control over the flow of refugees into Europe. If they deny Turkey into the EU, he opens the floodgates on a matter Europe already can't handle. I'm not saying that wouldn't happen if he was in the EU, either, btw.
Canadian results are in:
73% voted NO
27% voted YES
73% voted NO
27% voted YES
Ease up on the hyperbole, there isn't any radical Islamic revolution happening in Turkey lol
Facism
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it's nice that you're having fun with this tragedy.
Golden_Pigeon
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Erdogan said that if the referendum pass, he will make another one about following or not the process to integrate EU. Turks are not stupids and many understood very well that EU membership would never happens anyways.
In any way, congratulation Turkey, let's hope for the best.
EDIT: it's funny to see people comparing this with Khomeini takeover in 79. Erdogan still calling himself a partisan of secularism and Ataturk. It's very unlikely that the fundamental tenets of the Turkish republic will change anytime soon.
Does that happen before or after the EU appoints him as president for live of the union?
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