Airola
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Oh god, I'm having a battle against curiosity!
Already doing some "hovering" over the spoilertags to see a word here and there from the next episode. Haven't yet dared to hover on the spoilers beyond that episode.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Oh god, I'm having a battle against curiosity!
Already doing some "hovering" over the spoilertags to see a word here and there from the next episode. Haven't yet dared to hover on the spoilers beyond that episode.
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ElectricBlanketFire
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Unless you speak Russian you'll be okay (unless you move further down the thread).
Btw, have we've seen anyone that could be Linda? Like lol if we're gonna be introduced to someone last minute. Only remember a brief mention about her.
Good episode but man this stop and go is maddeningly hilarious at times. This editing to have no sense of timeframing is crazy as well. Feels like that James scene could have been done episodes ago.
Good episode but man this stop and go is maddeningly hilarious at times. This editing to have no sense of timeframing is crazy as well. Feels like that James scene could have been done episodes ago.
Airola
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I've been thinking about the same thing for a while now.
What if the real Sarah is in the same house, dead or alive.
The long scene with Sarah watching the tv loop... she goes twice away from the room, maybe to do something to Sarah.
Airola
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I mean the already translated spoilers.
BenjaminBirdie
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just got serious chills and am also nauseous with fear
what if the supermarket sarah was the real one
i'm like practically crying
this poor fucking family
Jesus.
Vyse The Legend
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If she's being manipulated, I'd argue it's in a "do what I say or never see the real Coop again" sense.
However, if we entertain the doppelganger possibility, it's possible on that famous night, which Diane refuses to discuss, Mr. C took her into the Lodge and emerged with her doppelganger. The real Diane could still be there.
EdibleExplosives
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What if all the Roadhouse scenes are actually just Audrey listening to the radio in her hospital room whilst in the coma, that's why all the performances sound like studio recordings.
And now you're just a stranger's dream
/lynched
And now you're just a stranger's dream
/lynched
BenjaminBirdie
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i think i'm gonna regret buying that shirt
Cripplegate
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I think Diane did believe it was Cooper, at least at first, which is why she hates Cooper now. I don't think she knows about doppelgangers.
Mr. C continues the charade that he is the real Dale Cooper even when speaking to Diane in Episode 7.
My working theory at the moment is that Mr. C preyed on Diane and the trust she had with Cooper, used that previous relationship to his advantage. Mr. C learns about Janey through Diane, who now works for Mr. C under some form of threat (and at this point I think Diane is beginning to understand that Mr. C is not the real Cooper). The bigger question mark is Janey, and the degree of her complicity, but I still think Dougie's family is innocent. They've been roped into this somehow without understanding what is really going on.
No, but we've met her husband, apparently (the guy that gets a ride into town with Carl). If this is indeed "the" Linda, she is a war veteran living in the trailer park.
Fluffernutter Pancake
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What if Episodes 15 AND 16 are both 70 min long, and episodes 17 and 18 are 90 minutes each................
Airola
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No, actually the part where he walks into the office is from Fire Walk With Me and the part where he says the thing is from Missing Pieces.
From Missing Pieces:
From Season 3:
In the movie he looks straight at Cooper during the "who do you think this is there" line, while in both Missing Pieces and in Season 3 he looks also at Gordon.
It's the same exact scene but with a voice-over.
But it's true that the first part when he walks in is from the actual movie.
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it seems that Sarah is basically possessed. She kind of snaps in and out of being herself as it suits the controlling entity.
Her reaction after the scumbag in the bar gets his seems one of genuine horror, but as soon as she starts being quizzed by the bar-tender it snaps back into control and she gets sneering and hostile again.
From the "real" Sarah's perspective this would likely appear to be blackouts or cases of "lost time", which would explain her freaking out in the store as the unexpected change in the jerky stand would seem like a similar thing. Which is why she's in such a hurry to get out of there.
Consider as well all the misfortune she's suffered at the hands of the Lodge denizens, that this thing could delight in tormenting her...
Her reaction after the scumbag in the bar gets his seems one of genuine horror, but as soon as she starts being quizzed by the bar-tender it snaps back into control and she gets sneering and hostile again.
From the "real" Sarah's perspective this would likely appear to be blackouts or cases of "lost time", which would explain her freaking out in the store as the unexpected change in the jerky stand would seem like a similar thing. Which is why she's in such a hurry to get out of there.
Consider as well all the misfortune she's suffered at the hands of the Lodge denizens, that this thing could delight in tormenting her...
I can't buy into this doppelgangers run amok theory personally. I don't think it's a mistake that the only doppelganger we've seen is Mr. C . He is completely emotionless at all times, has those weird black eyes, and the whole 'yerv' thing in the prison scene. He's like an alien playing at being human. I see none of that in Diane or Sarah for the most part. Sarah is a little more complicated if the theory was she was doppelganger'd after she went home from the store, because when Hawk comes calling and then later in the bar, she very much is emotionless and cold like Mr. C. Diane though, I think is either just being manipulated or is maybe not the good person we want to believe she is, but everything points to her still being human.
No, actually the part where he walks into the office is from Fire Walk With Me and the part where he says the thing is from Missing Pieces.
From Missing Pieces:
From Season 3:
In the movie he looks straight at Cooper during the "who do you think this is there" line, while in both Missing Pieces and in Season 3 he looks also at Gordon.
It's the same exact scene but with a voice-over.
But it's true that the first part when he walks in is from the actual movie.
Yeah, it's definitely TMP version. Cole's dialog is slightly different as well from what I remember. FWWM he responds to Cooper "I know, Coop" and TMP it's "I know Coop. Stand fast!"
EdibleExplosives
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Starting to wonder if that theory about all the roadhouse scenes taking place during one night could have some credence to it. Unless of course someone has already debunked it, it's hard to keep up with all the speculation.
Fluffernutter Pancake
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That would mean that James is a studio artist being broadcast with the likes of Nine Inch Nails..................
Poimandres
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Great episode. It's all coming together nicely!
Sarah is downright frightening. I'm kind of desensitized to most horror films etc, but some of the imagery in this show really gets under my skin.
Sarah is downright frightening. I'm kind of desensitized to most horror films etc, but some of the imagery in this show really gets under my skin.
Vyse The Legend
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That would mean that James is a studio artist being broadcast with the likes of Nine Inch Nails..................
Lynch is truly a master of psychological horror.
That description for Part 18 confuses the fuck out of me. Everything else seems good though.
Corpsepyre
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Please don't do this to me.
mariachi507
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The next 20 days are going to be long.
I'm not that good of a person, I don't deserve such things.
I'm not that good of a person, I don't deserve such things.
Corpsepyre
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So, that Bri'ish guy with James is definitely going to arm wrestle evil Cooper and fuck him over, right ? He has to. His glove is rubber, and that doesn't conduct electricity. Must be important.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Wait, the next episode is 70 minutes long for real?
Nope, he is going to die tragically and/or comically and bequeath the glove and all of its awesome might to James who will use it to save everyone.
James was always cool and the greatest hero of them all.
plagiarize
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It's only scheduled to be on for one hour.
ElectricBlanketFire
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So no then?
plagiarize
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Unless you think Showtime would put Ray Donovan on 10 minutes late, it's not 70 minutes long.
ElectricBlanketFire
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What if I WANT to think that?
ZombieSupaStar
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im thinking this or for some reason they didnt get permission for his voice?
I still think maybe she thinks she's working with Jeffries (whether he's the real Jeffries or not).
ZombieSupaStar
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Jeffries voice comparison
Man that is so damn close if I didn't know id say it was him / different take. Kudos to the soundalike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRYt3Y_kTY
Man that is so damn close if I didn't know id say it was him / different take. Kudos to the soundalike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRYt3Y_kTY
Yup, it's clearly said more quickly. But I have no clue why.
Gordon even says "I'm just now remembering that" or something like that, as if it didn't happen until he dreamed it..
plagiarize
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To Gordon and Albert at the time it was just some crazy nonsense. It makes sense it wouldn't instantly come to mind until the suggestion of two Coops comes up.
"Suffered a few bumps on the old noggin there eh Philip?" Or whatever the line is.
That would mean that James is a studio artist being broadcast with the likes of Nine Inch Nails..................
lmfao
plagiarize
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Any 'just a dream' crap will be crap. I don't think that's the sort of thing Lynch would be so literal about though. Are parts of Lost Highway just a dream? Maybe? Is the majority of Mulholland Drive a dream? Probably.
But you can't exactly say for sure.
Vyse The Legend
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We had this debate a while back, and us sane folks agreed that "it's all a dream" trope is tired AF and incredibly rote.
I don't think Lynch and Frost would pull that shit, but hypothetically if they did, I would not be amused. It probably wouldn't ruin the season for me, but it sure would put a damper on it.
LOST was not a dream/purgatory. (spoiler LOST all seasons)
Less than half of the last season was a "waiting room" for the afterlife. Everything else, including every single scene on the Island, was real.
Lasthope106
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I'm getting to the point where this show might not be for me. In a single episode Game of Thrones has entertained me more than the 14 episodes this show has so far. Like wtf Lynch. You can't throw random shit and then at the end say "this is how it all connects together."
This is not art. This is a bunch of disjointed ideas. And just because Lynch is considered a master surrealist he doesn't get a free pass.
This is my rant and my opinion.
This is not art. This is a bunch of disjointed ideas. And just because Lynch is considered a master surrealist he doesn't get a free pass.
This is my rant and my opinion.
Ah okay I guess. Sounds like its the same deal with modern Battlestar Galatica where they pull out that last minute story where
Cylons/Colonists became early humans and it was simply another cycle. Oh and Starbuck was an angel or something.
no one is forcing you to watch it, if you're not enjoying with it and can't engage with it stop watching.
Lasthope106
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I didn't ask for your approval. I'm sharing my reaction.
plagiarize
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This is not a post on neogaf.
You can't just throw random words together and claim it forms an opinion.
Sorry that some people like some art you don't and that it isn't enough for you to have a contrary opinion to them.
Edit: seriously, though how is it not art, good, bad or indifferent?
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