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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

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Omikaru

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I don't get some people. LibDems finally get a say, a real say, and even though the conditions aren't ideal, we can temper Tory savagery here.

I know you guys are angry, but this is the best outcome of a bad situation. Labour are obviously more interested in power than they are in acting in the national interest. As are the Tories, but at least they're in a position to assume power.

Honestly, what would you guys rather? Up to five (though probably less than one) more years without Tory rule, only to endure a landslide at the next election? And whatever happened, the LibDems would suffer for it.
 
Empty said:
Need a version of the reagonomics picture except with that picture and "We told them we'd changed :lol"

camlolmotivator.jpg
 

Chinner

Banned
J Tourettes said:
Or resurrect the old political thread if you're feeling lazy.
Nah. deseves a new thread.

might take awwhile

my e d c buttons dont work (have to usee a virtual keyboard for them).

i'll do it tomorrow
 

Dambrosi

Banned
FuturusX said:
Boulton is a corporate hack. So I'm sure that's pure fiction. But okay I'll play along... who gets to be Marilyn Monroe?
Clegg better get used to wearing white and standing over air vents.

EDIT: Subliminal, could you use a smaller Sun image, please? My monitor's about to throw up :lol
 
Subliminal said:
I love the independent, Frontpages with just a picture are amazing
I agree that going from the front pages that've been posted in this thread, the format and styling of the Independent is very nice. The content seems to be (at first glance) less slanderous than many other papers.
 
You're mental if you think this coalition is a bad thing. I can't believe the responses I'm reading on Facebook and Twitter. I believe in Liberal Democrat policies, I voted Liberal Democrat, they came a clear third place, and now they have a substantial say in the next government. I win?
 
Linkified said:
Yes.

But this ConLib alliance is good but it seems they got a bit too good of a deal seen as they did come third.

NOBODY WON.

but I can see you're quite upset about David Cameron not being Prime Min..oh shit!!
 
Subliminal said:

So there I was...browsing NeoGAF, when the front pages of the papaers came up, and I was just dreading the Murdoch triumph, but then someone had posted it in MASSIVE size...I was really sad, yeah...And then I just CHUNDERED EVERYWHERE! Been on the lash on election night you know darling...
 

Varion

Member
Confirmed on BBC:

- Libs scrapped mansions tax, and the Conservatives scrapped plans on inheritance tax.
- Trident staying, but Conservatives will scrutinise it.
- Marriage tax breaks to go through most likely - but Lib Dems won't vote for it, they'll abstain.
- No further transfer of powers to Europe without a referendum.
- Not joining Euro this parliament.
- Fixed term 5 year parliaments.
- No rise in national insurance.

Also emergency budget within 50 days.
 
defel1111 said:
Unlike many people on here i dont think 2012 has come 2 years earlier than predicted and Im looking forward to how this parliament works.


Ditto, and it's labours own fucking fault. They just couldn't help themselves pissing money down the drain and diddling in social engineering wankery. They won't learn though, not with that millaband scrote.
 

Zenith

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2256 Liam Fox is confirmed as defence secretary.

He is head and shoulders the most right-wing front bencher and a born-again christian. Thank god our nuclear deterrent can't work without american help.

Sir Fragula said:
it's a betrayal, nothing more. Millions of Lib Dem voters didn't expect to see a coallition with the fucking toffs on the table. Fuck it, Nick Clegg has destroyed the Liberal Democrat party.

Lib Dems are now in the greatest position to influence policy in a 100 years and it's a "betrayl"? Were you under the impression that Cameron wouldn't get into number 10 without them? Stupid delusional class war morons.
 
Varion said:
Confirmed on BBC:

- Libs scrapped mansions tax, and the Conservatives scrapped plans on inheritance tax.
- Trident staying, but Conservatives will scrutinise it.
- Marriage tax breaks to go through most likely - but Lib Dems won't vote for it, they'll abstain.
- No further transfer of powers to Europe without a referendum.
- Not joining Euro this parliament.
- Fixed term 5 year parliaments.

Also emergency budget within 50 days.

How're fixed term parliaments going to work? If people vote no confidence and block everything, how the fuck can one keep functioning?

Edit: I will now vote Labour at the next election. I love being a floater.
 

Scum

Junior Member
Dark Machine said:
How're fixed term parliaments going to work? If people vote no confidence and block everything, how the fuck can one keep functioning?

That's probably something Labour will be hoping for! :lol
 

Chinner

Banned
Varion said:
Confirmed on BBC:

- Libs scrapped mansions tax, and the Conservatives scrapped plans on inheritance tax.
- Trident staying, but Conservatives will scrutinise it.
- Marriage tax breaks to go through most likely - but Lib Dems won't vote for it, they'll abstain.
- No further transfer of powers to Europe without a referendum.
- Not joining Euro this parliament.
- Fixed term 5 year parliaments.
- No rise in national insurance.

Also emergency budget within 50 days.
10k threshold introduced gradually.
 

Varion

Member
"Obama tells Cameron he's still committed to a 'special relationship' between the US and UK"

... I thought the special relationship died when Obama came into office? :lol
 
Varion said:
Confirmed on BBC:

- Libs scrapped mansions tax, and the Conservatives scrapped plans on inheritance tax.
- Trident staying, but Conservatives will scrutinise it.
- Marriage tax breaks to go through most likely - but Lib Dems won't vote for it, they'll abstain.
- No further transfer of powers to Europe without a referendum.
- Not joining Euro this parliament.
- Fixed term 5 year parliaments.
- No rise in national insurance.

Also emergency budget within 50 days.

Being an expert on International Security, and knowing Conservatives lines..This is going to be the most horrid fake scrutiny in political history
 

Chinner

Banned
BREAKING NEWS FROM THE GUARDIAN:
11.12pm: The Tories have been briefing on details of the coalition. One of the most remarkable is that there will be a commitment to hold the next election on the first Thursday in May 2005 (that's May 7).
Time machine introduced into British Politics!
 
Varion said:
"Obama tells Cameron he's still committed to a 'special relationship' between the US and UK"

... I thought the special relationship died when Obama came into office? :lol
They probably need a favour soon.
 

Varion

Member
Chinner said:
BREAKING NEWS FROM THE GUARDIAN:
11.12pm: The Tories have been briefing on details of the coalition. One of the most remarkable is that there will be a commitment to hold the next election on the first Thursday in May 2005 (that's May 7).
Time machine introduced into British Politics!
:lol :lol
 
Zenith said:
Lib Dems are now in the greatest position to influence policy in a 100 years and it's a "betrayl"? Were you under the impression that Cameron wouldn't get into number 10 without them? Stupid delusional class war morons.
I don't think people understand how coalition formation works. It's not as if there's this rule that there's a left block and a right block, and the one that get 50+% gets to govern. You have to face the political reality that there are winners and losers, that there's only so many options available. Especially in the UK, which has basically only 3 parties you can shuffle around with. That's very little, and effectively makes for only 3 possible coalitions. And I don't see the Tories working with Labour. Which makes for only 2 coalitions. And that the Lib Dems and Labour have most in common is only one of the many factors that decide on coalition formation.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
From the BBC

BBC said:
23:23 Details of the Tory-Lib Dem deal emerge. The Lib Dems have agreed to drop plans for a "mansion tax", while the Conservatives have ditched their pledge to raise the inheritance tax threshold to £1m. The new administration will scrap Labour's planned rise in National Insurance but some of the benefits will go to reducing income tax thresholds for lower earners.

I guess - or rather I really hope - that they mean to increase the thresholds?
 

elseanio

Member
So Tories for 4 years, no chance of another vote in a year or whatever? Not really keeping up with how this all works out.

It's fair to say my family were poor under the last Tory reign.. bad times ahead?
 
killer_clank said:
The fixed terms are 5 years. FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I support fixed terms, but I think it should be four years, not five. Only two chances to change a government per decade? First bad policy I've heard from the Lib-Cons pact. I wonder which side it was that wanted five instead of four.
 

Burai

shitonmychest57
Chinner said:
BREAKING NEWS FROM THE GUARDIAN:

Time machine introduced into British Politics!

This is why you don't activate the Queen this late in the day. The corgis have gone nuclear.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Laura Lovelyberg just said the Lib Dems will be getting:

5 cabinet positions
20 seats in government overall
 

Shanadeus

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elseanio said:
So Tories for 4 years, no chance of another vote in a year or whatever? Not really keeping up with how this all works out.

It's fair to say my family were poor under the last Tory reign.. bad times ahead?
5 years.

5 years.
 

Varion

Member
More from the BBC:

- Rise on capital gains tax not related to business in order to increase funds for raising the income tax threshold.
- Cap on non-EU immigrants agreed.
- Immigrant amnesty as good as gone.
- Lib Dems will be getting 20 posts in government - 5 of which are in cabinet.
- Commitment to carry on with Conservative policy of introducing free schools.
 
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