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UK/R.O.I GAF - Thread of geopolitical confusion
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Hot Coldman
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CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Oh yeah. I remember that. Channel 5 do some weird documentaries.
I love that I know which one you're on about.
J Tourettes
Banned
Any houseparty of mine always has these two on at some point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcv3v6XfEvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVj1zqbWpU&ob=av3n
Edit: Oh and Toca's Miracle original AND 2008 remix, I don't discriminate as both songs are tied into cracking memories.
J Tourettes
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StealthGoblin
Banned
What job is the whistle for then?
I grabbed myself a new one recently. 6k (ish) golden handshake.
A marketing firm near Leeds/Bradford.
May the lord have mercy on my soul.
It's a multi-national though, with offices in LA/NYC/Sydney, so hopefully I could get away occasionally.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Sounds like a good solid job. Is it a job area you have worked in before?
I think in my head that I'd be able to do marketing, but in reality I'd suck. There a lot of things people just don't consider and overlook when promoting products and services.
I've never had a proper 'career' job before, just coming out of uni in summer.
Yeah, it's more market research than marketing. I'd be on the analytic side because I'm pretty handy with quantitative stats and modelling.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Nice. You are working in the aspect of the business that people overlook. Demographics, uptake rates etc. Is it well paid/have scope to grow into a well paid job?
Don't know the exact specifics of the pay yet (gonna sort it out with em' on Tuesday) but great scope for growth which is what's important.
I'll put the kettle on, anybody want some TEA.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Nice. Well done fella.
Its such an amazing feeling to get an actual salary when you come out of Uni education. No more sodding around. How does the missus feel about the job? Must be over the moon really.
haha, no I went in with the express assurance that I'd be put to use, they seemed really impressed, not many people specialise in Quants in Sociology.
Yeah she's happy, she's getting a lot of good vibes from companies too, few interviews in the next few weeks.
It's likely we'll be living in Otley or Menston for a while which isn't what we want, but you've got to compromise.
Is it like Mad Men but more northern.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
All the cynicism, none of the sex appeal. Or excitement. Or creativity.
So really, just the cynicism.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Codgu5w_7PECHEEZMO;35913868 said:
snoopeasystreet
Member
whom of my GMT buddies are u right now? I expect stories why.
This was around the time I went to bed last night.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
I'm glad you've got the job but have you ever felt you're moving too fast? Straight from school, to college, to uni and then to a career. I had an opportunity at a similar career job when I graduated last year but kind of freaked at the prospect of being settled at 21.
For the past year i've done some simple work (retail), volunteering and a bit of travelling. Recently i've been given another shot at a career job but feel those feelings I felt last year. I thought I might have been ready over the past year but I guess I haven't experienced enough.
Just curious what others feel in this situation.
electricshake
Member
Yeh definitely. I graduated in 2008 and wasn't ready to get a real job. Also I hated what I did. So I went back to uni. Due to graduate next year (and still shitting a brick about it!)
StealthGoblin
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For me it was a case of actually making a proper start. My parents have done exceptionally well to put me through essentially three degrees and my brother part way through his without any extreme financial aide, which is decent considering our less than affluent backgrounds.
The career I'm in (teaching) gives me the opportunity to do all of the travelling and exploring during the year so I'm comfortable to that regard. I didn't want to mooch off of my parents or the government any longer than I needed to.
If you don't have a financial nest egg or Mum and Dad to fund you, I think getting straight into a career is a wise idea. These are uncertain financial times and I think its best that young people get on the career/property ladder as soon as possible because we are competing with those who already are in possession of those things. . .and the next batch of young people coming up behind us.
Eventually I want to do a Doctorate within the field of education and possibly study History or Philosophy through the open University. Depends on where I am with life.
As someone who plans to go into teaching once I graduate, how do you feel about going into teaching straight out of university? Im 22 now, but I feel like I need a few years doing other things (travelling, working professionally) before I go into teaching. When I think about the bad teachers I had at school they were invariably the younger ones (early to mid-twenties) and Im a bit cautious about falling into that trap. The other thing that is putting me of teaching is that once I graduate Ill have about £18,000 debt and after my masters next year Ill have around $40,000 debt. I could pay that off very quickly if I work in the private sector but I wouldnt feel comfortable on a teacher's salary.
StealthGoblin
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Well, I'll give you the breakdown of what I did.
- Obtained a degree in Pharmacology.
- During my 'year out' I worked as a teaching assistant to hone my skills. (This comes in important further down the line).
- Did my PGCE (Primary).
- Obtained my Masters
- Got a job.
Because of my experience (and other factors such as my sex and specialisms), I was able to enter the profession at a much higher starting wage.
Basically, there are six wage levels (M levels). The vast majority of NQT's start of at M1. Because of the factors mentioned above, I was able to negotiate a stronger starting position of M3 (Which was essentially an extra 4.5k a year) as well as an 'early start' bonus, which is basically a golden handshake without it technically being called that. That was 6k. My take home wages for my first year in teaching were approximately £32,206. I was 23.
Most people won't be in my position.
My advice is to get straight into teaching. You can still travel. As teachers we get a decent enough window to see the world. Once you are organised and have your assessment technique, files, handovers etc sorted, then you'll start to see larger windows of escape emerge, particularly around Easter. As an NQT, you'll likely only get a 4 week window in the summer holidays.
As a young teacher you are at the disadvantage of a new Curriculum being slapped down on us soon. This has broader implications than most people think. For example, in the Primary domain, the entire Literacy and Numeracy strategies will have to be rewritten. Across secondary this will mean massive changes to the texts that are studied, the depth they are studied to and the questioning in exams.
My family work in teaching and I can tell you that headteachers don't tent to look fondly upon NQT's that have taken a year out away from teaching. Teaching moves incredibly fast and we are bombarded by initiatives. You'll be expected to hit the ground running and start making a difference.
I came away from student life with debts of around £32k. I'm managing on my wages and I think I'd be able to manage on M1. The first 2-3 years of your life as a teacher will mean you'll get few opportunities to splash the cash anyway because of the demands of the job.
The job process for teaching is tough enough as it is without having to punch your way out of a corner by being a latecomer. Teaching pools and the interview process are tough. I had my first job secured 6 months before I graduated. Its fierce.
All of that sounds daunting, but provided you are prepared - you can earn enough money to get by (and then some), enjoy some great exploring/travelling and grow in a professional capacity very quickly.
If you are committed enough, you can become a subject co-ordinator very quickly. I'm ICT co-ordinator and get an extra added onto my wage packet for sorting that. Math's co-ordinator at a school my mother works at is on 55k before add ons.
If you wouldn't mind sharing a bit more detail as to your circumstances, I could help point you down a decent enough route.
No, but seriously, I've not got much in the way of savings (about £1500) and need to get going sharpish. My mum and dad don't fund anything of mine so I'm on my own with stuff, which is something I'm quite proud of.
J Tourettes
Banned
If I could change some of my younger decisions, I wouldn't have left home at 18 as I would've saved up to go travelling for at least a year (obviously would work while travelling), come back and save for a deposit for a few years.
Saving for a deposit while privately renting in London is hard work.
Saving for a deposit while privately renting in London is hard work.
Yeah you're right, London is shit
J Tourettes
Banned
Aye but it could be worse. I could be about to live in Otley or Menston
Damn right. And I'm now a member!
Indian curry sauce man, its not the same sauce your thinking about.
This stuff has leaves n shit in it, tasty stuff.
looks like that a little.
pfft. Just a few leaves?
I have branches in my curry. I stuck a whole bush in there once.
Thanks for such a great reply. Ill be studying for an Masters in Economics at Warwick next year so Ive got some time to think things over.
Last year I made a beetroot and chicken curry. Had this amazing colour and tasted amazing:
No it was because Plywood started using that exact avatar even though he told me to use it, So I changed it because it would make me look like a dick.
Hot Coldman
Banned
It's for the best, Salv. You don't control your avatar, not really. Post enough, and it's out of your hands. That's why Suairyu will forever be a duck, and I'll forever be a weird Knuckles face.
Pretty much this. People who change their avatars frequently are non-entities to me.
You're early enough in your GAF career that if you made a change now and stuck to it you'd probably pull it off, but think carefully before you do. I like your smug cheerleader-looking face right now.
i miss the days when the killers dominated the radio.. they were happy summer times :0
edit guys.
Mobile networks.. I'm stuck on orange right now till i get my iphone unlocked.. I miss 3 so much
with 3 if you top up 15 smackers you get unlimited internet, 300 minutes call time and 3000 texes.
with orange i get 300 texes, no call time and 250 meg internet.
FUCK MY LIFE.
edit guys.
Mobile networks.. I'm stuck on orange right now till i get my iphone unlocked.. I miss 3 so much
with 3 if you top up 15 smackers you get unlimited internet, 300 minutes call time and 3000 texes.
with orange i get 300 texes, no call time and 250 meg internet.
FUCK MY LIFE.
I find going to the pictures to cheesy. To many family's, kids, tweens. Fuck that shit. Also on the way out you hear people saying to there friends "what did you think of the film" i cringe like fuck.
Makes me so uncomfortable.
wat
I could understand if you were talking about going to a cinemaplex in the states and having to deal with fucktards, but what's wrong with overhearing "what did you think?" ?
Might not be unlimited for too much longer as some people have been tethering the shit out of Giffgaff's data.
Oh, and it's 250 minutes too for a tenner not 100
Awesome network btw, love being with them.Might be a bit scabby but if you want a referral to Giffgaff Kentpaul I can send you one, you'll get £5 credit when you activate the SIM (which if you stick another £5 towards you'll be able to buy the £10 goodybag) and I'll get 500 points from them which I'll stick towards more credit probably.
PM me if you fancy it dude!
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