You don't see many people using it because it takes some semblance of skill, and people are lazy.
Judgment Cut is a poor zoning tool, the hit box isn't that big. It's best use is to keep Vergil's block string safer but any block string involving Judgment Cut is not safe and can be blown up. Dormammu in particular has a great answer to this thanks to his Liberation spells. There is a 3 frame gap in the string where you can activate your art and it will come out no matter what.
A 3 frame gap is pretty hard to make good on. Judgment Cut is a poor zoning tool - no argument from me on that.
You can ask any Wesker player about this... any character with a small hit box moving forward by passes his gun whether he is standing and shooting or if he's jumping and shooting. He can't deal with pressure that well against these characters because his counters are ass, he has no good reversal move and his best option is to just stick out a 5 frame jab hoping it trades or something.
ASSISTS. This is so key. You keep treating Wesker like he doesn't have a team backing him that makes little things like this completely insignificant.
Wesker needs assists to deal with these types of characters and that's why he is formidable. Smart team composition takes care of Wesker's weaknesses. It's why people are hyping up Wesker + Strider, Strider covers the portion of the screen that Wesker can't and he gets a combo off of it for free.
Everyone needs assists to deal with everything unless your name is Dante. That's not an argument for a weakness for Wesker.
I've nearly beaten people who have played the game since vanilla using Wesker alone after getting my other two characters blown up. And I've spent less than an hour of total play time across both games. Wesker is that good. Easy combos, hits hard and is so fast with ambiguous style of play.
And I agree with Vergil being unsafe. I think he's an offensive powerhouse, probably one of the best in the game but he dies too fast and ton of his moves leaves him open if blocked or at a certain range. Still going to use him however.
It's funny, because the Bradygames guide describes Vergil as being incredibly safe. Maybe more people should be picking that thing up...
Probably playing against terrible Vergil players who can't hit confirm or whiff 3/4th screen normals or don't use Round Trip. Derp Vergil players are the easiest thing to beat short of derp Sentinel players. Smart Vergil players on the other hand.... well they are the ones winning stuff with him. Also derp usage of Vergil's Helm Breaker is surprisingly harder to deal with than most people think.
Helm Breaker is +0 on block it seems. -_-
And Karst wasn't saying he was a safe character in fact he said that he isn't going to complain about him until he knows more about him. Which is fair and thus I am giving him information and weaknesses on the character.
I honestly don't think a Vergil has killed my Dormammu outside of my first few days of learning. I am still learning the matchup with Firebrand though. That little guy has a lot of problems in this game thanks to a few poor design decisions...
So how is Phoenix Wright? Viable at all?
He takes work and a team built around him. Thus, people are calling him bad. All I ever see is people jump around and throw out Objection bubbles like getting into Turnabout is the most important thing ever, when he's really good solo just in Courtroom mode with the evidence.
So, any verdict on how Morrigan is doing?
The air-dash nerf did hurt her, but how much? I used to like playing her in TvC and MvC3, and as far as I can tell, she's still basically Morrigan, even if I'm way too rusty with her now. Tried her out a bit in Training and Arcade, which, I know, isn't real fighting, but I see Astral Visioned meter drain Soul Fists as being really annoying to fight. Yeah, slow startup, and it can be blocked, but that's also kind of the point. When that fireball is out, you need to respect it. So it's not just to drain the opponent you send it out, it's also to make the opponent react to it.
I think Morrigan is fine. By "fine", I mean that if you could tolerate using her in Vanilla, you should still like her now, because she's better. She's still not a good character.
Shit man this is hard to say so I'm just gonna put it out there...I may have to stop playing.
I've barely had time to force any gaming in on UMVC3 or anything else since launch day nearly two weeks ago. How much have I gamed since then? Likely less than 8 hours in two weeks.
I've got digital paintings to finish for my portfolio, I got keyframing coming up for an animation of an original fighting game character I've designed doing a combo exhibition, I've got weeks worth of cleanup to do on that and tweening once its done, and coloring and digital light & shadow to do afterwards alongside of any ADR work needed for the animation itself. After that I got months of storyboarding, modeling, rigging, texturing, lighting, and shooting for a final reel that I'll need to have finished before October next year that'll be using maya,zbrush,photoshop, soundbooth and a couple of facial animation programs alongside of after effects.
...and it all needs done in between fulltime college reading/assignments and my fulltime job.
This is kind of why my posts have slowed down towards these last weeks too. Hell, I don't even have time to keep up with the thread or watch anystreams for more than a minute or two at a time. I don't even know who is using what teams anymore on the tourney circuit. At least all the time spent studying the meta game has taught me what I need to know and practice when there is time, but frankly I have less time than I need to finish these projects as is and theres no time to grind out the skill I'm needing for something like this just yet. I can't even keep up with this thread anymore. I'll likely have to just pick it up again in a year when I'm free.
I'll try to pop in from time to time to check up and see how stuff is playing out, but from here on I'm likely going to become pretty distant as I'll be way to busy trying to be a one man studio. Wish me luck fighting-GAF. If I do as well as I'm trying to there is a good chance I'll end up at a studio in a year in the industry thats worth something. It'd be the shit if it was Capcom...here's hoping.
See you around guys. GGS.
Focus on what's important. We'll be here sir - ciao.
I feel the same... resets seem limited to characters like zero and X-23. No way I can 1 shot kill anyone whit these two... Most of the time I have to tag wesker 4-5 times before I can off him. Either my combos suck or I have pitiful damage potential.
Zero can 1-shot characters, it just takes work. SRK had some 1 million damage combos with him recently.
